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I didn't listen to the message, cause I already know what the worm is, but thought this might help in this thread.
I would call the red thing the worm, not the white.
Mar 9:48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:49For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
Mar 9:50Saltisgood: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.