Onlinebuddy, I cannot say I was saved at birth, I only know that I have loved and looked to Jesus from my earlyest memories.
So the term saved at birth, I agree should not used in this way.
But one must also consider if a child belongs to God in Jesus at birth, not by their own recognition, but by His mercy.
But do not discount the love a child can have for Jesus even though very young, for we are called by Gods love, He has called us all with His everlasting love.
The thing is, in the grand greatness of all that is given to us in Jesus Christ is Lord, the when is not what matters or is mesured.
What matters is we do recieve Him, and love Him, dying with Him and living in His spirit.
For salvation is not of mesure, but eternal and for all who believe on Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
God bless
pickles
So the term saved at birth, I agree should not used in this way.
But one must also consider if a child belongs to God in Jesus at birth, not by their own recognition, but by His mercy.
But do not discount the love a child can have for Jesus even though very young, for we are called by Gods love, He has called us all with His everlasting love.
The thing is, in the grand greatness of all that is given to us in Jesus Christ is Lord, the when is not what matters or is mesured.
What matters is we do recieve Him, and love Him, dying with Him and living in His spirit.
For salvation is not of mesure, but eternal and for all who believe on Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
God bless
pickles
I loved reading about your childhood interactions with Jesus.
I agree that a child- who is not in a position to choose or reject God, and who cannot repent on his own volition- will never be condemned by God.
However, I am not asking if a child is saved or not!
My question is simply: Can we say that we are saved at birth?
You have said that we should not say that we are saved at birth, and I agree with you.
However, there are too many people on CC who write that they are saved at birth or at creation.
You yourself have mentioned that you were saved "all my life." That kind of baffles me.
I'm sure you have a good reason for believing this, but I would like to know your ideology, if you don't mind.
Blessings!