Jesus' wife gospel.

[narnian]

What do you guys think about all these hype about the discovery of the papyrus scrap in which they claim that Jesus speaks of his own wife and appears to confirm her role as a recognised disciple.
It has been scrutnized by scholars across the world, however the Harvard professor who studied the papyrus claims it is authentic and can change the role of women in the church.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

I....am going to wait and see. Others have been claimed by experts to be authentic, only to later be proven as scams.

 

[jimmydiggs]

It's a Gnostic writing

Get Ready for A Wave of Gnostic Looniness Once Again <-- click for more

 

[celestemekent]

Dont know enough about it obviously if it uses the word Jesus it is a fraud because he was not known as Jesus during his lifetime. If it uses Yeshua or some other derivative it could apply to anyone with that name. It is far too early to know for sure what this piece of papyrus is.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

I think the most simple and truthful explanation is automatically overlooked.

Either:
1. It is a non-inspired or deceitful piece of writing, or a mistranslation from another doc that said "bride"
2. Jesus was accurate in using the word "wife", while making a statement far into the future about his "betrothed" or "bride", after the wedding feast. The document does go on to say that "she will be able to be my disciple" which illudes to the church.

Just take it as "bride", prophecy, or forgery, rather than the possibility that He physically married Mary M.

 

[RickShafer]

It's just another phoney baloney claim made by the satanic contingency
that runs the world and it's airwaves.
At least three cable channels spend their time in little else
than propagating gnostic heresies.
Anything on Nat.Geo., Discovery, or the other channel which I can't think of concerning
Jesus or the early church or the old testament are noxious liberal theologic drivel

 

[A-Omega]

It has very credibility among scholars or from a theological standpoint. This article breaks explains its numerous flaws as well as the discoverer's mistakes in the past with the Gospel of Judas.

The Gospel Of Jesus' Wife Debunked: A Critical Analysis | Beginning And End

 

[kenisyes]

Didn't you see the "DaVinci Code"? For over a thousand years, a group of people in southern France have claimed to be the descendants of Jesus through His wife, Mary Magdalene. There have been many other books about this group. There are several gnostic writings that have made this claim since around 200AD or so. Those are wrong, so this one is too.

I remember a supposedly valid will of Jesus found at Masada, written just before the Romans stormed the fortress. It was supposedly being safeguarded by the communist Soviet Union back in the day. What I read is that many of our scholars believed that one too. If it were true (of course it's not), it would prove Jesus did not die on the cross, but lived to fight in 70AD.

What do you think Jesus did between age 12 and age 30 when He started His public ministry? In Jewish culture, marriage was expected. It's pretty clear He did not have a wife, or children during His ministry. Do you think He avoided the expected? How did He explain it to those around Him?

 

[WolfInOxHide]

What do you think Jesus did between age 12 and age 30 when He started His public ministry? In Jewish culture, marriage was expected. It's pretty clear He did not have a wife, or children during His ministry. Do you think He avoided the expected? How did He explain it to those around Him?

Very good point. Jewish men were permitted to marry at 12 or 14 (can't remember), and certainly expected to have wives by the age of 20, the age one is ready for military service. The next age brackets are traditionally 30 for a priest and 40 for an elder.
A priest could only have one wife, and Y'Shua has a virgin bride set aside for that.

 

[mule]

First -- the gospels are not a biography of Jesus life with us. It is a testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The events it testifies to is to show us how He fulfilled prophecy and the law and why this is PROOF He is Messiah.
Why would God manifest Himself in the flesh in the person of Jesus and marry a daughter of man.
He knew that He was going to be crucified. He isn't a respecter of person.
People want Jesus to be just a man, having him married to Mary would be proof that Jesus was nothing more than a good teacher or even perhaps a prophet but certainly not God with us.

 

[joshhuntnm]

I ran across this blog post » What Pastors Need to Know about the fragment of

 

[onlinebuddy]

The High Priest is in the process of perfecting his bride. He will come back someday to fetch her.

