THE TRUTH THAT SETS YOU FREE

[homwardbound]

Does everyone believe this? Now if this is true that truth will set one free. Would this not also mean that ERROR would put one in bondage?
Therefore if anyone of us are in bondage then there would have to be ERROR IN ONE'S TRUTH RIGHT?
Therefore would one not have to re-think their truth if they are still in bondage? For the truth sets you free, if you are not free then their is error in your truth.
So maybe it is time to re-think the truth that has not yet set me free
What do you all think?

 

[hopesprings]

I suppose it depends on your definition of "free".

 

[homwardbound]

I suppose it depends on your definition of "free".

Yes this is true, my definition of free is beiing in God set free from all past sins, and growing in God teaching me how to trust in God to say no to any unrighteousness
Growing in grace free from my sinful flesh that likes its own way, that always tries to be good in front of others for its own gain.
So in essence it would be free from this body of sin and death and the only one I found that can do this is God through his son Jesus Christ. And this can only happen if I believe, you or anyone else believes beyond a shadowof a doubt that they are dead in the flesh, were all sin was condemned to. If one is dead through belief then sin therefore has no more control over them
Honwardbound I am

 

[kenisyes]

Lack of truth is bondage. That is different from error.

 

[gotime]

Jesus said:

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Joh 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Notice that those who commit sin are laves to sin and thus they do not abide in the house forever. In other words They do not get eternal life.

But the Son/Jesus makes us free. Jesus is contrasting servant to sin with freedom in the son.

Thus Sinning=slave=death.

Son=free=life.

IF your truth does not free you from past sins and also free you from sinning present, then you are not free but still a slave.

One might then say what is sin?

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

so sin is breaking or disobeying the law of God.

1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Notice that those who are born of God do not sin why? because His/Jesus/son remains in him.

this is what freedom in the son is. freedom from sin/breaking the law.

1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

That is why Jesus said:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

this can only be done by faith in Christ in us the hope of glory. All I know is it works, every sin I used to struggle with is now gone. am I tempted now and then? yes but:

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

There is indeed freedom in Jesus. His blood and power is sufficient for us. The grace of God is powerful, his love changes us into his image. He became like us so that we could follow His patter of obedience and then he paid for our sins.

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

IT is by the spirit that we receive power to obey by receiving Jesus by faith.

Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

you can read it right there, By receiving the Holy Spirit we receive Jesus by faith and are filled with the fullness of God. we are transformed by His power.

How do I get this? Its a gift from Jesus, just ask for it in faith and it is yours.

Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Ask now and receive and grow in truth. be transformed by the renewing of your mind. this freedom brings real results. We can keep the law. or rather should I say Christ in our heart causes us to keep the law by his power and his love. love is the fulfillment of the law.

Then you will know the peace of God that passes understanding. you will no longer serve unrighteousness. sin will become hateful to you. Jesus becomes our all. blessings.

 

[homwardbound]

Jesus said:

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Joh 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Notice that those who commit sin are laves to sin and thus they do not abide in the house forever. In other words They do not get eternal life.

But the Son/Jesus makes us free. Jesus is contrasting servant to sin with freedom in the son.

Thus Sinning=slave=death.

Son=free=life.

IF your truth does not free you from past sins and also free you from sinning present, then you are not free but still a slave.

One might then say what is sin?

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

so sin is breaking or disobeying the law of God.

1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Notice that those who are born of God do not sin why? because His/Jesus/son remains in him.

this is what freedom in the son is. freedom from sin/breaking the law.

1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

That is why Jesus said:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

this can only be done by faith in Christ in us the hope of glory. All I know is it works, every sin I used to struggle with is now gone. am I tempted now and then? yes but:

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

There is indeed freedom in Jesus. His blood and power is sufficient for us. The grace of God is powerful, his love changes us into his image. He became like us so that we could follow His patter of obedience and then he paid for our sins.

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

IT is by the spirit that we receive power to obey by receiving Jesus by faith.

Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

you can read it right there, By receiving the Holy Spirit we receive Jesus by faith and are filled with the fullness of God. we are transformed by His power.

How do I get this? Its a gift from Jesus, just ask for it in faith and it is yours.

Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Ask now and receive and grow in truth. be transformed by the renewing of your mind. this freedom brings real results. We can keep the law. or rather should I say Christ in our heart causes us to keep the law by his power and his love. love is the fulfillment of the law.

Then you will know the peace of God that passes understanding. you will no longer serve unrighteousness. sin will become hateful to you. Jesus becomes our all. blessings.

THank you Gotime, God laid that out well through you and it is truth,no error in what you posted
Homwardbound I am

 

[homwardbound]

Lack of truth is bondage. That is different from error.

