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I chose both seeing they say the same thing. But anyway, when we take our eyes off from our Forerunner, we become distracted by other things and sometimes in this state of not concentrating we fall in a pitfall. Just like in real life, a person has to keep the prize as a goal and listen to the Coach, and foremost, esteem the team's Hero as our example of winning the victor's crown.
If not staying on course to you means, straying into willful disobedience then this isn't the normal Christian experience unless you believe you were born depraved, and Jesus is your sub, and all sins,including porn, adultery, homosexuality, drunkenness is just a speed bump instead of an endless pit as the bible describes as willful disobedience to God.
I know some here agree on the sin issue, so I want to be clear to you who think falling of the course means falling into porn watching, lying, cheating or stealing, etc..
These sins lead to death, as long as you have a breath you can seek repentance, but don't be so sure God will relent and forgive, as willful sin and rebellion leads to a hard heart, and lax and complacent attitude toward God and sin, where stopping the sin(rebellion) inst the issue, just believing is, with no departing from iniquity as commanded!
The main problem I am seeing in modern Christianity today is a poor understanding of who God is, and what He is asking mankind to do to be reconciled back to Him. Many, who profess to be saved, do not know God, and those who profess to be atheist, just deny reality. Both positions are a very dangerous place to be in, as stated in 2 Tim 1-8.
I was taught for most of my lukewarm Christian life, that God is more concerned with your ability to just believe He exists, and that He sent His son Jesus to be a substitutional sacrifice and overcomer for all those who were born depraved and unable to truly repent, and seek His mercy, then follow Him in an obedient faith, brought forth by a love, fear, and respect of a God who commands and demands ALL mankind to depart from iniquity and repent(not confess and believe) But stop sinning, for example, stop fornication, stop porn watching, stop adultery, stop drunkenness, lying, cheating, stealing, and also put away the love of the world, and all its vain attractions!
Now for those who follow another gospel that promises them liberty, while actually telling them they are eternally saved and going to heaven because they said the sinners prayer (sorrow of the world) and then trust all is done, all sin is pre forgiven, and repentance is more of an apology or confession you are a sinner and cannot stop your vile sins this side if heaven, woe to you!
To know and obey God should be the number one concern of the church today, not “trust” in something that never happened, i.e., penal substitution, OSAS, or any false gospel that would declare you righteous while you are still defiled or unrighteous, telling you are depraved and a sinning saint till the day you die!
Those who know God and obey as commanded, will clearly see the huge difference between the saved in sin cloaked message being sold today, and the free, simple message Jesus and the profits brought to the lost sinning masses thousands of years ago.
Which was, man has free will and ability to choose to obey or not, repentance towards God and faith towards Jesus Christ was preached far and wide as the only means to be reconciled to God and enter the kingdom.
This repentance and faith meant the vile rebellion stopped before mercy would even be considered, please read Jonah Ch 3, and the Prodigal son, who stopped his rebellion BEFORE his father would forgive him and accept back.
I wrote this short message in an attempt to show the reader and seeker of truth the huge difference between what is taught as truth today, which is another gospel and another Christ, and the true gospel according to obedience, repentance, godliness, and purity that can only come from a crucified soul, broken through a crisis of conviction, followed by real repentance and godly sorrow, assuming nothing from God, except hoping He relents and grants you mercy and pardon.
This is not an attempt to explain in detail the problems with the church today, along with all the leaven added into the pure word for the last 500 years or so. This has been covered before in great detail, for those who are willing to dig deep, and count the cost, come out of the church system and world, and seek the pearl of great price, that is free and available and calling all those in bondage to freedom and purity that can only come when you seek to know God and obey His commands!
Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
I know some here agree on the sin issue, so I want to be clear to you who think falling of the course means falling into porn watching, lying, cheating or stealing, etc..
These sins lead to death, as long as you have a breath you can seek repentance, but don't be so sure God will relent and forgive, as willful sin and rebellion leads to a hard heart, and lax and complacent attitude toward God and sin, where stopping the sin(rebellion) inst the issue, just believing is, with no departing from iniquity as commanded!
In flaming fire!
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God and who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ…………
The main problem I am seeing in modern Christianity today is a poor understanding of who God is, and what He is asking mankind to do to be reconciled back to Him. Many, who profess to be saved, do not know God, and those who profess to be atheist, just deny reality. Both positions are a very dangerous place to be in, as stated in 2 Tim 1-8.
