Bipolar Disorder – Is it Demons????

[Jordache]

Can it be a result of demonic oppression? Certainly. Do we have the right or authority to judge its source. Certainly not! My mother has recently been diagnosed bipolar among other things. She is a Christian albeit a baby Christian though she's known the Lord for possibly 26 years. My estranged husband was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. He is also a Christian. Can the enemy influence us in a serious way? Yes. Can he possess us? No!

 

[moment_of_faith]

Carey -- were you diagnosed before or after accepting Jesus? Tell me your basic beliefs on Jesus.

 

[moment_of_faith]

Jordache -- were you and your family diagnosed before or after accepting Jesus? Tell me your basic beliefs on Jesus.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Now I may hurt some peoples feeling and I’m very sorry, but every person I have ever spoken to that has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder doesn’t accept Jesus as their lord and savior or didn’t before they were diagnosed or they have some crazy version of who Jesus is.
Can anyone help me out with this?

My father was a very strong Christian man. He became a Christian in his adolescent years. When he was in his 40s he was diagnosed wtih bipolar disorder.
To say someone has a mental condition is because they don't accept Jesus is foolish. Bi polar disorder can be a serious illness if not treated. If the illness was "spiritual" then anti psychotic drugs would not even begin to touch the disorder, but it does help.

He did go through spells where he thought he did not need his meds. When he did that he did become dangerous. His mind "wasn't right", but that does not mean he was posessed by demons.
Bi polar disorder can be explain scientifically. It is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Posession is spiritual. Something supernatural cannot be explained with science.
To say someone is posessed means they have on control over theirself or their soul. A person with a mental illness may act "crazy", but that does not mean their soul is damaged as a result of it.

I suffer from anxiety and depression. Does that mean I haven't accepted JEsus? Certainly not. I am a Christian, and even Christians suffer with mental instability at times.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

^ That chemical would be serotonin It's more or less a natural happy- drug. It is also produced upon body contact (so hugs are good!)

Lack of it can cause depression, bipolar disorders etc.

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* Perhaps for me being a follower of The Way is the thing that keeps me from being Bi-polar. It takes a lot of prayer and study and meditation (and sometimes retreat from the world) to keep my reaction threshold down. I have been involved in a lot of worldly, well, more - 'secular' than worldly activities and I see a LOT of trickery and deceit, witchcraft and freemasonry and other forms of evil at play in the world - first hand, in the places you would least want to see them - churches, schools, courts, corporate entities.

Isaiah 30:30
And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.

Ephesians 4:31
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

Colossians 3:8
But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

Colossians 3:21
Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

 

[starfield]

Now I may hurt some peoples feeling and I’m very sorry, but every person I have ever spoken to that has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder doesn’t accept Jesus as their lord and savior or didn’t before they were diagnosed or they have some crazy version of who Jesus is.
Can anyone help me out with this?

If people with bipolar disorder are demon possessed then it would mean that everyone with a mental health problem (even depressive disorders) is demon possessed, which is not correct. There are biological factors such as brain chemistry or genetics and psychological factors that contribute to development of a mental illness. I wouldn't conclude that it is demonic possession.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

What if the demon is not the bi-polar condition itself per se, but rather the cause of any unpleasant manifestation of the condition?

Whatever the condition of the man was, the demons caused him to throw himself in the fire.

What if having the demons cast out allowed him to deal with his problems and control himself?

What if the underlying conditions of what we call "mental illness" are in fact, just the way people are made, yet only manifest problems in a world where sin is an option and temptation rampant?

What if telling this along with the real hope of salvation and repentance can itself cause a change of mental condition and in turn cast out the demon?

In the name of Y'Shua, come out.

 

[Elizabeth619]

The Holy Spirit and Satan cannot reside in the same person.

 

[cenallen]

^ That chemical would be serotonin It's more or less a natural happy- drug. It is also produced upon body contact (so hugs are good!)