 

[Laodicea]

Revelation 21:9-10 KJV
(9) And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
(10) And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

 

[carolineh]

What do you guys think about all these hype about the discovery of the papyrus scrap in which they claim that Jesus speaks of his own wife and appears to confirm her role as a recognised disciple.
It has been scrutnized by scholars across the world, however the Harvard professor who studied the papyrus claims it is authentic and can change the role of women in the church.

the church is the only bride of Jesus...Jesus was a common name back in the time that Jesus was here..how silly of those scholars not to realize that fact

 

[Trax]

What do you guys think about all these hype about the discovery of the papyrus scrap in which they claim that Jesus speaks of his own wife and appears to confirm her role as a recognised disciple.
It has been scrutnized by scholars across the world, however the Harvard professor who studied the papyrus claims it is authentic and can change the role of women in the church.

You know what else was written on papyrus? Jesus saying no one comes to the Father except
through Him. Does the world flock to that? No, they don't. There was false doctrine going around
even in Paul's day. The Apostles had to go and refute and clear up bad teachings. If bad teaching
got wrote down and someone finds it many years later, its plausable. So, you have to ask yourself, if taking a wife, and a man and woman becoming "one flesh", how was Jesus then sinless to pay for sins?
Its just a platform for carnal humans to justify living their life, how they see fit, and preach "all paths
lead to heaven." As the apostosy grows as we get closer to the end of this age, I expect to see
many such things come out. This is what seperates the goats from the sheep. The faithful will remain
faithful and the faithless will be further removed.

 

[carolineh]

You know what else was written on papyrus? Jesus saying no one comes to the Father except
through Him. Does the world flock to that? No, they don't. There was false doctrine going around
even in Paul's day. The Apostles had to go and refute and clear up bad teachings. If bad teaching
got wrote down and someone finds it many years later, its plausable. So, you have to ask yourself, if taking a wife, and a man and woman becoming "one flesh", how was Jesus then sinless to pay for sins?
Its just a platform for carnal humans to justify living their life, how they see fit, and preach "all paths
lead to heaven." As the apostosy grows as we get closer to the end of this age, I expect to see
many such things come out. This is what seperates the goats from the sheep. The faithful will remain
faithful and the faithless will be further removed.

I am in full agreement with you on this and I would like to reiterate that Jesus was a very common name back then so the writing about Jesus having a wife could have been any Jesus but certainly not the Lord

 

[megaman125]

What do you guys think about all these hype about the discovery of the papyrus scrap in which they claim that Jesus speaks of his own wife and appears to confirm her role as a recognised disciple.
It has been scrutnized by scholars across the world, however the Harvard professor who studied the papyrus claims it is authentic and can change the role of women in the church.

The paper had 14 words on it. That's not nearly enough to get any sort of valid context. Heck, for all we know, it could have been referring the Christ's bride, the church.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

The paper had 14 words on it. That's not nearly enough to get any sort of valid context. Heck, for all we know, it could have been referring the Christ's bride, the church.

Yeah I saw the full translation of it and you can make it say anything you want. Even to the opposite effect of what's portrayed.

I tried my best to research that word "my wife" in that language, and it more literally is "my woman", but there appears to have been the understanding that "my woman" meant wife.

However, there is a situation with these ancient languages, in the fact that they usually didn't have a word for "bride". And your betrothed, or bride, would be referred to as "wife" even before the wedding night.

It even looks pretty easy to make that script appear to be the disciples questioning Him as to why don't he marry Mary. Doesn't seem far fetched to me since they didn't understand a lot of things about Him and asked Him several questions that He responded cleverly to. He could have been saying that He has a wife assigned to Him already, and that Mary instead would become His disciple.

So there, lady with the parchment, We didn't even whip out the "canon" and shot you down until you find the rest of your doc. Then We'll break out the "canon."

I'm surprised the Vatican hasn't noticed the "my mother gave me life" part of it yet. Shhh.

 

[loveme1]

The evil Rebellion will try anything to deceive the "elect" because they seek to be gods and believe lucifer is helping them achieve this.

Our Spirit knows better than their lies.

 

[Katy-follower]

Why would God manifest Himself in the flesh in the person of Jesus and marry a daughter of man. He knew that He was going to be crucified. People want Jesus to be just a man, having him married to Mary would be proof that Jesus was nothing more than a good teacher or even perhaps a prophet but certainly not God with us.

Well said

This is just another deception of Satan. He's getting desperate and clutching at whatever he can now. We know things will continue to escalate in the last days..