Are tattoos okay?

[princessdeb4111962]

But one can't be like the world to win the world. You cannot serve two masters at the same time. You can't join pagan tradition to win the pagans...as unintelligent as it sounds it's like saying police should be criminals and commit unlawful acts to correct a criminal. Getting a tattoo to evangelize to me is just stupid and ineffective. It’s like saying “if you can’t beat them, join them”. If you disagree with me, please show me how effective it has been.

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” Romans 12:2. That verse is self explanatory.

Jesus did not break any rules, He fulfilled the law. If he broke the rules of the Father, then He wouldn't be doing the Father's will. When God gives out commands and one says “it’s too hard to obey so I’m gonna bend the rules a little to suit myself” is sinful.

AMEN starfield well said

 

[princessdeb4111962]

I became a Christian four years ago and I have several tattoos and in my spirit I dont feel they are good and believe in this quote in Leviticus. Sometimes when we want something we listen to what is of our convenience and we can become so permissive because of what we want. Be careful with the choices u take when u are in the path of life, decisions can take u closer or further away from the presence of the Lord. Jesus loves u just how u are and he made u just that way, if He would have wanted u with a butterfly or a cross (or whatever) Im sure He would've designed it specially for u and print it in ur skin. Use ur thoughts in things that help u and get u closer to the Lord. One more thing, dont u think if u felt inside u in ur spirit that they are allright, would u need to ask if tattoos are ok?
God bless u and ur family, remember He loves u.

RIGHT On Jenny God bless

 

[princessdeb4111962]

I was talking about the rules of the day, the laws and rules of the Romans, the Pharisees and Sadducees. They were always second-guessing Christ, asking them why He does things differently and trying to find fault with Him. To them, to the majority, He was a law and rule breaker.

Your analogy of criminals and police is interesting, but I don't think it's an analogy of this particular issue.

Imagine, if you would, you see a man with a tattoo of a Bible verse reference on his hand. It's not the entire verse itself, just the book and number. Wouldn't this cause curiosity in you? Wouldn't it be safe to assume that in that person's lifetime, he will be asked several times what the verse is, and give him an opportunity to share the word of God with someone who otherwise would've just passed him by?

I don't understand how you think a Bible verse would have anything to do with the world, regardless of where it's written, if the intentions are pure (Philippians 4:8). It's spreading the Word, isn't it? It's not like it's being printed on a beer bottle or pack of cigarettes, or being misleading or sinful.

Your verse is self-explanatory, but "conforming to this world" is being SINFUL, not eating at a restaurant or using electricity or driving an automobile, or, I'm starting to believe, getting a tattoo. And, everyone that gets a tattoo isn't doing pagan rituals, just as all of those who are celebrating Christmas on Saturnalia (a pagan holiday) aren't doing pagan rituals, they are celebrating the birth of our saviour, regardless of what it coincides with.

I would like to bring up once again 1 Corinthians 10:31: "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." Can I not get a tattoo for the glory of God? Please show me where it says anything about that in the scriptures (besides in the Old Testament, which would be Mosaic Law, which is no longer in effect).

AND, one more thing, tattooing didn't start with the pagans. It was used much earlier than that as a marking for certain tribes (sort of like a license tells people what state your from, except it's etched on your skin). It wasn't a religious ritual then, so giving the pagans the monopoly on something just because they happened to do it and say it was part of their heritage is wrong.

They also gathered around fires and told stories, so does that mean the Boy Scouts are pagans? See where I'm going with this? As long as you're not worshiping their gods or doing something that could only be described as a pagan ritual (chanting prayers to pagan gods, getting tattoos that are explicitly pagan, etc), I don't think you should be accused of such.

Sounds like u have made up ur mind,but it looks like so many people r against u,n u r still looking for a YES its NOT ok,but Nobody is going to convince u,its NOT right

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

AMEN starfield well said

Might be well said, but not totally right. who are any of you to say who we serve? you don't know our hearts. Just because we have tat's doesn't mean we don't love and serve God alone. Also, if you'll actually look up what the pagans did back then, you'll see that's totally differnet from tattoo's today.

They cut their body open, then poured ashes of the dead inside, then prayed to false gods.

A: we do NOT cut the body
B: we do NOT pour ashes of the dead in or on us
C:we do NOT pray to false gods.

This is a rather old topic anyways, there's soooooo many threads on this, and it gets old, why can't y'all just find something else to talk about? Just stop attacking people with tattoo's for once, cause it gets old.

