A Basic Summary of the Seven Laws of Noah Versus the Ten Comandments of God

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If God really did give Noah Seven Laws to obey,, why is there NO reference to it?

  • Because Moses forgot to mention it

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  • Because the Talmudic Rabbis made it up

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  • Because the Rabbis plan on abolishing the Christian Sabbath and that's just for starters!

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  • Because it's simply a summary of the actual Hebrew legal traditions before Moses

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Maccabaeus

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Some Crucial Facts concerning the Ten Commandments and the Seven Laws of Noah




---> According to Jewish Rabbinical legend, the Seven Laws of Noah were given to Noah and his family of three sons- Shem, Japheth, and Ham immediately after the Great Flood ended in 2105 B.C. However, the primary text for this story, the Book of Genesis, makes absolutely no mention of these Seven Laws except for the general prohibition against murder and the drinking of any blood.

---> Keep in mind the alleged author of Genesis happens Moses, who is said to have personally received the Ten Commandments from God while atop Mt. Sinai. Therefore to suggest that the 10 Commandments was simply an updated, modified, or extended version of the ancient Seven laws of Noah also given to Noah by God, seems highly implausible. Logically speaking, there seems little to no reason to believe Moses would have failed to mention these Seven Noahide laws, if they in fact, they ever existed, and especially if God himself had mentioned them to Noah.

---> Historically speaking, the Seven Laws of Noah have been a basically Jewish concept seldom taken into consideration by the Christian Church. The oldest known source documenting the Seven Laws of Noah is the Jewish Talmud, a post-Christian set of texts, written at least 100 years after Christianity had been established. In contrast, there is far more evidence attesting to the ancient origins of the Ten Commandments, while the sources documenting the Noahide Laws are either scant or nonexistent.

---> From the very beginning of Christianity, the Church has taught that the Ten Commandments of Moses, brought down from Mt. Sinai and written with the very 'finger of God', are eternal laws of God which all Christians are expected to obey or face punishment both in this life and the next. Jesus Christ mentions nearly all the Ten Commandments in the Gospels and reaffirms the need for believers to follow and obey them at all times. There is no direct mention of the Seven Laws of Noah in either the Old or New Testament.

---> When it comes to the Seven Laws of Noah, some Jewish and Christian scholars believe there is evidence that the founding fathers of the Christian Church, most of whom knew Jesus personally, used them as a basis for deciding that Gentile Christians must be circumcised and follow the Laws of the Torah. One source notes the following: 'On the initiative of Peter, and of James, the head of the Jerusalem church, it was agreed that acceptance of the Noachian Laws...should be demanded of the heathen desirous of entering the Church' (Jewish Encyclopedia, New Testament). Keep in mind this understanding of the relationship between Christianity and the Seven Laws of Noah is still a subject of debate even today.

---> On the other hand, the validity of the Ten Commandments has never been a subject of dispute among the vast majority of Christian religious authorities. One of the major sections of the Catechism of the Catholic Church is dedicated exclusively to listing, explaining, and interpreting the Ten Commandments as it relates to the Christian faith of today. Most Protestant Churches believe likewise.


+ The Judeo/Christian Ten Commandments in Simple English +

1. YHVH is the LORD your God. You will have no other gods but Him.
2. You will not use the name of the LORD in vain.
3. You will honor the Sabbath day.
4. You will honor your father and your mother.
5. You will not kill.
6. You will not commit adultery.
7. You will not steal.
8. You will not lie.
9. You will not envy another man's wife.
10. You will not envy another man's property.

- Established by God in 1313 B.C.

_____________________________


+ The Judeo/Christian Seven Laws of Noah in Simple English +

1) You will not commit Idolatry
2) You will not commit Blasphemy
3) You will not commit Sexual Perversion
4) You wiil not commit Murder
5) You will not commit Theft
6) You will not commit Animal Cruelty
7) You will establish Courts to Enforce these Laws

- Established by God in 2105 B.C.


