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    I used to believe animal sacrifices was just some gross blood letting ceremony practiced by backwards people. But after a study of the law I learned they are actually a gift from God to man not a gift from man to God.
    With the exception of the burnt offering ( wholely consumed by fire) the sacrifices are to be eaten-- this includes the tithe offering.
    they are offered with cakes and herbs and wine. There is music, song and psalms.
    the altar is described as the table of the Lord. they are feasts of joy and gladness.
    the completion of the sacrifices offered is to partake of them.
    they are a shadow of Christ
    He is our peace offering
    sin offering
    trespass offering
    wave offering ( waved before the crowd as they cried crucify Him)
    heave offering ( upon the cross)
    grain offering ( bread of life)
    tithe offering ( firstborn )
    Jesus pointed this out when He taught -- My flesh is food indeed
    My blood is drink indeed
    we call this the Lords Supper

    p.s. catholics do not continuously sacrifice Jesus that is a perpetual offering
    we do continuously partake of this offering with joy and gladness
    (not symbolically -- we believe in the real presence )

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    Quote Originally Posted by mule View Post
    I used to believe animal sacrifices was just some gross blood letting ceremony practiced by backwards people. But after a study of the law I learned they are actually a gift from God to man not a gift from man to God.
    With the exception of the burnt offering ( wholely consumed by fire) the sacrifices are to be eaten-- this includes the tithe offering.
    they are offered with cakes and herbs and wine. There is music, song and psalms.
    the altar is described as the table of the Lord. they are feasts of joy and gladness.
    the completion of the sacrifices offered is to partake of them.
    they are a shadow of Christ
    He is our peace offering
    sin offering
    trespass offering
    wave offering ( waved before the crowd as they cried crucify Him)
    heave offering ( upon the cross)
    grain offering ( bread of life)
    tithe offering ( firstborn )
    Jesus pointed this out when He taught -- My flesh is food indeed
    My blood is drink indeed
    we call this the Lords Supper

    p.s. catholics do not continuously sacrifice Jesus that is a perpetual offering
    we do continuously partake of this offering with joy and gladness
    (not symbolically -- we believe in the real presence )
    I think there may've been an emotional element to the Passover sacrifice as well. Who would be willing to kill a blemishless, obedient and harmless lamb? Seems like such a waste. But the message was not one of a wasted life but of the price of sin and of saved lives. I think if we all sacrificed our own Passover lambs personally today it would help us to understand the price of sin and just a fraction of what God had to go through.


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    you know.. tribes used to cast their sins into a goat and then send it out into the desert to die. That's where the term scapegoating comes from. I don't see how this is any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntoTheVoid View Post
    you know.. tribes used to cast their sins into a goat and then send it out into the desert to die. That's where the term scapegoating comes from. I don't see how this is any different.
    The Tribes did that (the Temple sacrifices and system)...as well as sacrificing lambs.

    those pointed forward to Jesus Christ - who was both the Lamb and the goat.

    if you accept it.

    being the goat who removed the sins away from you, that's what that means.
    far away - never to be remembered in God's sight. ever.

    if you reject the gift, well....you bear the burden of your own sin.

    all those animals that suffered and died were a PICTURE, from God, about the seriousness of our SIN.
    He didn't like any of that...but we had to get THE MESSAGE.

    this is SERIOUS.

    read this:

    Leviticus: Seedbed of NT Theology
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAristocat View Post
    I think there may've been an emotional element to the Passover sacrifice as well. Who would be willing to kill a blemishless, obedient and harmless lamb? Seems like such a waste. But the message was not one of a wasted life but of the price of sin and of saved lives. I think if we all sacrificed our own Passover lambs personally today it would help us to understand the price of sin and just a fraction of what God had to go through.

    And remember, that lamb was supposed to stay with the family for 4 days before sacrificing. It was likely that the lamb became part of that family.

    Which is even more of a picture of Yeshua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAristocat View Post
    I think there may've been an emotional element to the Passover sacrifice as well. Who would be willing to kill a blemishless, obedient and harmless lamb? Seems like such a waste. But the message was not one of a wasted life but of the price of sin and of saved lives. I think if we all sacrificed our own Passover lambs personally today it would help us to understand the price of sin and just a fraction of what God had to go through.

    What, you don't. LOL, actually, the Passover lamb was a perfect picture of the innocence of Christ. When the Passover was sacrificed, it was selected and penned up on the 10th day of the month. It was not sacrificed until the 14th. Five days of nurturing this lamb until it was killed. It was intended to elicit certain emotions (remorse being one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KohenMatt View Post
    And remember, that lamb was supposed to stay with the family for 4 days before sacrificing. It was likely that the lamb became part of that family.

    Which is even more of a picture of Yeshua.
    Sorry Matt, we must have been typing at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntoTheVoid View Post
    you know.. tribes used to cast their sins into a goat and then send it out into the desert to die. That's where the term scapegoating comes from. I don't see how this is any different.
    The scapegoat did not represent Christ. The Azazel did not DIE. It was not sacrificed.

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    I just wanted to add, reading this thread made me tear up...thanks so much for posting.

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    I can't help but wonder what thoughts Jesus had. He wept after entering the city. Was it because the people had greeted Him like a King, not knowing what He was about to do, and knew the depths of their remorse when some did know afterward? I wonder when did He become aware that He was who the old testament spoke of? Was he 12, or 2, was He born with the knowledge? When did He know He would be slaughtered, like a lamb not opening His mouth? Just to think that one day I will stand before Him!! My KING, my Salvation!!! and then we will know all about it, i think, but it matters not, just to worship at His feet..it's enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karraster View Post
    I can't help but wonder what thoughts Jesus had. He wept after entering the city. Was it because the people had greeted Him like a King, not knowing what He was about to do, and knew the depths of their remorse when some did know afterward? I wonder when did He become aware that He was who the old testament spoke of? Was he 12, or 2, was He born with the knowledge? When did He know He would be slaughtered, like a lamb not opening His mouth? Just to think that one day I will stand before Him!! My KING, my Salvation!!! and then we will know all about it, i think, but it matters not, just to worship at His feet..it's enough.
    He knew at age twelve...

    Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john832 View Post
    He knew at age twelve...

    Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
    Yes but, He said that like they should have known. I wonder the exact moment He knew. Where was he at, what was He doing? I know scripture doesn't go into that, and it's not for us to know all things, just that I wonder..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karraster View Post
    Yes but, He said that like they should have known. I wonder the exact moment He knew. Where was he at, what was He doing? I know scripture doesn't go into that, and it's not for us to know all things, just that I wonder..
    Don't know. I posted in the sense that we know that He knew by age twelve. He could have known much earlier than that, I just know of no scripture that says so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john832 View Post
    The scapegoat did not represent Christ. The Azazel did not DIE. It was not sacrificed.
    you've already been debunked on this.
    once again, attributing the work of Christ to satan.

    go find the last thread this was covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john832 View Post
    He knew at age twelve...

    Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
    Did He know at one when trapped in a powerless baby body? Just asking. Must be awful if He knew and I believe He did - the reason why I frown when I hear Away in a manger...

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