Basically all of you say the same thing ''well when you get a tattoo you're just asking to be attacked'' WRONG...it's more like YOU people that are against tattoo's go around looking for those whom have them, and say oh look I'll say something about it.

There's no excuse for that, we're people, we have feelings, we're children of God just like those of you that don't have any tattoo's, and we should be respected, loved, accpeted, etc. just the same as all of you are.

Having a tattoo or more than one isn't being like the world either, it's a personal thing, no two tattoo's are exactly alike, there's always something different about them.

Lastly, I can't recall the verse right now, but it's in Revelation I know, Jesus had a ''tattoo'' if you will....on His thigh it said ''Lord of lords, and King of kings''. If Jesus can and will accept,love, etc. us just the same as He does y'all, then how come you can't? Honestly there's no reason!

 

[princessdeb4111962]

Sorry I didn't quote any scripture, I'm still reading through the bible for the first time, and trying to get stuff to stick in my head. So far I've got the ideas the Bible is telling me written on my heart, but I still can't pull scripture out or pin point it yet.

I think the idea of wearing expensive clothing and gold and pearls was that it was excessive. We are to do all things in moderation (says that somewhere in the bible, but I couldn't quote it for you). When we are wearing the most lavish clothes we can buy, we are saying to the world, I'm of the world, I am clothed in materialistic things. Sometimes I have to buy an expensive shirt, because well, that's just how much it costs and I need the shirt. But, I think if you are using money that could have been used for good works, and are buying excessive amounts of clothes or excessively expensive clothes when you don't need to, I think that's whats really wrong. I'm guessing what God is against is showing off your wealth when you could have used the money for more Godly things. He knows we have to have clothes, and I don't think He expects us to never buy something unless it's on sale, but I don't think he wants us buying extravagent things so that the world can see how wealthy we are.

Also, expensive is such a relative term. For me, a $30 shirt makes me cringe when I have to buy it. For someone like my mom, who had a lot of money, a $30 shirt wasn't even something to blink at. For me, I wait until pants are on sale for $20, my mom can grab a pair of pants from a designer store and not even look at the price tag. She doesn't feel like she's being extravagent, she can afford better quality clothing (which often lasts longer than the clothes I can afford to buy) so she does.

Also, I completely agree with you on the idea of decency. I try to keep my shirts and clothing pretty nuetral. I know a lot of people enjoy wearing shocking or outrageous shirts just to make people uncomfortable. The video games I enjoy would probably never be put under scrutiny for being immoral or indescent. And most of them you wouldn't even understand or know what was unless you had played the game or watched the movie quote. As for my tattoos, more people are offended by the idea that I have tattoos rather than what they are. I could have a giant tattoo that said I LOVE JESUS AND JESUS LOVES YOU and a billion people would offended just because I had it, and another billion people would be offended because it said Jesus. I quit trying to justify myself to the world, or try not to offend everyone. I would have no problem wearing any of my clothes in front of my Savior, and I would have no probem showing him my tattoos or piercings. I think that's what really matters. Is what you are wearing, or what you are putting in or on your body something you would show or do in front of Jesus?

Just remember u want to have nice clothes n things ,but u don't need,u do need food,water,to live.just a thought.

 

[princessdeb4111962]

My liberal side is coming out now and I'll say with a small amount of humor - Jesus got a tattoo, one on each hand and one in the side with very large and pianful needles.
"Jesus got a tattoo so we don't have to"

He was SCARRED silly not tattoo

 

[princessdeb4111962]

Ya'll NO it's not right but u r going to go against God,U will have accountability.Do u think Jesus would get a tattoo WWJD(WHAT WOULD JESUS DO)?NOT,but ur just convincing urself its ok.enemy is taking over ur body.So they r u even asking for advice,UR NOT listening to anyone.WEAR A RELIGIOUS SHIRT,to get attention towards JESUS,u don't have to scar God's temple."WAKE UP PEOPLE STOP IT"SAYS THE LORD.that was from the HOLY SPIRIT

 

[Harley_Angel]

Well, Princess, how do I know Jesus wouldn't get a tattoo? Maybe Jesus would get a tattoo and wear leather and ride motorcycles. He WAS a rebel you know.

 

[princessdeb4111962]

Well, Princess, how do I know Jesus wouldn't get a tattoo? Maybe Jesus would get a tattoo and wear leather and ride motorcycles. He WAS a rebel you know.