CONCLUSION: The Seven Laws of Noah are indeed righteous, God-given rules which all mankind should read, learn, study and obey and this means all Christian believers as well. However, by both tradition and Scripture, the Ten Commandments are a fundamental aspect of Christianity which should be both taught and revered among all Christian believers starting from the earliest ages. Moses, not Noah, is the preferred Rabbi to use for any sort of traditional Christian instruction. Also, Christians who take their Bible studies seriously should feel rest assured that, contrary to some believers, many of them hysterical, Jew-hating fanatics, the Seven Laws of Noah are completely compatible with the Christian faith as it has been known since the earliest years of the Church. The Jewish desire to promote the Seven Noahide Laws among non-believers is sincere and has absolutely no 'hidden' anti-Christian motivations. Finally, an additional list of the Seven Laws of Noah have been included below along with the corresponding law found in the 10 Commandments written in parenthesis to the right. This easy reference tool clearly shows all the direct correlations between the the Ten Commandments and the Seven Laws:


Law of Noah (Commandment of God)

1. Idolatry (#1- worship of other gods, #3- Dishonoring the Sabbath day, #10- Envy another's goods)
2. Blasphemy (#2- Using God's Name in vain, #4- Dishonoring parents, #8- Lying)
3. Sexual Perversion (#6- Adultery, #9- Envy another's wife)
4. Murder (#5- Murder)
5. Theft (#7- Stealing)
6. Animal Cruelty (#7- Harming God's creatures is theft)
7. Establish Courts to Enforce these Laws (#8- Determines truth from lies)


God bless Noah, God bless Moses, and may God bless you all. Shalom.
 
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just want to mention the one law is not about animal cruelty
it is
you shall not eat the limbs of live animals
( it was a way to keep fresh the mean of animals -- by eating parts while the animal was kept alive)

I keep this law I prefer to eat the animal after it is properly slaughtered
 
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When one truly understands love, then the commandments of Jesus (Love thy God, Love thy neighbour), make perfect sense against the Ten Commandments and the Commandments of Noah.
 
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Just curious Maccabaeus, are you in an environment where someone is actually preaching the noachide laws to you or your group?

The reason that I wonder is because most modern christians have never heard of them.

And of course, there's the question of why they were even penned as 7 laws when they were mostly covered in the 10 already, and even more than those, in the instruction to "love as I have loved"

Unless there was ulterior motive in the talmud. (tongue in cheek)
 
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Ya makes ya wonder why this is being peddled since most of the world has these
laws already and more, and also court systems.
 
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mule

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The Noahide laws were to be kept by the " strangers " who lived among the hebrews.
Strangers can also be called gentiles.
 
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Some Crucial Facts concerning the Ten Commandments and the Seven Laws of Noah




---> According to Jewish Rabbinical legend, the Seven Laws of Noah were given to Noah and his family of three sons- Shem, Japheth, and Ham immediately after the Great Flood ended in 2105 B.C. However, the primary text for this story, the Book of Genesis, makes absolutely no mention of these Seven Laws except for the general prohibition against murder and the drinking of any blood.

---> Keep in mind the alleged author of Genesis happens Moses, who is said to have personally received the Ten Commandments from God while atop Mt. Sinai. Therefore to suggest that the 10 Commandments was simply an updated, modified, or extended version of the ancient Seven laws of Noah also given to Noah by God, seems highly implausible. Logically speaking, there seems little to no reason to believe Moses would have failed to mention these Seven Noahide laws, if they in fact, they ever existed, and especially if God himself had mentioned them to Noah.

---> Historically speaking, the Seven Laws of Noah have been a basically Jewish concept seldom taken into consideration by the Christian Church. The oldest known source documenting the Seven Laws of Noah is the Jewish Talmud, a post-Christian set of texts, written at least 100 years after Christianity had been established. In contrast, there is far more evidence attesting to the ancient origins of the Ten Commandments, while the sources documenting the Noahide Laws are either scant or nonexistent.

---> From the very beginning of Christianity, the Church has taught that the Ten Commandments of Moses, brought down from Mt. Sinai and written with the very 'finger of God', are eternal laws of God which all Christians are expected to obey or face punishment both in this life and the next. Jesus Christ mentions nearly all the Ten Commandments in the Gospels and reaffirms the need for believers to follow and obey them at all times. There is no direct mention of the Seven Laws of Noah in either the Old or New Testament.