I was taught for most of my lukewarm Christian life, that God is more concerned with your ability to just believe He exists, and that He sent His son Jesus to be a substitutional sacrifice and overcomer for all those who were born depraved and unable to truly repent, and seek His mercy, then follow Him in an obedient faith, brought forth by a love, fear, and respect of a God who commands and demands ALL mankind to depart from iniquity and repent(not confess and believe) But stop sinning, for example, stop fornication, stop porn watching, stop adultery, stop drunkenness, lying, cheating, stealing, and also put away the love of the world, and all its vain attractions!
Now for those who follow another gospel that promises them liberty, while actually telling them they are eternally saved and going to heaven because they said the sinners prayer (sorrow of the world) and then trust all is done, all sin is pre forgiven, and repentance is more of an apology or confession you are a sinner and cannot stop your vile sins this side if heaven, woe to you!
To know and obey God should be the number one concern of the church today, not “trust” in something that never happened, i.e., penal substitution, OSAS, or any false gospel that would declare you righteous while you are still defiled or unrighteous, telling you are depraved and a sinning saint till the day you die!
Those who know God and obey as commanded, will clearly see the huge difference between the saved in sin cloaked message being sold today, and the free, simple message Jesus and the profits brought to the lost sinning masses thousands of years ago.
Which was, man has free will and ability to choose to obey or not, repentance towards God and faith towards Jesus Christ was preached far and wide as the only means to be reconciled to God and enter the kingdom.
This repentance and faith meant the vile rebellion stopped before mercy would even be considered, please read Jonah Ch 3, and the Prodigal son, who stopped his rebellion BEFORE his father would forgive him and accept back.
I wrote this short message in an attempt to show the reader and seeker of truth the huge difference between what is taught as truth today, which is another gospel and another Christ, and the true gospel according to obedience, repentance, godliness, and purity that can only come from a crucified soul, broken through a crisis of conviction, followed by real repentance and godly sorrow, assuming nothing from God, except hoping He relents and grants you mercy and pardon.
This is not an attempt to explain in detail the problems with the church today, along with all the leaven added into the pure word for the last 500 years or so. This has been covered before in great detail, for those who are willing to dig deep, and count the cost, come out of the church system and world, and seek the pearl of great price, that is free and available and calling all those in bondage to freedom and purity that can only come when you seek to know God and obey His commands!
Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
We should focus on Christ and abide in His love amidst obstacles and temptations on the course. God did not say Christians will not face temptations and trials, but rather promised deliverance (Isa 43:2, 1 Cor 10:13) and sometimes deliverance is not about taking us out of the situation but protecting us through it i.e. the three Hebrew boys in the fiery furnace and Daniel in the lion's den. We should remember that God is always on our side and will never depart from us. With such realization, we can have passion to run the race with patience that we won't allow trials to hold us back and we won't allow discouragement to set in.
Heb 12:1-2
1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Heb 12:1-2
1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Galatians 5:17 Nasb For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
NLT 17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions.
As long as we live in the flesh, we will always have to fight against being drawn away from God.
NLT 17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions.
As long as we live in the flesh, we will always have to fight against being drawn away from God.
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I think I would become concerned if I all of a sudden noticed I was missing my self confidence.
I honestly believe insecurity in my own self is a good thing for me it keeps me aware of what my self is.
Seems like this day and time is hard pressing for self reliance self security self pride from our appearance to our portfolios to how we fill the portfolios.
To even how well we conform to the world at large to how much we are liked and like the world.
There is a fine line there between night and day unbalanced and balanced.
I do not feel like a am not self reliant to bath and feed and dress my self or pay my utilities.
I do not feel like I am a walking shame in broad open daylight or an insect.
But I do not want to invest into my own self as it is the self.
The self.
No I know what that self is capable of and it can not be trusted it has to be monitored watched our for.
I honestly believe insecurity in my own self is a good thing for me it keeps me aware of what my self is.
Seems like this day and time is hard pressing for self reliance self security self pride from our appearance to our portfolios to how we fill the portfolios.
To even how well we conform to the world at large to how much we are liked and like the world.
There is a fine line there between night and day unbalanced and balanced.
I do not feel like a am not self reliant to bath and feed and dress my self or pay my utilities.
I do not feel like I am a walking shame in broad open daylight or an insect.
But I do not want to invest into my own self as it is the self.
The self.
No I know what that self is capable of and it can not be trusted it has to be monitored watched our for.