STOP LYING ABOUT IT!
By Will Kinney
Why do so many Christians today continue to LIE about what they really believe about “the Bible”? Actually, more and more of them are beginning to be more honest about their beliefs and are beginning to admit that they do not believe “The Bible IS the inerrant words of God”.
See the documented facts for this here: “The Bible is NOT the infallible words of God” -
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God is a God of truth and He cannot lie (Titus 1:2) and we His people are supposed to speak truth one with another. “Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: (Eph. 4:25)
God says in His word - “Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight.” Proverbs 12:22
God’s word also tells us that the last days will be characterized by LYING. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (Yea, hath God said...?) SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY...” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
If you go to almost any Christian website or Church home page they tell you what they supposedly believe about “The Bible”. You will usually read words to the effect of “We believe the Bible IS the inerrant and infallible word of God.” Notice their use of a present tense verb “is” as though it were something that EXISTS now. However, if you press them about it, you soon come to find out they are not talking about any real or tangible “hold it in your hands, read and believe every word is true” type of Bible. No, they don’t really believe such a thing exists. Then they begin their backtracking, Double-Speak Dance by saying something like “Oh well, only the originals ARE inspired and inerrant.” Well, my Christian friend, there ARE no originals and everybody knows it.
Then they come up with a really lame and absurd statement like the one found in the well known Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy.
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“Translations of Scripture ARE the Word of God to the extent that they faithfully represent the original.” Pious sounding statements like this are absurdly hypocritical on several levels.
First of all, they have never seen a single word of these originals a day in their lives and the originals never did make up a 66 books in one volume Bible to begin with. Secondly, it is absurd to affirm that "translations are the Word of God to the extent that they faithfully represent the original", when they HAVE no original to compare ANY translation to! So how could they possibly know if what they have come up with at their Bible of the Month Club “represents the original” or not?
They try to give you the impression that they have “the originals” or a copy of them right there in front of them and they’re looking to see if their “late$t and be$t ver$ion” matches the originals or not. THEY ARE LYING.
To take the position of “only the originals are inspired and inerrant” is to leave the Christian with no inerrant Bible NOW, and there is no getting around this obvious truth.
A far more honest “statement of inerrancy” based on what they really believe (and most other Christians today too) would go something like this: “IF the originals had survived and WOULD HAVE BEEN placed into a single volume consisting of 66 inspired books, THEN THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN the inerrant and 100% historically true Bible we could have believed in. Unfortunately God did not do it this way and so we just have to do the best we can with what we have and nobody is really sure about or in total agreement with everybody else about what any particular reading or text might be. So, go with God and hope for the best.”
Even AFTER I pointed these things out to a Christian man named Matthew, he came back with this statement: “I believe the originals are inerrant and I believe the stream and transmission we have is the best we can expect. I do not see any reason to assume error as we continue to strive forward we have more access to affirming a bible as close to the originals as possible.”
He still doesn’t get it, does he. There ARE no originals, so how could he possibly know he is “close to the originals as possible” or not?
By the way, this Matthew also posted that he “likes” the NKJV, the NASB and the ESV. Apparently he is either unaware or “sees no reason to assume error” in the fact that among these three modern versions they differ textually by literally thousands of words, including numerous whole verses, and a couple of them reject scores of Hebrew readings, and hundreds of verses have completely different meanings. Matthew also tells us that he thinks Mark 16:9-20 and 1 John 5:7 don’t really belong in the Bible, but he still maintains that he “sees no reason to assume error.” Does this modern day Christian’s lackadaisical attitude toward the words of the living God look anything like what we see in the Bible of those “that tremble at His word”? (Isaiah 66:5)
All I am asking for is more honesty from folks when it comes to saying what they REALLY believe about the Bible. I, along with thousands of other Christians, am a King James Bible believer. We do not have to LIE when we say we believe the King James Bible IS the complete, inspired, inerrant and 100% historically true words of God. That is what we really believe.
You do not have to agree with us on this. You may think we are completely wrong, ignorant, uneducated, “divisive”, the spawn of Satan, a “Cult” or what seems to be even worse - a Ruckmanite :-0 But at least we tell you what we really believe and are not LYING ABOUT IT.
By the way, this same Matthew posted a poll called “Is KJV onlyism a cult”. It seems more than a tad ironic that in his mind Christians who actually believe their Bible IS the inerrant words of God belong to a Cult, but apparently those who don’t believe that ANY Bible in ANY language IS inerrant are now considered to be “Orthodox”. We do live in interesting times, don’t we.