---> When it comes to the Seven Laws of Noah, some Jewish and Christian scholars believe there is evidence that the founding fathers of the Christian Church, most of whom knew Jesus personally, used them as a basis for deciding that Gentile Christians must be circumcised and follow the Laws of the Torah. One source notes the following: 'On the initiative of Peter, and of James, the head of the Jerusalem church, it was agreed that acceptance of the Noachian Laws...should be demanded of the heathen desirous of entering the Church' (Jewish Encyclopedia, New Testament). Keep in mind this understanding of the relationship between Christianity and the Seven Laws of Noah is still a subject of debate even today.

---> On the other hand, the validity of the Ten Commandments has never been a subject of dispute among the vast majority of Christian religious authorities. One of the major sections of the Catechism of the Catholic Church is dedicated exclusively to listing, explaining, and interpreting the Ten Commandments as it relates to the Christian faith of today. Most Protestant Churches believe likewise.


+ The Judeo/Christian Ten Commandments in Simple English +

1. YHVH is the LORD your God. You will have no other gods but Him.
2. You will not use the name of the LORD in vain.
3. You will honor the Sabbath day.
4. You will honor your father and your mother.
5. You will not kill.
6. You will not commit adultery.
7. You will not steal.
8. You will not lie.
9. You will not envy another man's wife.
10. You will not envy another man's property.

- Established by God in 1313 B.C.

_____________________________


+ The Judeo/Christian Seven Laws of Noah in Simple English +

1) You will not commit Idolatry
2) You will not commit Blasphemy
3) You will not commit Sexual Perversion
4) You wiil not commit Murder
5) You will not commit Theft
6) You will not commit Animal Cruelty
7) You will establish Courts to Enforce these Laws

- Established by God in 2105 B.C.


CONCLUSION: The Seven Laws of Noah are indeed righteous, God-given rules which all mankind should read, learn, study and obey and this means all Christian believers as well.

However, by both tradition and Scripture, the Ten Commandments are a fundamental aspect of Christianity which should be both taught and revered among all Christian believers starting from the earliest ages. Moses, not Noah, is the preferred Rabbi to use for any sort of traditional Christian instruction.

Also, Christians who take their Bible studies seriously should feel rest assured that, contrary to some believers, many of them hysterical, Jew-hating fanatics, the Seven Laws of Noah are completely compatible with the Christian faith as it has been known since the earliest years of the Church.


The Jewish desire to promote the Seven Noahide Laws among non-believers is sincere and has absolutely no 'hidden' anti-Christian motivations. Finally, an additional list of the Seven Laws of Noah have been included below along with the corresponding law found in the 10 Commandments written in parenthesis to the right. This easy reference tool clearly shows all the direct correlations between the the Ten Commandments and the Seven Laws:


Law of Noah (Commandment of God)

1. Idolatry (#1- worship of other gods, #3- Dishonoring the Sabbath day, #10- Envy another's goods)
2. Blasphemy (#2- Using God's Name in vain, #4- Dishonoring parents, #8- Lying)
3. Sexual Perversion (#6- Adultery, #9- Envy another's wife)
4. Murder (#5- Murder)
5. Theft (#7- Stealing)
6. Animal Cruelty (#7- Harming God's creatures is theft)
7. Establish Courts to Enforce these Laws (#8- Determines truth from lies)


God bless Noah, God bless Moses, and may God bless you all. Shalom.
IS THIS WHERE WE HIGHLY ESTEEM AND LEARN FROM G-D'S CHOSEN PEOPLE THE JEWS?

Also, Christians who take their Bible studies seriously should feel rest assured that, contrary to some believers, many of them hysterical, Jew-hating fanatics, the Seven Laws of Noah are completely compatible with the Christian faith as it has been known since the earliest years of the Church.

don't do a hit and run, now Maccabaeus; stick around and defend your position.
my guess is the majority here who are already Judaized will remain silent under this SATANIC attack on Jesus Christ (for fear of the jews....as they see your tired old weapon wielded - " hysterical, Jew-hating fanatics").

unfortunately for you, i'm immune to that.

let's see how compatible your trash is with Christianity.
 
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The Noahide laws were to be kept by the " strangers " who lived among the hebrews.
Strangers can also be called gentiles.
you're either in ignorance, or are here to subvert the Christian faith.
some of us have seen this coming.

maybe you need time to think about it.
 
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just want to mention the one law is not about animal cruelty
it is
you shall not eat the limbs of live animals
( it was a way to keep fresh the mean of animals -- by eating parts while the animal was kept alive)

I keep this law I prefer to eat the animal after it is properly slaughtered
i mark you as an enemy of the cross.
perhaps you'll repent.
 