Lack of it can cause depression, bipolar disorders etc.

very true.
i suspect that we are giving too much credence to the secular (occult actually) DSM - 'mental health experts'.
all these labels.



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1) life is difficult.
2) we don't get enough exercise and fresh air
3) our food is virtually without nutrients these days
4) our food is filled with hormones
5) we don't get enough sunlight.

people get depressed or anxious. they tell their doctor. far too often psychiatric medication is dispensed when it should be the among last options (imo).

if this repeats enough times, doctors simply flip through the DSM, and like our "Judicial system", a diagnosis (and re-diagnosis) is made by precedent - in other words, "patient not responsive enough to 'anti-depressant', new diagnosis is needed, therefore new medication is needed". the next thing we know we have people worse off than than ever.

i don't know. something seems not quite legit to me with all this psychotropic medication thing. i know its helpful in many cases but the "labels" are dangerous i think.

young people are searching the internet for answers to teen angst and end up labeling themselves!

 

[Elizabeth619]

very true.
i suspect that we are giving too much credence to the secular (occult actually) DSM - 'mental health experts'.
all these labels.



Benefits of Sunlight
Getting enough exposure to sunlight each day is important to your health and mental well-being. Sunlight increases Vitamin D production which helps your body absorb and use calcium. Sunlight also provides the body with vitamin C.

Sunlight helps regulate hormones such as melatonin and serotonin. Melatonin helps the body sleep while serotonin effects mood. Too much or too little melatonin or serotonin can lead to decreased energy, depression and fatigue.

Read more: How Much Sunlight Do You Need to Boost Serotonin? | eHow.com How Much Sunlight Do You Need to Boost Serotonin? | eHow.com


1) life is difficult.
2) we don't get enough exercise and fresh air
3) our food is virtually without nutrients these days
4) our food is filled with hormones
5) we don't get enough sunlight.

people get depressed or anxious. they tell their doctor. far too often psychiatric medication is dispensed when it should be the among last options (imo).

if this repeats enough times, doctors simply flip through the DSM, and like our "Judicial system", a diagnosis (and re-diagnosis) is made by precedent - in other words, "patient not responsive enough to 'anti-depressant', new diagnosis is needed, therefore new medication is needed". the next thing we know we have people worse off than than ever.

i don't know. something seems not quite legit to me with all this psychotropic medication thing. i know its helpful in many cases but the "labels" are dangerous i think.

young people are searching the internet for answers to teen angst and end up labeling themselves!

Too many regular doctors are prescribing psych meds without giving their patients an actual psychological evaluation. To me that is very dangerous.
Now days small children are "fixed" with drugs without ever being properly diagnosed....and if anyone thinks that won't affect adulthood THEY are nuts.

 

[carey]

I was diagnosed before abd after getting saved
My basic beliefs?
I didn't find Him, He found me
He saved not only my soul but my life
Bible thumping Jesus freak
He is the way, the truth and the life
I can do nothing apart from Him

 

[Bea22]

What I believe is this, people who have the Holy Spirit can also be affected by spirits that aren't of the Holy Spirit. For example, some people don't believe that Paul's thorn in the flesh was his eyes, I do.
2 Corinthians:
7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

I know of many people who are good righteous christians - who have the Holy Spirit - who suffer with mental illness, suffer with epilepsy, depression, suicidal thoughts, schizophrenia, health problems and so on. They can all be scientifically explained, they can manifest physically - but that doesn't make the whole story just in a human physical dimension. There are spiritual influences that human eyes cannot see in this realm. A person with depression that has suicidal thoughts, do you think that is just a mental deficiency causing them to think that way? I think not. I was in that position once and my belief that it's a spiritual thing is because I was prayed for and from that exact moment, the thing left me and I never again felt that way - 10 years ago.

Some things are to test us, like in Paul's case, we pray for our healing but it doesn't happen yet. God will still be glorified in our weakness or in our healing.
So I am a big believer in supernatural influences on humans for many things in life. I just don't fully understand why some things are allowed and some things we are delivered from.

