The Lord's Supper: Is it vital to your salvation?

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Tru2JHWH

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Partaking of the Lord's Supper really boils down to: Do you as a Christian follow the example that was set 2,000 years ago on the day of Pentecost by the apostles.
Jesus is the one who started the ordinance of the Lord's Supper. The first time the Lord's Supper was observed was when Jesus was with his disciples, after they had partook of the Passover meal. The first Lord's Supper is recorded in three places Matthew 26:17-30, Mark 14:12-26 and Luke 22:13-39. Jesus Christ instituted the Lord's Supper.
Jesus intended for his church to continue practicing the Lord's Supper. "This do in remembrance of me" (Luke 22:19) "This do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me" (1 Corinthians 11:25) It can also be seen that the early New Testament church practiced the Lord's Supper frequently. "And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. (Acts 2:42)
The kingdom was established on the day of Pentecost (Mark 9:1; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:1,4) which was always observed on a Sunday according to Leviticus 23:15,16. It was on this day that Jesus was raised from the dead (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2, 9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1), and it was on this day of Pentecost that many became Christians for the first time. Acts 2:42 "And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." This is the first mention that we have of Christian worship within the kingdom, and it includes the breaking of bread, one of the elements of the Lord's Supper.
Paul writes concerning the Lord's Supper, "For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come" (1 Corinthians 11:26) Notice specifically the phrase, "As often as." This indicates regularity to the matter. In other words, it was not just once in a blue moon that they partook of the Lord's Supper, but on a regular basis. What was that regular basis? It was the first day of the week. In Acts 20:7, we read, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break break, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."
So partaking of the Lord's Supper is commanded by Jesus Christ through the apostles and it is to be done weekly "on the first day of the week."
 
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Just like water baptism, salvation does not come through the Lord's Supper; it comes by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus. However, it is a very important sacrament command by Jesus Christ that we partake in it in remembrance of Him, therefore failure to do so is disobedience. It should not be taken unworthily just as Paul was rebuking the Corinthian church for turning the supper into an uproar and disgracing the Holy ceremony (1 Cor 11:18-34):
18-For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
19-For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
20-When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.
21-For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.
22-What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.
23-For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24-And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25-After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26-For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27-Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28-But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29-For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30-For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31-For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32-But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
33-Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.
34-And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.
The Lord Supper should be conducted in unity, orderliness, reverence, and a self- examination and sober reflection of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross.
 
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Eccl12and13

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Tru2JHWH said:
Let's use the word of God and consider your following statements;

Partaking of the Lord's Supper really boils down to: Do you as a Christian follow the example that was set 2,000 years ago on the day of Pentecost by the apostles.
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Do those that call themselves Christians really follow the example that Christ set? Above you ask about the Lord's supper and you compare it to the day of Pentecost. Let's go to the word of God to see what each day was;

Let's first find when this feast was established;

Lev.23
[4] These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
[5] In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.
[6] And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

Now let's read what feast it was that Jesus and the apostles kept;

Luke 22
[1] Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.
[11] And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
[12] And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
[13] And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
[15] And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
[16] For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
[17] And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
[18] For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
[19] And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

So we find that the feast that the Lord was partaking of was the Feast of Unleavened Bread and the Passover. This feast was done ONLY once a year, on the 14th day of the first month. Now let's find when Pentecost was partaken;

Lev.23
[9] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[10] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
[11] And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
[12] And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
[13] And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
[14] And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
[15] And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
[16] Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

So we find that the Feast of Pentecost was kept at the end of the harvest....and it was always on the first day of the week, "...Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days...", hence it was referred to as Pentecost because it was on the 50th day, 7 sabbaths (49 days) + the morrow after (1 day) = 50 days.

Clearly the Feast of the Passover and the Feast of Pentecost are different Holy days kept at different times of God's year. Next;

Jesus is the one who started the ordinance of the Lord's Supper. The first time the Lord's Supper was observed was when Jesus was with his disciples, after they had partook of the Passover meal.
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As we just read above....the Feast of Unleavened Bread/Passover has been kept since Moses day. This is the feast that Jesus and the apostles are partaking in above in Luke 22. Jesus is the one that started the Passover...but He started it thousand of years earlier. Next;

"For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come" (1 Corinthians 11:26) Notice specifically the phrase, "As often as." This indicates regularity to the matter. In other words, it was not just once in a blue moon that they partook of the Lord's Supper, but on a regular basis. What was that regular basis? It was the first day of the week.
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Since we now know that the feast the Lord and the apostles were partaking of was the feast of Unleavened Bread/Passover, we also know they did NOT partake of it regularly, as in more than once a year, nor was it always on the first day of the week. The Feast of Unleavened Bread/Passover was a movable feast but was always kept on the 14th day of the first month of God's year. Just as a persons birthday is always on the same date every year, the day may change but the date always stays the same. Although Paul tells us, " ...This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me...", please take note here....Paul did NOT say to do this often, he simply said, "...as oft as ye...", meaning whenever you do it, which is once a year on the 14th day of the first month of God's year, it is to be done in remembrance of the Lord. It was God's law and we know Jesus did not break one of God's laws, nor did He ever teach anyone to break God's laws.


You ask a very good questions, "Do you as a Christian follow the example that was set....?", "What was that regular basis?"

My question to the forum would be the same;

Do you follow the example set by Jesus Christ at the time when God instructs? Do you keep the feast of Unleavened Bread/Passover on the 14th day of the first month of God's year just as Jesus and ALL of the apostles did?




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Eccl12and13

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Most are not aware that the supper Jesus had with His apostles on the day of His death, which is referred to as "The Last Supper" was, in fact, a commandment of God that had to be kept. Jesus and His apostles were keeping the Feast of Unleavened Bread/Passover.

Most are also not aware of the change that Jesus was instituting at that Feast. All of the other Passover meals required the killing of a lamb.....but Jesus was about to do away with animal sacrifices with His death. But the Passover meal still had to continue...so Jesus instituted the bread and the wine to substitute for the lamb.

This had to be done BEFORE His death....for how could a testament be changed after a person is dead....

Heb.9
[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Note that Jesus said nothing about the Feast day changing. At no point did He say it was to be done often. It was to be kept just as it was in the beginning.

Lev.23
[5] In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.
[6] And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
[7] In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Other than the change that Jesus instituted at His last Passover meal, all other aspects of God's Holy day remains the same.


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WolfInOxHide

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Not necessary for salvation.

The physical representation of it, a good thing to do any time you eat bread or drink wine, as a believer.

In a spiritual sense, necessary and perpetual food for a servant.
 
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Eccl12and13

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WolfInOxHide said:
Not necessary for salvation.

The physical representation of it, a good thing to do any time you eat bread or drink wine, as a believer.

In a spiritual sense, necessary and perpetual food for a servant.
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Let's go to the word and find what the creator said was needed in order to receive eternal life;

Matt.19
[16] And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Now let's read how long the commandments of the Lord are to be kept and by whom;

Num. 15
[15] One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD.
[16] One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.

God's laws are to be kept by all that desire to worship the true and living God. And they are to be kept "...for ever..."

Now Jesus said the keeping of the commandments is needed that we may have eternal life...and the Passover is part of God's commandments.

Sounds like it's needed!




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