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Some Crucial Facts concerning the Ten Commandments and the Seven Laws of Noah




---> According to Jewish Rabbinical legend, the Seven Laws of Noah were given to Noah and his family of three sons- Shem, Japheth, and Ham immediately after the Great Flood ended in 2105 B.C. However, the primary text for this story, the Book of Genesis, makes absolutely no mention of these Seven Laws except for the general prohibition against murder and the drinking of any blood.

---> Keep in mind the alleged author of Genesis happens Moses, who is said to have personally received the Ten Commandments from God while atop Mt. Sinai. Therefore to suggest that the 10 Commandments was simply an updated, modified, or extended version of the ancient Seven laws of Noah also given to Noah by God, seems highly implausible. Logically speaking, there seems little to no reason to believe Moses would have failed to mention these Seven Noahide laws, if they in fact, they ever existed, and especially if God himself had mentioned them to Noah.

---> Historically speaking, the Seven Laws of Noah have been a basically Jewish concept seldom taken into consideration by the Christian Church. The oldest known source documenting the Seven Laws of Noah is the Jewish Talmud, a post-Christian set of texts, written at least 100 years after Christianity had been established. In contrast, there is far more evidence attesting to the ancient origins of the Ten Commandments, while the sources documenting the Noahide Laws are either scant or nonexistent.

---> From the very beginning of Christianity, the Church has taught that the Ten Commandments of Moses, brought down from Mt. Sinai and written with the very 'finger of God', are eternal laws of God which all Christians are expected to obey or face punishment both in this life and the next. Jesus Christ mentions nearly all the Ten Commandments in the Gospels and reaffirms the need for believers to follow and obey them at all times. There is no direct mention of the Seven Laws of Noah in either the Old or New Testament.

---> When it comes to the Seven Laws of Noah, some Jewish and Christian scholars believe there is evidence that the founding fathers of the Christian Church, most of whom knew Jesus personally, used them as a basis for deciding that Gentile Christians must be circumcised and follow the Laws of the Torah. One source notes the following: 'On the initiative of Peter, and of James, the head of the Jerusalem church, it was agreed that acceptance of the Noachian Laws...should be demanded of the heathen desirous of entering the Church' (Jewish Encyclopedia, New Testament). Keep in mind this understanding of the relationship between Christianity and the Seven Laws of Noah is still a subject of debate even today.

---> On the other hand, the validity of the Ten Commandments has never been a subject of dispute among the vast majority of Christian religious authorities. One of the major sections of the Catechism of the Catholic Church is dedicated exclusively to listing, explaining, and interpreting the Ten Commandments as it relates to the Christian faith of today. Most Protestant Churches believe likewise.


+ The Judeo/Christian Ten Commandments in Simple English +

1. YHVH is the LORD your God. You will have no other gods but Him.
2. You will not use the name of the LORD in vain.
3. You will honor the Sabbath day.
4. You will honor your father and your mother.
5. You will not kill.
6. You will not commit adultery.
7. You will not steal.
8. You will not lie.
9. You will not envy another man's wife.
10. You will not envy another man's property.

- Established by God in 1313 B.C.

_____________________________


+ The Judeo/Christian Seven Laws of Noah in Simple English +

1) You will not commit Idolatry
2) You will not commit Blasphemy
3) You will not commit Sexual Perversion
4) You wiil not commit Murder
5) You will not commit Theft
6) You will not commit Animal Cruelty
7) You will establish Courts to Enforce these Laws

- Established by God in 2105 B.C.


CONCLUSION: The Seven Laws of Noah are indeed righteous, God-given rules which all mankind should read, learn, study and obey and this means all Christian believers as well. However, by both tradition and Scripture, the Ten Commandments are a fundamental aspect of Christianity which should be both taught and revered among all Christian believers starting from the earliest ages. Moses, not Noah, is the preferred Rabbi to use for any sort of traditional Christian instruction. Also, Christians who take their Bible studies seriously should feel rest assured that, contrary to some believers, many of them hysterical, Jew-hating fanatics, the Seven Laws of Noah are completely compatible with the Christian faith as it has been known since the earliest years of the Church. The Jewish desire to promote the Seven Noahide Laws among non-believers is sincere and has absolutely no 'hidden' anti-Christian motivations. Finally, an additional list of the Seven Laws of Noah have been included below along with the corresponding law found in the 10 Commandments written in parenthesis to the right. This easy reference tool clearly shows all the direct correlations between the the Ten Commandments and the Seven Laws:


Law of Noah (Commandment of God)

1. Idolatry (#1- worship of other gods, #3- Dishonoring the Sabbath day, #10- Envy another's goods)
2. Blasphemy (#2- Using God's Name in vain, #4- Dishonoring parents, #8- Lying)
3. Sexual Perversion (#6- Adultery, #9- Envy another's wife)
4. Murder (#5- Murder)
5. Theft (#7- Stealing)
6. Animal Cruelty (#7- Harming God's creatures is theft)
7. Establish Courts to Enforce these Laws (#8- Determines truth from lies)


God bless Noah, God bless Moses, and may God bless you all. Shalom.
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A Basic Summary of the Seven Laws of Noah Versus the Ten Commandments of God
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"In truth, very little is really known about the original creation of the eye of the pyramid and its inclusion on the backside of the Great Seal of the United States of America. Even less is known about how much Freemasonry was actually involved in the final symbol. Nevertheless, readers should take note that Benjamin Franklin, a known Freemason and skeptic, first recommended having a portrait of the Hebrews fleeing the Pharaoh and his army, even though the eagle and the eye of the pyramid were eventually adopted as the official Seal. With that in mind, it seems most probable that the Founding Fathers also saw the Eye of the Pyramid as far more of a Judeo-Christian (Hebrew), rather than Egyptian and/or Pagan symbol.


THE STAR OF DAVID
In sum, numerous years of thorough research, along with at least a small amount of common sense, reveals that the only conspiracy behind the Eye of the Pyramid is a thoroughly Judeo-Christian puzzle that is quite easy to solve. Seen carefully, the missing top of the pyramid where the all-seeing eye rests is at the exact same level as that of a triangle which, when combined with another inverted triangle, creates the Star of David, the Hexagram, also known as the Joshua Star. Contrary to the delusions of some paranoid, and misinformed believers, the Star of David is not an occult symbol at all, but a 3,000 year old family emblem which includes Rabbi Joshua ben Joseph (Jesus Christ) and his parents St. Joseph and St. Mary, as a part of that royal family.

Thus, the American people, along with all God-fearing people and families who believe in the Judeo-Christian tradition have absolutely nothing to fear when it comes to the eyes of the pyramid. Indeed, everyone should feel reassured that the eye above and the eye below the pyramid are basically two parts of a symbolic tradition that can be found hidden throughout the Holy Bible and which is distinctly Hebrew in its earliest origins. In reality, the Star of David is a genuine Biblical ikon having very little, if any, Pagan influences. Thus, it should not come as a surprise to find that combining both the eye above and the eye below together (taking an eye for an eye, so to speak) creates none other than the Star of David."

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The Delegation of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews and the Chief Rabbinate of Israel's Delegation for Relations with the Catholic Church -- Bilateral Commission Meeting,

Jerusalem, March 11-13, 2007; Adar 21-23, 5767


1. At the seventh meeting of the above commission, held in Jerusalem, the chairmen Cardinal Jorge Mejía and Chief Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen noted the significance of the number seven within the biblical tradition as indicating fullness and maturity. They expressed the hope that the fullness of the relationship between the Catholic and the Jewish members of this commission will be a source of blessing to both faith communities and the world at large.

Cardinal Mejía also noted the recent passing of Cardinal Johannes Willebrands former president of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews and a central figure in the historic transformation in Catholic-Jewish relations. May his memory always be for us a blessing.

2. The subject of the meeting was the "Freedom of Religion and Conscience and its Limits." The human capacity to choose is a manifestation of the divine image in which all people are created (cf. Gen 1:26-27) and is foundational for the biblical concept of human responsibility and divine justice (cf. Deut 30:19).

3. God has created the human person as a social being which, by definition, places limits on individual human freedom. Moreover freedom of choice is derived from God and therefore is not absolute, but must reflect divine will and law. Accordingly human beings are called to freely obey the divine will as manifested in Creation and in his revealed word.