Okay use the word lack of truth, puts one in bondage, we can play semantics, it still comes out the same. If one does not investigate going to God to understasnd lack of truth then one will stay in bondage, I know i did for years upon years, but kept up seeking out truth and no longer am in bomdage. So whether one calls it error or lack of truth, bondage is still bondage no matter which way one slices,dices or cubes it
Just getting ones quisitive to God to be set free if not already done knowledgeably by you the new creation in the Spirit of God

1 John 3:3

New International Version (NIV)

3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
Homwardbound I am

 

[Cobus]

To be set free.... I asked God what this implies.... This is what it implies...
We are born in this world and like all other people we are people of the world... LOST AND GOING TO HELL!
Then God calls us to be saints... Romans 1. Then God starts to sanctify us ..... IN WHAT... Jesus says in John 17... Father sanctify them THROUGH your Truth....Your Word is Truth!

So we will be SANCTIFIED.... THROUGH HIS TRUTH! OH Boy! LOOK AT THIS... There is only ONE Truth, and that is the ONLY TRUTH... God's Word. I see it this way... If a man starts reading the Bible and he does EVERYTHING as God reveals the Word to this man 100%. When the man cmes to the end of the Bible, being obedient in ALL God revealed to him, He would be sanctified THROUGH the Word of God. A man entered into Genesis, and Jesus exited out at Revelation.

The man was a slave to the sin, and Christ Jesus is the set free holy man of God's Kingdom. You see God had to give this man to Jesus, and JESUS set him free indeed! Free indeed menas 100% free! Free from the world, from the old life, from the old man, from evil, from false doctrine/teachings, free from SATAN! Free from self and pride... FREE INDEED!

Nothing can compare to this FREE ....NOTHING! Free in God means the wicket toucheth not.... NOT EVEN SIN CAN TOUCH! 1 John5:18.

 

[Cobus]

And the BIGGEST make free..... This one not many will understand or believe.... God even make you free from your FLESH! Right here on earth! I wonder if any person can give me the text (Truth) that proves this!

 

[homwardbound]

And the BIGGEST make free..... This one not many will understand or believe.... God even make you free from your FLESH! Right here on earth! I wonder if any person can give me the text (Truth) that proves this!

There is an exhaustive list, but here are a few all pertain to being dead to the flesh, being dead to the flesh is dead to sin and alive to God is proof positive in the ressurection Romans 6:1-11 is mind opening, when bible calls for one to be dead tosin it is the same as dead to flesh, and alive to God

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Galatians 5:24
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Romans 6:11
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord
Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 7:5
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death
Romans 7:18
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Romans 7:25
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Romans 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit
Romans 8:5
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Romans 8:8
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Romans 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


Homwardbound Iam

 

[Grandpa]

Does everyone believe this? Now if this is true that truth will set one free. Would this not also mean that ERROR would put one in bondage?
Therefore if anyone of us are in bondage then there would have to be ERROR IN ONE'S TRUTH RIGHT?
Therefore would one not have to re-think their truth if they are still in bondage? For the truth sets you free, if you are not free then their is error in your truth.
So maybe it is time to re-think the truth that has not yet set me free
What do you all think?

The Truth will set you free. But the Truth is not an idea. The Truth is a person.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You can't reason yourself out of your bondage. You can't re-think yourself out of your bondage.

You have to be saved out of your bondage. You need help.

 

[kenisyes]

Okay use the word lack of truth, puts one in bondage, we can play semantics, it still comes out the same. If one does not investigate going to God to understasnd lack of truth then one will stay in bondage, I know i did for years upon years, but kept up seeking out truth and no longer am in bomdage. So whether one calls it error or lack of truth, bondage is still bondage no matter which way one slices,dices or cubes it
Just getting ones quisitive to God to be set free if not already done knowledgeably by you the new creation in the Spirit of God

1 John 3:3

New International Version (NIV)

3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
Homwardbound I am

Of course, Jesus sets you free from both. Lack of truth is harder, since often you don't suspect anything is missing. At least if you believe something, you can ask God to show you if it is right. It's quite a step in maturity to be able to ask God to show you all the things you don't even suspect, and to really be ready to receive them.

 

[Tommy4Christ]

Does everyone believe this? Now if this is true that truth will set one free. Would this not also mean that ERROR would put one in bondage?
Therefore if anyone of us are in bondage then there would have to be ERROR IN ONE'S TRUTH RIGHT?
Therefore would one not have to re-think their truth if they are still in bondage? For the truth sets you free, if you are not free then their is error in your truth.
So maybe it is time to re-think the truth that has not yet set me free
What do you all think?

