I may not like the man much, but sometimes Christians can learn from Pat Robertson
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This guy is much better, and he knows what he is talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZR022_GbzU
Kent Hovind (He's in jail though, I think he's still in jail)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZR022_GbzU
Kent Hovind (He's in jail though, I think he's still in jail)
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Didn't learn anything from the video except Robertson does not believe the young earth view, he did not not teach why, or make a valid case as for why. So what exactly did we "learn" from him?
Pat Robertson:
No Ussher was not inspired, but Moses was when the Holy Spirit wrote through him and said the Earth was created in 6 days.
NO reason in the text to for a figurative interpretation. What reason other than it does not agree with the majority science view?
1. It is not above the scope of God's power to create the earth in 6 literal days.
2. It is not more supernatural then a Resurrection.
If one does not believe Gen, then why John?
Their is much scientific support for a young earth, yet NONE for a Resurrection, so what is the reason for the figurative interpretation?
Oh and who cares about "Bishop" Ussher anyway??
Pat Robertson:
The same radio carbon Dating that is not entirely accurate, and is based on assumptions that cannot be known. Research it.
Carbon Dating is unreliable, and Radio metric is based on assumptions, like parent and daughter (biologist terms), and neither factor in a flood.
Again, research it.
Pat Robertson:
How does he know it was before the time of the Bible? How would he explain Job's account of animals "who tails drug like cedars"?
In fact, why are their so many dino fossils spread out all over the world? What makes something fossilize? Water, mud? Floods?
There is alot of evidence for a young earth. Yet the best is the word of God, that should be enough. People just swallow anything so that they are not at odds with the "science community", yet the true science looks at both sides without being bias.
And again, Pat did not teach anything except for his opinion. At least post someone making a good argument if you say "we can learn from"....
Pat Robertson:
No Ussher was not inspired, but Moses was when the Holy Spirit wrote through him and said the Earth was created in 6 days.
NO reason in the text to for a figurative interpretation. What reason other than it does not agree with the majority science view?
1. It is not above the scope of God's power to create the earth in 6 literal days.
2. It is not more supernatural then a Resurrection.
If one does not believe Gen, then why John?
Their is much scientific support for a young earth, yet NONE for a Resurrection, so what is the reason for the figurative interpretation?
Oh and who cares about "Bishop" Ussher anyway??
Pat Robertson:
The same radio carbon Dating that is not entirely accurate, and is based on assumptions that cannot be known. Research it.
Carbon Dating is unreliable, and Radio metric is based on assumptions, like parent and daughter (biologist terms), and neither factor in a flood.
Again, research it.
Pat Robertson:
How does he know it was before the time of the Bible? How would he explain Job's account of animals "who tails drug like cedars"?
In fact, why are their so many dino fossils spread out all over the world? What makes something fossilize? Water, mud? Floods?
There is alot of evidence for a young earth. Yet the best is the word of God, that should be enough. People just swallow anything so that they are not at odds with the "science community", yet the true science looks at both sides without being bias.
And again, Pat did not teach anything except for his opinion. At least post someone making a good argument if you say "we can learn from"....
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YEC debunked here
Why The Bible Claims Are Bs - Creation Vs. Evolution - Science vs. Religion - Ex-Christian.Net
Please join reality. It's really not that bad.
Why The Bible Claims Are Bs - Creation Vs. Evolution - Science vs. Religion - Ex-Christian.Net
Please join reality. It's really not that bad.
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yea if one goes to Jail it means they know nothing at all, because they are in Jail! So what he is in jail for tax evasion? What does that have to do with his arguments?
Since when do Christians discount those in Jail anyways? Did you ditch Paul's writings to, he was in Jail?
Most disable comments because little Atheists love to leave nasty ones, doesn't show anything, and the user decided to do so.
Still does not debunk his video, just his "trustworthiness", the only thing you decided to focus on. When that happens there must not be any real points.
Since when do Christians discount those in Jail anyways? Did you ditch Paul's writings to, he was in Jail?
Most disable comments because little Atheists love to leave nasty ones, doesn't show anything, and the user decided to do so.
Still does not debunk his video, just his "trustworthiness", the only thing you decided to focus on. When that happens there must not be any real points.
T
Romans 1: 20 "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the the things that are made..."
In Romans here we can gain knowledge and insight just by looking at God's creation. That being said, if we look at the stars, we see stars being born, mid-life, and the death of stars (supernovas). Supernova 1987a comes to mind, do an internet search on it if interested. This clearly is an indicator to me, that the world or universe is billions of years old...Plus there is some other evidences you can look at prove an old earth as well, omitting the carbon dating stuff. Could God have created the Earth in 6 days, Yes...But did He? Does Genesis have to be interpreted as a timeline of creation, or can we rationalize that God is not a deceiver regarding His creation, and just provides a hierarchy of creation, order of events, and uses the term days as means of poetic literature to help us remember these events.
IMO, Kent Hovind is good entertainer, and His theories don't hold up to serious scrutiny.
In Romans here we can gain knowledge and insight just by looking at God's creation. That being said, if we look at the stars, we see stars being born, mid-life, and the death of stars (supernovas). Supernova 1987a comes to mind, do an internet search on it if interested. This clearly is an indicator to me, that the world or universe is billions of years old...Plus there is some other evidences you can look at prove an old earth as well, omitting the carbon dating stuff. Could God have created the Earth in 6 days, Yes...But did He? Does Genesis have to be interpreted as a timeline of creation, or can we rationalize that God is not a deceiver regarding His creation, and just provides a hierarchy of creation, order of events, and uses the term days as means of poetic literature to help us remember these events.
IMO, Kent Hovind is good entertainer, and His theories don't hold up to serious scrutiny.
First callers/question(s) to Hank is regarding Kent Hovind.
Questions and Answers with Hank | CRI
and
Questions and Answers with Hank | CRI
Sorry, I neither have the time nor interest in researching and debunking all of what Hovind says.
Questions and Answers with Hank | CRI
and
Questions and Answers with Hank | CRI
Sorry, I neither have the time nor interest in researching and debunking all of what Hovind says.
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Well, the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, verbablly. Everyone else, got it by the Holy Spirit, but
Moses, got it directly from the Lord's mouth, which makes the 6 days of creation carry more weight.
Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he
turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of
the tabernacle.
Moses, got it directly from the Lord's mouth, which makes the 6 days of creation carry more weight.
Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he
turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of
the tabernacle.
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Yes but seeing Moses wrote the first 5 books, he probably did not do it from his own memory, that's alot to remember.
I think this passage includes Moses:
II Pet 1:17 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost
Prophecy came through prophets, and sense:
Due 18:15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken
We can assume he spake(and wrote) directed by the Holy Spirit just as the rest.
I think this passage includes Moses:
II Pet 1:17 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost
Prophecy came through prophets, and sense:
Due 18:15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken
We can assume he spake(and wrote) directed by the Holy Spirit just as the rest.
T
You trying to make one verse cancel out another. Those "holy men of God" didn't have to put a veil
over their face like Moses did. They didn't see the Lord like Moses did. Ex 33:21-23
The Lord didn't speak to them like Moses. The 10 Commandments was wrote with the Lord's own
finger and gave to Moses. Moses got the treatment.