I will pray for u Angel,I do believe ur the rebel,sorry.I know Jesus had better things to do with His time than want or even think about getting tattoos.He was working n glorifying His Father,I think thats what ya'll should b doing instead of wasting time n God's money on getting tattoos.Thats my opinon,I believe God will agree with me.

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Ya'll NO it's not right but u r going to go against God,U will have accountability.Do u think Jesus would get a tattoo WWJD(WHAT WOULD JESUS DO)?NOT,but ur just convincing urself its ok.enemy is taking over ur body.So they r u even asking for advice,UR NOT listening to anyone.WEAR A RELIGIOUS SHIRT,to get attention towards JESUS,u don't have to scar God's temple."WAKE UP PEOPLE STOP IT"SAYS THE LORD.that was from the HOLY SPIRIT

First of all, we aren't going against God, second, let us take accountability and just get off our backs, third of all, the enemy CAN'T enter our body, or over take it or whatever, as we're saved. Lastly, take your own advise on your signature, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

that whole ''wake up people and stop it says the Lord'' could be for those of you attacking us that have tattoo's or see nothing wrong with them. It's just so immature how y'all go and attack us, and it needs to stop. We aren't going to hell for having them, we aren't doing wrong, it's up to us, what we feel the Lord says to us personally. A tattoo is NOT a scar either.

I tell you what, if all of you so called Christians are like that about tattoo's, I'd hate to see you witness to the lost, or talk with the saved that have tattoo's, cause y'all are gonna turn them away from and against God. Starting to push my buttons honestly, and so I'm done with this thread at least for now. I'm gonna stop myself before I get angry and say something I shouldn't, unlike what most of you tattoo haters have already done.

 

[Harley_Angel]

I will pray for u Angel,I do believe ur the rebel,sorry.I know Jesus had better things to do with His time than want or even think about getting tattoos.He was working n glorifying His Father,I think thats what ya'll should b doing instead of wasting time n God's money on getting tattoos.Thats my opinon,I believe God will agree with me.

Likewise I bet he's got more important things to do than care if we have tattoos. Besides, who are you to judge what other people spend their money on? And who said it was God's money? What would God want with money? Didn't Jesus himself say, give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's when referencing taxes and money? Have you never spent money on something that didn't glorify God? Is all you do on your computer is glorify God? Is all you've ever used your internet on for the glory of God? Seriously, your expectations and interpretation of the Bible and God's word is unrealistic.

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Likewise I bet he's got more important things to do than care if we have tattoos. Besides, who are you to judge what other people spend their money on? And who said it was God's money? What would God want with money? Didn't Jesus himself say, give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's when referencing taxes and money? Have you never spent money on something that didn't glorify God? Is all you do on your computer is glorify God? Is all you've ever used your internet on for the glory of God? Seriously, your expectations and interpretation of the Bible and God's word is unrealistic.

I totally agree here. Thank you for making that point clear Harley.

 

[JennyB]

He was SCARRED silly not tattoo

Thankyou!!!! I found this so insulting towards the Lord!!! Really this comparison actually made me sad! as if a tattoo can even come close to what the lord suffered! and he didnt do it to be "in fashion" or to "decorate the temple!" He did it FOR YOU!!! The word says everything you do do it to glorify Him the one who shed His blood for YOU. So please leave Jesus out of it and respect This holy name no matter what dont insult Him! Im really sorry if this sounds harsh but it really really bothered me putting down such a sacrifice!

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Thankyou!!!! I found this so insulting towards the Lord!!! Really this comparison actually made me sad! as if a tattoo can even come close to what the lord suffered! and he didnt do it to be "in fashion" or to "decorate the temple!" He did it FOR YOU!!! The word says everything you do do it to glorify Him the one who shed His blood for YOU. So please leave Jesus out of it and respect This holy name no matter what dont insult Him! Im really sorry if this sounds harsh but it really really bothered me putting down such a sacrifice!

I would say he said it the wrong way, Jesus was peirced by that, not tattooed....however it does say somewhere in Revelation that on His thigh it says Lord of lords and King of kings.

We don't get tat's for fashion or to decorate, we do it as a personal thing. As far as in everything we do to glorify Him, well, as I said before, tat's CAN and DO honor and glorify Him...when they're dedicated to Him, and they speak for Him. Just like that tat I'm getting later today, a cross made of nails. It will represent how He's tougher than nails, how He died and rose again for us, and many other things.