Yes I agree, the truth comes with a high price, it is like a precious jewel, a pearl of great price, and must be sought with all diligence, the spirit of truth will not fill a defiled vessel, he must do this first:

Jas 1:21 Therefore putting aside all filthiness and overflowing of evil, receive in meekness the implanted Word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

When you receive the implanted word, the spirit of truth will lead you into all truth, you do not need a pastor, or priest to tell you his version of the truth, that is what is wrong with most professing Christians today, they are to busy and distracted with the cares of this world, to dig deep as God commands, to seek His truth with great zeal and diligence, and test ALL spirits to be sure they are from God!

But IF you can sit under the many false teachings and errors, that tell you you were born a sinner, Jesus is your substitute, and all sin is pre forgiven, and you are unwilling to seek the truth to test these and many more false teachings, then I am afraid this may be your desteny:

2Th 2:10 and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,

 

[homwardbound]

Yes Tommy4Christ, let us be careful to sift all things through our inward man where there is no sin, the inward man being the Holy Ghost of truth, and that is right we do not need anyone else to teach us when one has the Holy Ghost
Hebrews 8:11
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,

Best to read from 8:1 onward, and for those that say we are not jews as who this was written to. I say we are adopted ones by the righteousness that comes by faith. For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness
Oh and in Father's sight there is no Jew, Greek, Gentile, male or Female, and circumsiscion is of the heart not flesh
Homwardbound I am

 

[Grandpa]

Yes I agree, the truth comes with a high price, it is like a precious jewel, a pearl of great price, and must be sought with all diligence, the spirit of truth will not fill a defiled vessel, he must do this first:

Jas 1:21 Therefore putting aside all filthiness and overflowing of evil, receive in meekness the implanted Word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

When you receive the implanted word, the spirit of truth will lead you into all truth, you do not need a pastor, or priest to tell you his version of the truth, that is what is wrong with most professing Christians today, they are to busy and distracted with the cares of this world, to dig deep as God commands, to seek His truth with great zeal and diligence, and test ALL spirits to be sure they are from God!

You were doing so well... Until the following.

But IF you can sit under the many false teachings and errors, that tell you you were born a sinner, Jesus is your substitute, and all sin is pre forgiven, and you are unwilling to seek the truth to test these and many more false teachings, then I am afraid this may be your desteny:

2Th 2:10 and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,

How can a person come before God if they don't know in their heart that they are forgiven for their trespasses BEFORE they come to Him? The answer is; they can't.

A person comes to God and asks for forgiveness, believing he will recieve it. God then does the cleansing.

You were born a sinner, this was handed down to you from Adam.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Jesus is your substitute. You deserved punishment for your sin but Jesus took this in your stead.
Isaiah 53:4-6
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

It seems you know the process of the Gospel but you deny its Truth. I'm not sure of your motive, you seem sincere.

If you REALLY looked at your doctrine, how could the good news be that you just weren't trying hard enough? You can purify yourself and keep God's Laws if you just try harder....

Thats not good news.

The good news is that when the Lord Jesus forgives us of our sins He changes us also. He breaks the actual chains of our sin and failure and causes us to follow Him. That is the good news. Its His Work.

 

[homwardbound]

Grandpa, Iam curious aboutthis statement below

A person comes to God and asks for forgiveness, believing he will recieve it. God then does the cleansing.

I thought that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood? If this is true, how can we get any further forgiveness besides the cross without more shedding of blood?

Hebrews 9:22
In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Hebrews 10:29
How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?


You see back at ther cross is the dividing line of human history, before Christ sin had not been dealt with complete. after the cross there is no mor sacrifice for sin or for the shedding of blood IT IS FINISHED AS CHRIST CRIED OUT AND GAVE UP THE GHOST
John 19:30

New International Version (NIV)

30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
HE TOOK AWAY THE SIN OF THE ENTIRE WORLD AT THE CROSS
John 1:29

New International Version (NIV)

John Testifies About Jesus

29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
SO JESUS'S JOB WAS TO REDEEM THE ENTIRE WORLD IN jESUS'S fATHERS SIGHT
Now after this was done at Jesus's death the whole world was put under a new covenant, actually mainly the Jews, for they were under and bound byLaw that they could never keep, and unfortunatelywe the gentile have gone over tothe first chosen and stoleoff their ragged clothes and put them on over our righteousclothes that God clothed us with trying to obey the Lawas the Jews did, but we are just asking for forgiveness overand over again nullifying what God did through belief God made you Holy through his Son from God's vantage point not mine, not yours or anyone elses or the world. God is the opposite of this world
Just food for thought, we are forgiven before any of us here were ever born it is back at the cross
Love you in his holiness in all of our undeserved grace
Homwardbound I am

 

[Mark51]

Scriptures show, the “truth” to which Jesus bore witness was not just truth in general. It was the all-important truth of what God’s purposes were and are, truth based on the fundamental fact of God’s sovereign will and His ability to fulfill that will. (See John 18:37) By his ministry Jesus revealed that truth, contained in “the sacred secret,” as being God’s Kingdom with Jesus Christ, the “son of David,” serving as King-Priest on the throne. This was also the essence of the message proclaimed by angels prior to and at the time of his birth in Bethlehem of Judea, the city of David.-Luke 1:32,　33; 2:10-14; 3:31.