Jewish tradition emphasizes the Noachide Covenant (cf. Gen 9:9-12) as containing the universal moral code which is incumbent on all humanity. This idea is reflected in Christian scripture in the book of Acts 15:28-29.

4. Accordingly the idea of moral relativism is antithetical to this religious worldview and poses a serious threat to humanity. Even though the Enlightenment helped bring about a purification from the abuse of religion, secular society still requires religious foundations to sustain lasting moral values. Critical among these is the principal of the sanctity of human life and dignity. Ethical monotheism affirms these as inviolable human rights and therefore can provide inspiration in this regard for society at large.


5. While on principle the state should not at all limit freedom of religion for individuals and communities nor of moral conscience, it has the responsibility to guarantee the wellbeing and security of society. Accordingly it is obliged to intervene wherever and whenever a threat is posed by the promotion, teaching or exercise of violence and specifically terrorism and psychological manipulation in the name of religion.

6. In addition to respecting the freedom of religious choices, the integrity of faith communities should also be guaranteed. Accordingly it is legitimate for a society with a predominant religious identity to preserve its character, as long as this does not limit the freedom of minority communities and individuals to profess their alternative religious commitments, nor to limit their full civil rights and status as citizens, individuals and communities. This obliges us all to safeguard the integrity and dignity of holy sites, places of worship and cemeteries of all religious communities.

7. In the course of history, religious communities have not always been faithful to these values. Therefore there is a special obligation upon religious leaders and communities to prevent the improper use of religion and to educate towards respect for diversity which is essential in order to ensure a healthy, stable and peaceful society.

In this regard, there is a special role for families, schools and the authorities of state and society as well as the media to impart these values to future generations.

In conclusion the bilateral commission having met in the Holy City of Jerusalem, expressed the prayer that the Almighty would bless and inspire both religious and political leaders in the region and beyond, to work determinedly to promote peace, dignity, security and tranquility in the Holy Land for all its peoples and for the world as a whole.

Jerusalem,
March 13, 2007 -- Adar 23, 5767

Chief Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen
(Chairman of the Jewish Delegation)

Chief Rabbi Ratson Arussi
Chief Rabbi Yossef Azran

Chief Rabbi David Brodman
Chief Rabbi David Rosen
Mr. Oded Wiener

Jorge Cardinal Mejía
(Chairman of the Catholic Delegation)

Cardinal Georges Cottier
Archbishop Antonio Ortega Franco

Archbishop Elias Chacour
Bishop Giacinto-Boulos Marcuzzo

Monsignor Pier Francesco Fumagalli
Father Norbert J. Hofmann S.D.B.

Bilateral Commission Meeting, Jerusalem, March 11-13, 2007; Adar 21-23, 5767
 
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i mark you as an enemy of the cross.
perhaps you'll repent.
Who are you to 'mark' anyone?

Please tell me where God grants you such assured righteousness and power over another professed believer.

Only God knows this man's heart. Only God can be a righteous judge.
 
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Who are you to 'mark' anyone?

Please tell me where God grants you such assured righteousness and power over another professed believer.

Only God knows this man's heart. Only God can be a righteous judge.
Romans 16 17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

if you think the obscene and antichrist noahide laws brought in by godless judaism and freemasonry are sound doctrine, by all means fellowship with darkness.
 
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Cenallen, the 7 laws reiterate the Ten Commandments. And vice versa.

Can you please post the whole script containing the part you just used?

I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.

These are talking about people who try to suck others into hateful doctrine. And we are to steadfast and be wise about goodness,and innocent about evil.

My wisdom tells me, by reading Jesus commandments, Moses' 10, and Noah's 7, they are all saying the same things.
 
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Jesus was never hateful to anybody with an opinion, only to those who were sure they were right; the Pharisees.
 
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They liked to judge and exalt themselves above others.
 
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Cenallen, the 7 laws reiterate the Ten Commandments. And vice versa.

Can you please post the whole script containing the part you just used?

I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.

These are talking about people who try to suck others into hateful doctrine. And we are to steadfast and be wise about goodness,and innocent about evil.

My wisdom tells me, by reading Jesus commandments, Moses' 10, and Noah's 7, they are all saying the same things.
your wisdom needs help.
you couldn't be more wrong.


i'll expand on these 7 laws.
 
