Jesus is a God of conditional Love, not unconditional love.
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Brother how can you know Jesus when you don't read what is said about him
Pay close attention to what is said here
1 John 2:3-5 (KJV)
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. [5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Without keeping the commandments they is no way you or any one know God
Pay close attention to what is said here
1 John 2:3-5 (KJV)
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. [5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Without keeping the commandments they is no way you or any one know God
Blain
Keep your prayers to those who need them
Brother I do know where you are coming from and what you and those who think like you are Protestants you bring a denominational doctrine to the table which is the product of man.
You belong to groups who teach that the commandments are done away with
What you all who think like you are really saying is it is ok to have a God before Jesus
You are saying it is ok to take the name of Jesus in vain, you are staying that it is ok to tell people to bow down to the god of Islam, Hindu, Buddha, etc
You ate telling me to kill, steal, commit adultery, lie. Do not keep the sabbath holy and to covet .
Brother I was in that denomination doctrine 20 years ago and I thank God that I had someone to tell me to read God's word and check the history of the Protestant, RCC and Orthodox Church and doctrine
I want people who keep Jesus commandments to pray for me not those who don't
Keep your prayers to those who need them
Brother I do know where you are coming from and what you and those who think like you are Protestants you bring a denominational doctrine to the table which is the product of man.
You belong to groups who teach that the commandments are done away with
What you all who think like you are really saying is it is ok to have a God before Jesus
You are saying it is ok to take the name of Jesus in vain, you are staying that it is ok to tell people to bow down to the god of Islam, Hindu, Buddha, etc
You ate telling me to kill, steal, commit adultery, lie. Do not keep the sabbath holy and to covet .
Brother I was in that denomination doctrine 20 years ago and I thank God that I had someone to tell me to read God's word and check the history of the Protestant, RCC and Orthodox Church and doctrine
I want people who keep Jesus commandments to pray for me not those who don't
JAMES 2:10
For whosoever keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
No man can be holy and unholy at the same time.
The commandment is holy, which points to that which is unholy, unjust, and evil. If a man live and die on this side, he is ready for the Master’s kingdom
(MATH.25:34).
Sin is unholy, unjust, and evil. If a man live and die on this side, he becomes fuel for the fire
(MATH.25:41).
For whosoever keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
No man can be holy and unholy at the same time.
The commandment is holy, which points to that which is unholy, unjust, and evil. If a man live and die on this side, he is ready for the Master’s kingdom
(MATH.25:34).
Sin is unholy, unjust, and evil. If a man live and die on this side, he becomes fuel for the fire
(MATH.25:41).
LOL im sorry this just made me laugh! first off god is Jesus and i am not telling you to do anything and especailly all you say i am. And you know nothing of the commandmants i keep or don't and i belong to a group yes its called the children of god group. You call me brother yet you say these things about me but you cannot say you keep all the commandments because everyone sins. But seriously i know this should have upset me but i just think its funny
Everyone is God's child. Not everyone is an obedient child. But what do we do with a disobedient child? Set them straight.
God has a way of doing this much better than any of us. He can show us our minds against his truth. He will put our lives in his mirror. God's image is what we were made in.
Remember this; whoever sins condemns HIMSELF
When you are resurrected and go to God, He'll be able to show you His total way. His truth. His love. And you will see your life, and if you truly are not sorry for your ways, truly do not say 'wow I was stupid', then you would realise your error instatly and throw YOURSELF into destruction.
God only needs to show us the truth of it.
But this is the majestic love of God; that in seeing truth, nobody will be proud, or rebellious. Before the awe of God, before this revelation, every man will see the sacrafice God made for thr world, and truly praise. Every knee and tongue, of their own free will saying 'what an infinitely beautiful God this is. I am not worthy one bit. Thank you'.
In life, what we strive to do, is to be last. Because that is how it will be in heaven. ALL things under God, willingly.
Surrounded by his revelation and his love.
God will have every single lost sheep. Such is his love.
The believers challenge is not to become haughty and pharasaic, saying ' they dont deserve it, i am better than them'.
Humility is a lesson many people truly are yet to learn.
God has a way of doing this much better than any of us. He can show us our minds against his truth. He will put our lives in his mirror. God's image is what we were made in.
Remember this; whoever sins condemns HIMSELF
When you are resurrected and go to God, He'll be able to show you His total way. His truth. His love. And you will see your life, and if you truly are not sorry for your ways, truly do not say 'wow I was stupid', then you would realise your error instatly and throw YOURSELF into destruction.
God only needs to show us the truth of it.
