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    I thought it would be good to inform you of some of the false doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Here are a few quotes from the JWs. #1 Annialation "Would a loving God really torment people forever?... The wicked, of course, are not literally tormented because, as we have seen, when a person is dead he is completely out of existence... And it is also a lie, which the Devil spread, that the souls of the wicked are tormented." (from You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth) #2 Their view on the Trinity: "Sincere persons who want to know the true God and serve Him find it a bit difficult to love and worship a complicated, freakish-looking, three-headed God." (from Let God Be True) #3 Their view of the deity of Christ "Jesus was 'the Son of God.' Not God himself!" (from "The Word," Who Is He?) #4 Their view of the Holy Spirit "No, the holy spirit is not a person and it is not part of a Trinity. The holy spirit is God's active force that he uses to accomplish his will. It is not equal to God but is always at his disposition and subordinate to him." (from Should You Believe In The Trinity) #5 They believe you must be a JW to be saved. "To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." (from The Watchtower, February 15, 1983) These are just a few of the false doctrines of the JWs. I hope this helps someone who didn't know if JWs were Christian or not. They definitly are not.
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    Concerning #5, how would this make sense considering their movement only came about 150 years ago? This is just one of the quandaries followers of this movement should ask themselves. And it should prompt them to flee.

    But then it must be sooo difficult to break though because JW, like any other organism, aspires to breed. Kids obviously grow up thinking JW is the true way. They are obviously taught that others will blast them, and that this will be their persecution for the sake of JW being the true way, etc. It is all very sad as the lost are caught in a net designed specifically to keep them there.
    A bunch of leafs blowing in the wind shouting at each other that they know where the wind is blowing. I have no idea where it is blowing...I'd rather just enjoy the ride. Thank you Father for Jesus Christ!

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    2-5 are false, as for #1 the bible is quite clear both body and soul are destroyed in hell
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    Jehovah's Witnesses are in *breach of the preach*.
    Jehovah's Witnesses proselytizing is a false Gospel. (Gal. 1:8)

    Straight up doctrinal facts on Jehovah Witness.
    The Jehovah’s Witnesses teach preach that Jesus had his return aka second coming October 1914,then they spin all sorts of doctrinal embellishments on that date.
    They teach only 144,000 go to heaven,on and on and on with made up man made dogmas……They have infighting,crime and child abuse as bad as any church out there.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses promotion of their Watchtower sect has the net effect of stumbling and turning people off to the real Gospel.
    Jesus said: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte; and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves” (Matt 23:15)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathanbchristian View Post
    I thought it would be good to inform you of some of the false doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Here are a few quotes from the JWs. #1 Annialation "Would a loving God really torment people forever?... The wicked, of course, are not literally tormented because, as we have seen, when a person is dead he is completely out of existence... And it is also a lie, which the Devil spread, that the souls of the wicked are tormented." (from You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth) #2 Their view on the Trinity: "Sincere persons who want to know the true God and serve Him find it a bit difficult to love and worship a complicated, freakish-looking, three-headed God." (from Let God Be True) #3 Their view of the deity of Christ "Jesus was 'the Son of God.' Not God himself!" (from "The Word," Who Is He?) #4 Their view of the Holy Spirit "No, the holy spirit is not a person and it is not part of a Trinity. The holy spirit is God's active force that he uses to accomplish his will. It is not equal to God but is always at his disposition and subordinate to him." (from Should You Believe In The Trinity) #5 They believe you must be a JW to be saved. "To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." (from The Watchtower, February 15, 1983) These are just a few of the false doctrines of the JWs. I hope this helps someone who didn't know if JWs were Christian or not. They definitly are not.
    I don’t know much about Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I am impressed by how they go out into the world and evangelize. Only the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses seem to do that.