 

[carey]

*and

Lol

 

[Jordache]

My mom first found the lord about 26 yrs ago though family suspects she's been Bipolar for her entire life more or less. Everyone in my family is on anti-depressants-- all the woman over 25 and several men. I struggle with depression because of a genetic condition and a familial predisposition to it. Is there sin involved for everyone? Yes. But don't dare tell me I am possessed. There may be possessed people in my family, but I don't believe myself or my mother are. I was also diagnosed post accepting Jesus, though I had it before.

Jesus is my savior. He is capable of healing me when and how he wishes. He is the only son of God who lived a sinless life and died the ulimate sinners death for me and for you. He loves me and He knows me, and he still has grace for me. He is bigger than all my issues. He is my judge and he has made me righteous. What else would you like to know?

 

[moment_of_faith]

Jordache -- You are correct Jesus can heal you. Have you ever looked up healing scriptures? Maybe a good place to start, but let me ask you a tough question. I see you say everyone in your family is fighting this. Did your family believe in Jesus? Did their parents and so on.

I'm looking to see if someone else in the family let the demon in and that's why all of you have been fighting it as well.

Carey -- So you had it before. Does your family believe in Jesus? Could someone in your family opened the door to a demon?

Carey / Jordache -- Has it every been anyone in your family that bad mouth the lord? See maybe someone else let the devil in so it has been with the family for a long time.

Do either one of you tell satan to get out your head, out the house and down the road in the name of Jesus? Now I'm not bipolar, but believe under spiritual attack a lot. So I also open my door and tell satan to get out. This is a house of GOD and I'm his child and to get out my head/ body / house / yard and on down the road in the name of Jesus Christ I demand it.

I pray I'm not hurting either one of your feelings. I'm just asking. I will pray for you as well.

Also have you ever though about weening yourself off the meds? Everyone that has taken the meds say they make you feel numb.

 

[moment_of_faith]

Has everyone notice that mental disability is on the rise. I have been telling everyone for the last several years it would be. I based this off of where I believe we are in the time line of the Lord Return. I have told everyone the closer we get to the lords return the more you will see because the fallen angels know it's not much time left and they are going to the lake of fire. So they are " Themselves " getting crazy. They are stressing. They are what we call DEAD MAN WALKING and they are going to try their best to take as many as they can with them.

So armor up with the full armor of the lord Jesus Christ

 

[Elizabeth619]

Has everyone notice that mental disability is on the rise. I have been telling everyone for the last several years it would be. I based this off of where I believe we are in the time line of the Lord Return. I have told everyone the closer we get to the lords return the more you will see because the fallen angels know it's not much time left and they are going to the lake of fire. So they are " Themselves " getting crazy. They are stressing. They are what we call DEAD MAN WALKING and they are going to try their best to take as many as they can with them.

So armor up with the full armor of the lord Jesus Christ

So you are still saying people will mental illness are not of God?

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Do either one of you tell satan to get out your head, out the house and down the road in the name of Jesus? Now I'm not bipolar, but believe under spiritual attack a lot. So I also open my door and tell satan to get out. This is a house of GOD and I'm his child and to get out my head/ body / house / yard and on down the road in the name of Jesus Christ I demand it.
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If demons keep returning to your house, shouldn't you focus more on that than on people with bipolar disorders?

 

[carey]

@moment of faith
No, there have been no doors opened in my family, since my family believes in Jesus, most of them anyway, and don't assume because someone says they are bipolar that they are on meds, my bipolar is controlled by God, and when i have my moments He is the one i go to

 

[JaumeJ]

The fate of souls is nothing to theorize about. Either one is gifted with the ability to discern and cast out a demon or one is not. Yahweh, God, does not foment disorder, confusion and chaos; He is order and tranquility of purpose. If one has the gift, one is fit to execute it.