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In Judaism, the Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎ Sheva mitzvot B'nei Noach) form the major part of the Noachide Laws, or Noahide Code.[1] This code is a set of moral imperatives that, according to the Talmud, were given by God[2] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" – that is, all of mankind.[3][4] According to religious Judaism, any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as a righteous gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.[5][6] Adherents are often called "B'nei Noach" (Children of Noah) or "Noahides" and may often network in Jewish synagogues.[citation needed]

The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are[7]

Prohibition of Idolatry
Prohibition of Murder
Prohibition of Theft
Prohibition of Sexual immorality
Prohibition of Blasphemy
Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
Establishment of courts of law


Punishment

The Talmud laid down the statutory punishment for transgressing any one of the Seven Laws of Noah (but not other parts of the Noahide code) as capital punishment [23] by decapitation, which is considered one of the lightest[24] of the four modes of execution of criminals. According to some opinions, punishment is the same whether the individual transgresses with knowledge of the law or is ignorant of the law.[25]

Christianity and the Noahide Laws

Christian views on the old covenant vary. Most Christian denominations incorporate the Ten Commandments, the Great Commandment, and The Golden Rule, however some believe in the complete Abrogation of Old Covenant laws. The only Noahide law that is not part of the standard moral teaching of mainstream Christianity is the prohibition against eating the flesh of an animal while it is still alive (number 6 above). By many interpretations, Acts and the Pauline Epistles make clear that the Jewish dietary laws as a whole are not binding on gentile Christians, though the Apostolic Decree which is still observed by the Orthodox includes some food restrictions.[30]
The 18th-century Rabbi Jacob Emden proposed that Jesus, and Paul after him, intended to convert the Gentiles to the Noahide laws while allowing the Jews to follow full Mosaic Law.[31]

Noahide laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


so Mediate, can you find anywhere in Christ's teachings a commandment to establish courts of Law headed by the Sanhedrin, wherein people who break the 7 Talmudic Laws are decapitated?

capital punishment [23] by decapitation"
 
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Jesus was never hateful to anybody with an opinion, only to those who were sure they were right; the Pharisees.
The sages of the Talmud see a direct link between themselves and the Pharisees, and historians generally consider Pharisaic Judaism to be the progenitor of Rabbinic Judaism, that is normative, mainstream Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple. All mainstream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.

Pharisees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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An Introduction to the Noahide Nazarene Way

If you've been trying find "biblical religion" but feel like there is something essential missing (and/or too many things added); if you've noticed how fundamentally different Nicene Christianity (i.e. standard Christianity based on the Catholic Nicene and "Apostles" Creeds) is from biblical doctrine; if you've been disappointed by the Noahide Movements feeling that something essential is missing; and/or have discovered that most of the so-called Messianic groups are little more than Nicene Christians concealed beneath a tallit and kippa... then these studies could provide some very useful information for you! That's our only goal here.

Temple and Yeshiva Beth HaShem are part of a growing independent minded movement of authentic, monotheistic, Messianic Jews and Noahides Nazarenes. Our goal is to encourage sincere Bible Believers to explore the Hebraic foundations of Rebbe Y'shua's teachings....

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HaShem's Order for the World

The Jews (or Shemites) are ordained by HaShem in the Torah to be the priests of the earth.

CJB: Exodus 19:5 Now if you will pay careful attention to what I say and keep my covenant, then you will be my own treasure from among all the peoples, for all the earth is mine;
6 and you will be a kingdom of cohanim [priests] for me, a nation set apart.'These are the words you are to speak to the people of Isra'el."

This is the eternal obligation of the Jewish people. To facilitate this they were given the 613 Mitzvot or Laws. Most of these Laws do not now nor have they ever been applicable to non-Jews. We Gentiles have never been "under the Law" in this context.

The descendants of Japheth are commanded to bless Am Israel (the Jewish people) and to assist them and learn from them. To facilitate this we were given the Seven Laws (see below).

The descendants of Ham are to serve both the Japhethites and the Shemites so that together the three families of the Earth can attain harmony with HaShem our Elohiym. These people are also required by Adonai to observe the Seven Laws.

Unfortunately these biblically mandated responsibilities have not been followed by any of the three principle people groups (Romans 11:32):

Part 3: Free Will and the Seven Universal Laws: An Introduction to the Way of Y'shua
 
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The last law is to enforce the other laws by court.

Most courts do enforce all the other (7) laws.