Just let the Lord deal with each person. Best way to go.

 

[MahogonySnail]

I'm about to get me a new tat tomorrow, a cross made of nails

Standup, do you find it ironic that you will have your body pierced with needles in doing so?


The common argument against tattoos is that the old testament prevents making marks on your body.
Yet, Jesus Christ got some scars on his body, and He willingly allowed them to be put there. In a way, that was His "tattoo".

And what about those with stigmata?

I figure people who are tattooed might be honoring God in a more practical or real sense.

Much like those people who actually put themselves through a mock crucifixion around Easter time.

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Standup, do you find it ironic that you will have your body pierced with needles in doing so?


The common argument against tattoos is that the old testament prevents making marks on your body.
Yet, Jesus Christ got some scars on his body, and He willingly allowed them to be put there. In a way, that was His "tattoo".

And what about those with stigmata?

I figure people who are tattooed might be honoring God in a more practical or real sense.

Much like those people who actually put themselves through a mock crucifixion around Easter time.

hmm...interesting point you make there Mahogony....perhaps that's some of ours way of being a living sacrifice in a way? Cause we endure persecuation in life, and all that....perhaps tat's are just one form of that....

I said it before and I'll say it again, most on here won't believe me, but I felt God told me what tat's to get so far. I could careless if they do or don't believe me, I KNOW what I felt in my heart!

Also, the needles, don't go into the skin, they only touch the top of it, the outter part. No where near what the pagans did in the OT. The needles don't actually pierce the skin, and it really doesn't hurt. It's more of annoying than anything, but at times it can hurt if you think about it or watch.....either way, it's more than worth the pain considering what Jesus did for us.

 

[rcshaw]

I love it when people try to justify their lifestyles by saying things like, "Do I think any of those are going to cast me into hell...no." There are two verses in Scripture that are "stronge meat doctrine". They are very difficult to understand on their own, but coupled with other Scripture they help build a foundation for a Christ-like lifestyle.

1 Cor. 6:12--" All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

1 Cor. 10:23--"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

I would suggest that you study these verses and the verses before and after these verses. This may help you to determine and to understand that the motive, (reasons) behind your actions are what are important, not so much the actions themselves.

 

[starfield]

I would suggest that you study these verses and the verses before and after these verses. This may help you to determine and to understand that the motive, (reasons) behind your actions are what are important, not so much the actions themselves.

But one can say they have a good motive but the action itself is a wrong.

Romans 12:1 “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."
Romans 8:4 “That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

 

[Harley_Angel]

First of all, I never said it's for me. Secondly, I didn't insult God, thridly, I KNOW what God told me. You don't, so back off and stop being immature and a jerk. I will not repent when I did nothing wrong, you need to live your life and worry about yourself, not me or anyone else with tat's. Oh I guess you can get even madder at me now I got a new tat done today, a cross made of nails, 3 smaller crosses inside the circle, clouds and all, and it's for many reasons.

First in honor of God, and Jesus, then my grandparents teaching me about God, and to stand up for what I believe in, for my sister always settting an example for me, also in memory of all my loved ones and my best friend whom are now with Jesus.

You honestly need to back off lady, you're getting way too carried away with things. You have no right at all to be so disrespectful. I got my tat's for reasons, not for myself. So whatever you want to think, but back off, I'm not wasting time arguing with you anymore, it's pointless and you're being so immature. God bless you anyways, and I'll keep praying that you and all other tattoo haters finally show the love of Christ to others. I'm done with this thread. At least what parts you say on here.

Lastly, you don't know what God wants, none of us do. So people can stop acting like they do know. I'll post a link on here later, for the myspace of the guy that does my tat's, who IS a Christian. He said to send him a message on there if you wanna talk about it, he'll set all of you straight by using God's word showing things, the truth. For now I gotta go, time for church.

*High Five~!!!* Your tat looks great btw

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

*High Five~!!!* Your tat looks great btw

*moves hand and says sike* j/k lol *high five* ty! I should put up the pic of the close up of the circle, it rocks, and I got a great deal, it was basically free compared to what it should of been lol! Should of been at least like $100-300 or so, BUT I got it for $60 praise God! I'm sorry if I seemed rude in my last post, but I'm not sorry. I'm beyond annoyed with people on here, they ain't God so don't judge. God bless!