But this is the majestic love of God; that in seeing truth, nobody will be proud, or rebellious. Before the awe of God, before this revelation, every man will see the sacrafice God made for thr world, and truly praise. Every knee and tongue, of their own free will saying 'what an infinitely beautiful God this is. I am not worthy one bit. Thank you'.
In life, what we strive to do, is to be last. Because that is how it will be in heaven. ALL things under God, willingly.
Surrounded by his revelation and his love.
God will have every single lost sheep. Such is his love.
The believers challenge is not to become haughty and pharasaic, saying ' they dont deserve it, i am better than them'.
Humility is a lesson many people truly are yet to learn.
The truth is, God wants the unbelievers. The blind. the lame. The lost. The harlots. The addicts. The pained. The sorrowed. Even the evil. He wills that all be joined unto hom in heaven. Some will have more affliction and pain in being revealed than others. Some will suffer more with confusion, guilt and mental anguish than others. But the blind will see. The deaf will hear. And every last sheep, and you can count on it, will be found.
'He was blind 'did not see' and Jesus took mud of the earth 'teaching of the world' and rubbed it in his eyes 'showed him his error' and the man saw.
Jesus comes to heal the blind.
'He was blind 'did not see' and Jesus took mud of the earth 'teaching of the world' and rubbed it in his eyes 'showed him his error' and the man saw.
Jesus comes to heal the blind.
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WOW, HOW can all of you be wrong! YES, I mean , all of you are wrong. AND, all of you are right,in some part of what you are saying, NOW, when will someone put the two sides together, and become RIGHT? NO< I am not crazy, I'm RIGHT. Repentance ,faith, works, holiness, killing the old sin nature,"flesh" within us; all of these are conditions of salvation. "he that endures to the end ,will be saved" is a condition of salvation. Bearing I's cross, daily, is a condition of salvation. HOW, can all this be said by God and people not see it. I will tell you why, the spirit of deception,is greater every day, that God has sent to the Church/church today, because Christians/christians will not receive, love, the Whole, truth of God's word. Please study, 2Tim2:22-26 2Thess.2:9-13.Love to all. Hoffco
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God's grace and salvation is open for ALL who will accept it, but yes, there are conditions to eternal life with Him. You must first believe that Jesus is the son of God, born of a virgin, died on the cross and shed his blood for your sins, rose again and is a living Saviour at the right hand of God interceding for us, and will come back again as a Judge. You must also repent, confess your sins and be baptized with water and with spirit. You must also turn yourself away from sin, as the Bible says no sin will enter Heaven. Okay, we all are imperfect and have shortcomings and sins, but what this means is not "living in those sins". We must love the Lord our God with all our heart, minds, souls and strength, and our neighbour as ourselves.
Yes, God's love was unconditional for us as He gave his only begotten Son to die for us, but we must have faith and obedience to Him as well. Before we knew Him he loved us, and this is unconditional. And this is where Grace comes in. If we weren't good enough to obtain salvation on our own strength, we certainly are not good enough to KEEP salvation with our works. This is Grace, that when he fail and sin and fall short of the calling of God, Jesus's blood covers us.
I often think that if God loved me as much as I love my children, I would be OK. I have an unconditional love for my children, and there isn't anything I wouldn't do for them. God is the same. However, the Bible does state that God is a jealous God. He does not want us to love or serve anything more than Him, and this is not just idols, this is sin. If we put anything before God, it is an idol. So yes, his love is unconditional. He says ALL who thirst come to me. All ye that are heavy laden. The invitation is unconditional for EVERYONE.... but He also requires faith and obedience. It is clear that not ALL people will go to Heaven. If God did not have conditions and instructions in the Bible how to live and how to get to Heaven, then yes, ALL people would be saved. But sadly, that is not true.
Yes, God's love was unconditional for us as He gave his only begotten Son to die for us, but we must have faith and obedience to Him as well. Before we knew Him he loved us, and this is unconditional. And this is where Grace comes in. If we weren't good enough to obtain salvation on our own strength, we certainly are not good enough to KEEP salvation with our works. This is Grace, that when he fail and sin and fall short of the calling of God, Jesus's blood covers us.
I often think that if God loved me as much as I love my children, I would be OK. I have an unconditional love for my children, and there isn't anything I wouldn't do for them. God is the same. However, the Bible does state that God is a jealous God. He does not want us to love or serve anything more than Him, and this is not just idols, this is sin. If we put anything before God, it is an idol. So yes, his love is unconditional. He says ALL who thirst come to me. All ye that are heavy laden. The invitation is unconditional for EVERYONE.... but He also requires faith and obedience. It is clear that not ALL people will go to Heaven. If God did not have conditions and instructions in the Bible how to live and how to get to Heaven, then yes, ALL people would be saved. But sadly, that is not true.