The accomplishment of his ministry in bearing witness to the truth required more of Jesus than merely talking, preaching, and teaching. Besides shedding his heavenly glory to be born as a human, he had to fulfill all the things prophesied about him, including the shadows, or patterns, contained in the Law covenant. (Col 2:16,　17; Heb 10:1) To uphold the truth of his Father’s prophetic word and promises Jesus had to live in such a way as to make that truth become reality, fulfilling it by what he said and did, how he lived, and how he died. Thus, he had to be the truth, in effect, the embodiment of the truth, as he himself said he was.-John 14:6.

For this reason the apostle John could write that Jesus was “full of undeserved kindness and truth” and that, though “the Law was given through Moses, the undeserved kindness and the truth came to be through Jesus Christ.” (John 1:14,　17) By means of his human birth, his presenting himself to God by baptism in water, his three and a half years of public service in behalf of God’s Kingdom, his death in faithfulness to God, his resurrection to heaven-by all these historical events-God’s truth arrived, or “came to be,” that is, came to realization. (Compare John 1:18; Colossians 2:17.) The whole career of Jesus Christ was therefore a “bearing witness to the truth,” to the things to which God had sworn. Jesus was thus no shadow Messiah or Christ. He was the real one promised. He was no shadow King-Priest. He was, in substance and fact, the true one that had been prefigured.-Romans 15:8-12; compare Psalms 18:49; 117:1; Deuteronomy 32:43; Isaiah 11:10.

This truth was the truth that would “set men free” if they showed themselves to be “on the side of the truth” by accepting Jesus’ role in God’s purpose. (John 8:32-36; 18:37) To ignore God’s purpose concerning his Son, to build hopes on any other foundation, to form conclusions regarding one’s life course on any other basis would be to believe a lie, to be deceived, to follow the leading of the father of lies, God’s Adversary. (Matthew 7:24-27; John 8:42-47) It would mean “to die in one’s sins.” (John 8:23,　24) For this reason Jesus did not hold back from declaring his place in God’s purpose.

 

[homwardbound]

And we shall be free indeed, all starting with the key given which is belief, then God does the teachinghimself in the one that truly believes
Homwardbound I am back from a long vacation was hospitalized and now back in good health

 

[Bookends]

Does everyone believe this? Now if this is true that truth will set one free. Would this not also mean that ERROR would put one in bondage?
Therefore if anyone of us are in bondage then there would have to be ERROR IN ONE'S TRUTH RIGHT?
Therefore would one not have to re-think their truth if they are still in bondage? For the truth sets you free, if you are not free then their is error in your truth.
So maybe it is time to re-think the truth that has not yet set me free
What do you all think?

Does it depend on what truth your talking about. Granted there is One truth on how to obtain salvation, which is through Christ alone. But there are many other truths that pertain or are related to the Gospel (secondary issues). Not all Christians get these right, and I would put myself in that category as well.

Such issues as:
1. Infant baptism
2. Eschatology
3. OSAS
4. Free will vs predestination
5. Old earth vs new earth
Just to name a few.

So are you saying if we have some of these secondary issue wrong, that we are totally lost?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

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How can a person come before God if they don't know in their heart that they are forgiven for their trespasses BEFORE they come to Him? The answer is; they can't.

A person comes to God and asks for forgiveness, believing he will recieve it. God then does the cleansing.

You were born a sinner, this was handed down to you from Adam.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Jesus is your substitute. You deserved punishment for your sin but Jesus took this in your stead.
Isaiah 53:4-6
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

It seems you know the process of the Gospel but you deny its Truth. I'm not sure of your motive, you seem sincere.

If you REALLY looked at your doctrine, how could the good news be that you just weren't trying hard enough? You can purify yourself and keep God's Laws if you just try harder....

Thats not good news.

The good news is that when the Lord Jesus forgives us of our sins He changes us also. He breaks the actual chains of our sin and failure and causes us to follow Him. That is the good news. Its His Work.

Amen! People like tommy here are not free. they are still in bondage and can not even see it.