Jesus is a God of conditional Love, not unconditional love.
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Here on the Fathers kingdom New Jerusalem even the Fathers love is conditional
Revelation 22:14-15 (KJV)
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
These people won't be in The Father's kingdom
I wonder why he don't love these people?
Is it because they broke the conditions of his words?
Revelation 22:14-15 (KJV)
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
These people won't be in The Father's kingdom
I wonder why he don't love these people?
Is it because they broke the conditions of his words?
Actually B
I have a relationship with The Lord and his Father because I keep the conditions of his word
Lets read about the LOve that is required by us toward God and the Love that he will return
John 14:21 (KJV)
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
It's not stubbornness B it's two thongs
understanding what love is
Staying away from emotions which is denominational doctrine
I have a relationship with The Lord and his Father because I keep the conditions of his word
Lets read about the LOve that is required by us toward God and the Love that he will return
John 14:21 (KJV)
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
It's not stubbornness B it's two thongs
understanding what love is
Staying away from emotions which is denominational doctrine
C
ozell, I pondered this more and saw how this may all be about How God chooses us to see.
For scripture says, some are called to serve through mercy, understanding, thus making a differance.
Some are called to serve through rightousness, thus pulling from the fire, despising the flesh that clings.
For with God all things are possible.
Jesus said, I do not give as the world gives.
Some are to see the comandments as the requirements of God's love.
So as to save from the fire.
Some, like me, see the commandments as God's gift of love.
Like the parent who gives these rules to keep their child from falling, or being consumed by evil.
The thing is, the result is the same, saving us through His comandments, and providing to us the means and way(Jesus) to do so, even if we sometimes fail.
Like the parent who is ready to save you from your own destruction.
I will always see in Jesus, God Our Fathers love as unconditional, simply because from our very creation to His commandments. all as His loving gift.
But I am willing as well to look through your eyes, seeing His commandments as a requirement of His love.
Not nessasarily because I agree, but because with God, all things are possible.
May we always give all things unto the Lord, for He is the way, truth and light we seek and love .
Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh!
God bless
pickles
For scripture says, some are called to serve through mercy, understanding, thus making a differance.
Some are called to serve through rightousness, thus pulling from the fire, despising the flesh that clings.
For with God all things are possible.
Jesus said, I do not give as the world gives.
Some are to see the comandments as the requirements of God's love.
So as to save from the fire.
Some, like me, see the commandments as God's gift of love.
Like the parent who gives these rules to keep their child from falling, or being consumed by evil.
The thing is, the result is the same, saving us through His comandments, and providing to us the means and way(Jesus) to do so, even if we sometimes fail.
Like the parent who is ready to save you from your own destruction.
I will always see in Jesus, God Our Fathers love as unconditional, simply because from our very creation to His commandments. all as His loving gift.
But I am willing as well to look through your eyes, seeing His commandments as a requirement of His love.
Not nessasarily because I agree, but because with God, all things are possible.
May we always give all things unto the Lord, for He is the way, truth and light we seek and love .
Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh!
God bless
pickles
No i don't beleive you do, or at least not a very good one because we dont build our relationship with god by just Obeying his commands. When we love him and know he loves us no matter what we try to obey his commands out of love. And by the way Ozel saying god is a god of conditional love and teaching false teachings like you do is not only not obeying his commands but is calling him a lier.
C
Ozell,
Are we not suppose to testify of our Savior? To those who were delivered from drugs, they proclaim their Savior from such to those who they once were a part of. To those who were of a head salvation only, they proclaim God alive. And to each, we are to proclaim deliverance. birds of the same feather flocks together. Who knows the mind of the same flock if not those who were delivered from it. Brother, we all have our own testimony proclaiming Christ as Savior of our souls.
Are we not suppose to testify of our Savior? To those who were delivered from drugs, they proclaim their Savior from such to those who they once were a part of. To those who were of a head salvation only, they proclaim God alive. And to each, we are to proclaim deliverance. birds of the same feather flocks together. Who knows the mind of the same flock if not those who were delivered from it. Brother, we all have our own testimony proclaiming Christ as Savior of our souls.
It's obvious you have not read the parable of the sower of the seed
Lets read
Why The Lord has not exact punishment on all of us who have sinned
Matthew 13:30 (KJV)
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Lets read
Why The Lord has not exact punishment on all of us who have sinned
Matthew 13:30 (KJV)
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
well Ozel i have read that parable, but i also know who god is because i have met him. Not in the way you would meet a person but he revealed himself to me and i knew exactly who he was and beleiev me if you ever meet him you will want to die and go home with him in that instant. He is not a god of wrath and judgment
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John 3:16, God so love the world...but when you read further on in John 15 you find that, those who keep His commandments, him the Father and Son will love and will stay with him. Now these are two different loves and the second has a condition. Surely those who walk the way of the cross everyday , by the Spirits power, are special to God.