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There are many conditions written. God is not going to tolerate Evil and sin, and total disregard for His words.
John 14:15-31
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
A little word if, but its a big condition.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; etc
John 14:15-31
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
A little word if, but its a big condition.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; etc
Yet is it something to take as an occasion for the flesh, ignore, or else how shall we escape, if we do not appreciate this amazing grace from God?
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Yep by his death Christ accomplished this to God for us, if we believe God and stay steadfast in belief, God by this and then the resurrection, where we are made alive with God, we are saved and do as God says and does just as Jesus did being led by God, the Holy Ghost.
Colossians 1:22
in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
[h=3]Colossians 1:23 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h]
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[SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
So stay steadfast and be dead to sin and alive to God, by being dead to sin
Romans 6:2
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
1 Peter 2:24 who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Yep by his death Christ accomplished this to God for us, if we believe God and stay steadfast in belief, God by this and then the resurrection, where we are made alive with God, we are saved and do as God says and does just as Jesus did being led by God, the Holy Ghost.
Colossians 1:22
in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
[h=3]Colossians 1:23 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h]
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[SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
So stay steadfast and be dead to sin and alive to God, by being dead to sin
Romans 6:2
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
1 Peter 2:24 who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life
it is not something to take for granted, nor is it for one to work at.
By Faith and continued Faith one grows and learns from God to say no to unrighteousness, and walks steadfastly in trust
of God's finished work for them, And God manifests it in the believer that continues to believe.
[h=3]Colossians 1:22-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
By Faith and continued Faith one grows and learns from God to say no to unrighteousness, and walks steadfastly in trust
of God's finished work for them, And God manifests it in the believer that continues to believe.
[h=3]Colossians 1:22-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
and what does the comforter do? If you listen to what the comforter says and do as what is said will you sin?
Now is this not by Faith we are saved? in Christ's finished work
[h=3]Colossians 1:22-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
Now is this not by Faith we are saved? in Christ's finished work
[h=3]Colossians 1:22-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
Scripture says, if you love me you will keep my comandments.
In reading this one can consider this....
That this is written as both a comandment, and also the fruit.
For when one loves God our Father, His comandments , become the desire and fruit of one's heart.
God bless
pickles
In reading this one can consider this....
That this is written as both a comandment, and also the fruit.
For when one loves God our Father, His comandments , become the desire and fruit of one's heart.
God bless
pickles
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
And I know you believe God, so by whose works are you made Holy?
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No there is still the issue of whether one believes or not and that is the purpose of the Holy Ghost, to expound this amzing Gospel out to all the world
John 16:9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;
Truthfully we are to get a one time conviction, yet we get many, until we finally believe this
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. [SUP]22 [/SUP]But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
[SUP]23 [/SUP]if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
or this:
1 John 2:2
and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.
Acts 26:18 to open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Romans 4:7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Luke 7:48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Jesus was and is the exact representation of God the Father, and no one comes unto the Father except through the Son, Jesus Christ
So bottom line either you believe or you don't. And all will have had their conscious chance to have made their choice in this, therefore there will be no excuse for mankind at all.
Colossians 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
1 Timothy 2:4 who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
The above does not mean all will believe, rather all will know and either believe, then see and receive. Or they won't believe and continue on in their own self wills, and be destroyed.
A righteous Judgment, for it is by Mercy from God to set us free from captivity, that we all are originally born with in the flesh
Just food fro thought from God whom does just love you too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now by belief our sins are forgiven, it has been from God from day one, if we will only ask God for God's Mercy then receive this in so much appreciation, thanks and praises entering his courts as King David did
Psalm 100:4
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
John 16:9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;
Truthfully we are to get a one time conviction, yet we get many, until we finally believe this
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. [SUP]22 [/SUP]But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
[SUP]23 [/SUP]if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
or this:
1 John 2:2
and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.
Acts 26:18 to open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Romans 4:7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Luke 7:48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Jesus was and is the exact representation of God the Father, and no one comes unto the Father except through the Son, Jesus Christ
So bottom line either you believe or you don't. And all will have had their conscious chance to have made their choice in this, therefore there will be no excuse for mankind at all.
Colossians 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
1 Timothy 2:4 who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
The above does not mean all will believe, rather all will know and either believe, then see and receive. Or they won't believe and continue on in their own self wills, and be destroyed.
A righteous Judgment, for it is by Mercy from God to set us free from captivity, that we all are originally born with in the flesh
Just food fro thought from God whom does just love you too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now by belief our sins are forgiven, it has been from God from day one, if we will only ask God for God's Mercy then receive this in so much appreciation, thanks and praises entering his courts as King David did
Psalm 100:4
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.