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    they told me hell was not real.

    all they care about is saving this world...instead of the people.


    and can we stop using the word Trinity.
    it is basically man made and not in the bible. A word Christians or churches made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xino View Post
    they told me hell was not real.

    all they care about is saving this world...instead of the people.


    and can we stop using the word Trinity.
    it is basically man made and not in the bible. A word Christians or churches made up.
    The word "trinity" is not in the bible, but the teaching that we label "trinity" is. To deny the Trinity, as scripture teaches it, is great heresy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyHaszard View Post
    Jehovah's Witnesses are in *breach of the preach*.
    Jehovah's Witnesses proselytizing is a false Gospel. (Gal. 1:8)

    Straight up doctrinal facts on Jehovah Witness.
    The Jehovah’s Witnesses teach preach that Jesus had his return aka second coming October 1914,then they spin all sorts of doctrinal embellishments on that date.
    They teach only 144,000 go to heaven,on and on and on with made up man made dogmas……They have infighting,crime and child abuse as bad as any church out there.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses promotion of their Watchtower sect has the net effect of stumbling and turning people off to the real Gospel.
    Jesus said: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte; and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves” (Matt 23:15)
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    may the grace and peace of Christ Our Lord continue to cover and guide you. Amen.

    there are so few like you. willing to come forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xino View Post
    they told me hell was not real.

    all they care about is saving this world...instead of the people.


    and can we stop using the word Trinity.
    it is basically man made and not in the bible. A word Christians or churches made up.

    Only if we can also stop using the word "Bible" to refer to the Scriptures, which is nowhere found in the Scriptures to ever be attributed to the Scriptures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by resurrection33 View Post
    I don’t know much about Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I am impressed by how they go out into the world and evangelize. Only the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses seem to do that.
    Let me ask you, what exactly does it mean to evangelize?
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    Only if we can also stop using the word "Bible" to refer to the Scriptures, which is nowhere found in the Scriptures to ever be attributed to the Scriptures.
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    The word "trinity" is not in the bible, but the teaching that we label "trinity" is. To deny the Trinity, as scripture teaches it, is great heresy.
    This has nothing to do with the name of the written Word of God - or Bible. Do you know where the word trinity originated?
    Denying the trinity - according to the definition of God being three divine persons - is heresy? According to who? Is God One being or is He three? And if you believe He is three separate making One, then of course you want to use a label to depict those beliefs. But to say it is heresy to deny the trinity - as defined: According to this doctrine, there is only one God in three persons. Each person is God, whole and entire. They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin - is according to your own understandings of the Godhead.
    Not everyone shares your view. I certainly don't.
    I deny the word trinity because it is not scriptural. I do not deny the titles / names 'God', 'Jesus' or the 'Holy Spirit', 'Father', 'Son' or 'Holy Ghost'. It totally depends on your understanding of the Godhead.

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    Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons never come to my door anymore. I probably shouldn't say why on here, but I will say that I found a good way to prevent them from showing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathanbchristian View Post
    I hope this helps someone who didn't know if JWs were Christian or not. They definitly are not.
    To Christians they may not be Christians, but to the rest of the world they are. Just like Mormons. Many Christians do not consider Mormons to be Christians, but in the eyes of the rest of the world they are. They also probably consider themselves Christians. I know that none of what I said makes them Christian either I just thought I would point that out. I don't know much about Mormons, but as for Jehovah Witness I can say I think some of what they believe is a little...crazy I guess. I never understood the limited number of spaces in Heaven and yet they want more to join the belief. Wouldn't you want less to join cause what if someone better comes along and takes your spot? Though I guess that goes along with the belief they have no eternal damnation cause there is no Hell which makes no sense again. I wish I could ask a Jehovah Witness what happens if there is more people than Heaven can hold. It would be interesting to hear their response.

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    This has nothing to do with the name of the written Word of God - or Bible. Do you know where the word trinity originated?
    Denying the trinity - according to the definition of God being three divine persons - is heresy? According to who? Is God One being or is He three? And if you believe He is three separate making One, then of course you want to use a label to depict those beliefs. But to say it is heresy to deny the trinity - as defined: According to this doctrine, there is only one God in three persons. Each person is God, whole and entire. They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin - is according to your own understandings of the Godhead.
    Not everyone shares your view. I certainly don't.
    I deny the word trinity because it is not scriptural. I do not deny the titles / names 'God', 'Jesus' or the 'Holy Spirit', 'Father', 'Son' or 'Holy Ghost'. It totally depends on your understanding of the Godhead.
    Trinity = one Being, three distinct persons

    If you deny the doctrine of the Trinity, you are in gross error, an an heretic. The Doctrine of the Trinity is what scripture teaches.

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    I am deeply surprised at how many Christians deny the fact that Jesus is God. Now I don't normally take a very distinct stand on anything, but if a preacher said that Jesus is not God I would leave the church.

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    Trinity = one Being, three distinct persons

    If you deny the doctrine of the Trinity, you are in gross error, an an heretic. The Doctrine of the Trinity is what scripture teaches.