IF you are an “originals only” type of Christian who believes that ONLY the originals were inspired and inerrant, and that “No translation is perfect”, then just say so. Be honest about it. But don’t stand in the pulpit or write on your blog things like “We believe the Bible IS the inerrant words of God”, when you have no such Bible anywhere in print to give to anyone, and you know you don’t. STOP LYING ABOUT IT!
If you are an “originals only” type of Christian with a non-existent, hypothetical “word of God” and all you can hope for is an ever changing, evolving, ballpark approximation to what you think God may or may not have written (though none of you agree even among yourselves), then just say so. Go ahead with your “I believe only the originals were inspired and inerrant” and leave it at that. It is good that you say “The Bible contains the truth that Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead and those that believe on Him shall receive forgiveness of sins.” We believe that too and want it preached. But don’t use pious sounding words or religious phrases like “the Bible IS infallible” or “the Scriptures ARE the inerrant words of God” when you don’t really believe it for a second. STOP LYING ABOUT IT!
“Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.” Isaiah 66:5
Will Kinney
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Notes from the internet
I often get great material from the Christian internet forums when I post my articles. After having posted "Stop Lying About It!" this is the response I got from one member over at CARM. A man who calls himself "BlackSabbath" posted part of my article and then his question like this:
STOP LYING ABOUT IT!
Why do so many Christians today continue to LIE about what they really believe about “the Bible”? Actually, the majority are beginning to be more honest in their beliefs and are admitting that they do not believe “The Bible IS the inerrant words of God”.
Of which Christians do you speak? Can you produce some names? Who is this "majority" you speak of?
To whom I wrote back: "Well, YOU, for instance. Do you or do you not believe "The Bible" (any bible in any language) IS the complete, inspired and 100% historically true words of God? If Yes, then please name it for us and tell us where we can get a copy of it so we can see for ourselves the differences and similarities. Are you then willing to take a stand on this "inerrant bible" of yours, and affirm in no uncertain terms that when other versions or translations or text disagree with your alleged "inerrant bible" that the others are wrong and yours is right? Or are you (as I fully expect) just another fence sitter and men pleaser who will then backtrack and take refuge in the pratfall position of those phantom, never seen by you and not in print "originals only", which in a very real way leaves us with no inerrant Bible now?
Golly, let me hazard a wild guess....
Go for us BS, tell us where we can get a copy of your "inerrant bible".
Thanks,
Will
Black Sabbath apparently was not able to gather up the courage or the common sense to respond, so another guy who calls himself Beukeboom (gotta love the names these guys come up with, huh) says: "You have failed to do what you ask of others. Figures."
To whom I then responded:
You have failed to do what you ask of others. Figures.
"Are you guys really that dense? Here, I will try to make it real clear to you. I believe and am convinced that the Authorized King James Holy Bible IS right now in the present tense the only complete, inspired and 100% historically and doctrinally true Bible on the face of this earth and it is the Standard by which all other bible versions and translations are to be measured. I believe it is without proven error and when any other bible translation differs from it in either text or meaning, then the other bible version is wrong at that point. Hope that clears things up for you. You may think I am wrong, but I don't have to lie about what I really believe about "The Bible".
Will Kinney
More Notes from the internet Forums:
Because I believe the #1 issue facing the church today is whether or not the Bible IS the inerrant words of God or not. You all can go on with your teaching and sermonizing all you want, but if all your teaching comes from a Bible that not even you believe is the inerrant words of God and the final written authority, then what is the point?
You fellas have an "almost" Bible that is "pretty close" with "not too many errors" but "No translation is perfect", yet you all teach and preach out of these "almost, pretty close, some errors, not perfect and not inerrant" multiple choice bible versions. It comes across as more than a little hypocritical and shallow of any real meaning when not even you guys believe The Book is the inspired and inerrant words of God. That's why.
Because I believe the #1 issue facing the church today is whether or not the Bible IS the inerrant words of God or not. You all can go on with your teaching and sermonizing all you want, but if all your teaching comes from a Bible that not even you believe is the inerrant words of God and the final written authority, then what is the point?
You fellas have an "almost" Bible that is "pretty close" with "not too many errors" but "No translation is perfect", yet you all teach and preach out of these "almost, pretty close, some errors, not perfect and not inerrant" multiple choice bible versions. It comes across as more than a little hypocritical and shallow of any real meaning when not even you guys believe The Book is the inspired and inerrant words of God. That's why.
Will K