    Jesus will sit at the right hand of God.
    People who throw around the word heretic according to their beliefs make me smile

    Is Jesus - the Son - God or isn't He? The doctrine of trinity believes that all three are God. So why the need for a new label to say they are three distinct? Are they three Gods then? Is one greater than the other, or are they equally God? If they are ALL One, why don't you call 'them' by the Title they are - God?

    Do you know why people do not like to use that word trinity? Besides the fact that it isn't three Gods, but One? It has connections to Nicea Rome -- the Catholic church. Do you know they claim the origin of trinity? A church that was founded on the blood of the saints of God -- and protestant christians want anything to do with it? What's happened that they would take on something that they came out of? It's so similar to the original, its close to an image of it.

    By the way, does God have a right hand? An actual right hand? To sit at the right hand means power and authority. (I was confused about this a few years ago).
    God is giving someone else the power and authority, someone who isn't God? Not likely. He said quite clearly there are no other Gods. And why should there be? Jesus IS God.
    All three are One? Yes. So may they be called by the right title as being One - God.

    Anyway, we can take this discussion to another thread

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    Bea22, this is probably the easiest way to convey the Doctrine of the Trinity.




    The three persons of the Trinity, could, in theory, sit and have a round table meeting.

    If you can't grasp that, there is a bigger problem here.

    Do you know they claim the origin of trinity?
    Do you know they claim the origin of all things Christian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydiggs View Post
    Bea22, this is probably the easiest way to convey the Doctrine of the Trinity.




    The three persons of the Trinity, could, in theory, sit and have a round table meeting.

    If you can't grasp that, there is a bigger problem here.



    Do you know they claim the origin of all things Christian?
    Did all things christian start with them? No. We all know that.
    Did the trinity doctrine start with them? Yes. On that they are speaking the truth.
    Actually, I can see your trinity doctrine.
    I do not believe the same. If the problem is with me then I'm glad I have the 'problem'. I worship One God. Not three.
    As for the round table meeting that could take place, in theory, whose theory is that? And how would this meeting go down?
    (Sorry to person who started this thread about Jehovah witnesses, for going off topic

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    Did all things christian start with them? No. We all know that.
    Did the trinity doctrine start with them? Yes. On that they are speaking the truth.
    This is where you are wrong. The doctrine of the trinity did not start with the Papists.

    The Doctrine of the Trinity is taught in scripture.

    Here is an example:

    Luke 3:22
    and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."

    In this passage it is demonstrated, the distinctness of the three.

    Yet, we know that it is all, one being.



    Actually, I can see your trinity doctrine.
    You may thing so, but like many Unitarians, you don't understand what the Doctrine of the Trinity states.


    I do not believe the same. If the problem is with me then I'm glad I have the 'problem'. I worship One God. Not three.
    The doctrine of the Trinity does not claim the existence of three beings. It affirms strongly the existence of one being.


    As for the round table meeting that could take place, in theory, whose theory is that? And how would this meeting go down?
    I think a good example would be the passage quoted above, Luke 3:22.

    (Sorry to person who started this thread about Jehovah witnesses, for going off topic
    It's on topic. The JW's deny the trinity as well.


    A related illustration:

    Some people have trouble grasping the doctrine of the trinity. How can there be three distinct persons, yet only one being?

    None of us can wrap our mind around it.

    Is that a problem? No. Let me ask you this: Is Jesus God, or is he a man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydiggs View Post
    This is where you are wrong. The doctrine of the trinity did not start with the Papists.

    The Doctrine of the Trinity is taught in scripture.

    Here is an example:

    Luke 3:22
    and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."

    In this passage it is demonstrated, the distinctness of the three.

    Yet, we know that it is all, one being.




    You may thing so, but like many Unitarians, you don't understand what the Doctrine of the Trinity states.



    The doctrine of the Trinity does not claim the existence of three beings. It affirms strongly the existence of one being.



    I think a good example would be the passage quoted above, Luke 3:22.

    It's on topic. The JW's deny the trinity as well.


    A related illustration:

    Some people have trouble grasping the doctrine of the trinity. How can there be three distinct persons, yet only one being?

    None of us can wrap our mind around it.

    Is that a problem? No. Let me ask you this: Is Jesus God, or is he a man?

    The bible also says that Jesus is of the Holy Spirit. If this is true then who's Jesus' daddy? God the Father or the Holy Spirit?

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