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Gave?
Sent?
They sound like two different meaning words.
Gave=?
Sent=?
God sacrificed His Son, but why did He send Him through a baby boy?
Maybe, the seed of the Son, what the baby boy was born of, gives us some answers, an answer.
And, what about that word, that big, red,$
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nose , oh sorry that was Rudolph ,that . My bad, not lost you have I don't worry the Lord leads he will guide you back . Now what about that big red letter word and damn nation ,i mean, condemnation., ,? How beautiful is this newfound knowledge. And can you, a saved person, be condemned?
Does the baby boy entrance into the world, does this way of God showing us His love, as Christ'swarrior, say something to you?
Sent?
They sound like two different meaning words.
Gave=?
Sent=?
God sacrificed His Son, but why did He send Him through a baby boy?
Maybe, the seed of the Son, what the baby boy was born of, gives us some answers, an answer.
And, what about that word, that big, red,$
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nose , oh sorry that was Rudolph ,that . My bad, not lost you have I don't worry the Lord leads he will guide you back . Now what about that big red letter word and damn nation ,i mean, condemnation., ,? How beautiful is this newfound knowledge. And can you, a saved person, be condemned?
Does the baby boy entrance into the world, does this way of God showing us His love, as Christ'swarrior, say something to you?
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Well, He made us to fellowship with Him. But He loved us so much, the work of His hands, that He gave us free will. He wanted to be loved in return. When we sinned, we could no longer be in His perfect sinless presence. So first He gave us the law, but He knew we could never meet the challenge of it. During His time with Abraham He showed us what perfect love looks like. Abraham through faith was willing to give up the life of his only son. However God spared Isaac. God knew we needed a saviour, someone who was fully God and fully human to set an example for us. He knew that only that miraculously baby could take the punishment for all mankind. Since the wages of sin is death, and none of us is without sin, only God's sacrifice would remove our sin and allow us to fellowship with Him. Praise God.
Blooming_Violet
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there is no condemnation for those in Him.
God was a pretty tough judge and jury in the Old Testament, but, soon as His Son came, that little, baby, boy was the pure diffuser of our being 'enemy' of God. God>>>>Holy Spirit>>>>Jesus . Things just changed when that little baby boy came, as BV said. What was it?
Why did God choose to save us this way? Why not save us some other way? What power is there in the way of a little baby boy coming to save us from having to live forever in a holding place called Hades, that, I believe, as cool as that God-,created place that's a nice much nicer place where says after we die and are present with the Lord and then even later a new earth of ,unimaginable streets of gold? .
God was a pretty tough judge and jury in the Old Testament, but, soon as His Son came, that little, baby, boy was the pure diffuser of our being 'enemy' of God. God>>>>Holy Spirit>>>>Jesus . Things just changed when that little baby boy came, as BV said. What was it?
Why did God choose to save us this way? Why not save us some other way? What power is there in the way of a little baby boy coming to save us from having to live forever in a holding place called Hades, that, I believe, as cool as that God-,created place that's a nice much nicer place where says after we die and are present with the Lord and then even later a new earth of ,unimaginable streets of gold? .
I posted this poem of mine that touches the topic here, a few weeks ago on the Poetry board. He really didn't have to.
He didn't 1/2 2 become 1 with us
He didn't 1/2 2 walk with us
He didn't 1/2 2 talk with us
He didn't 1/2 2 promise us
He didn't 1/2 2 plead with us
He didn't 1/2 2 put up with us
He didn't 1/2 2 take our insults
He didn't 1/2 2 take our sin
He didn't 1/2 2 take our punishment
He didn't 1/2 2 take our spit
He didn't 1/2 2 forgive us.
He could have just watched and walked away, to plant another Garden....
WE WOULD 1/2
He didn't 1/2 2 become 1 with us
He didn't 1/2 2 walk with us
He didn't 1/2 2 talk with us
He didn't 1/2 2 promise us
He didn't 1/2 2 plead with us
He didn't 1/2 2 put up with us
He didn't 1/2 2 take our insults
He didn't 1/2 2 take our sin
He didn't 1/2 2 take our punishment
He didn't 1/2 2 take our spit
He didn't 1/2 2 forgive us.
He could have just watched and walked away, to plant another Garden....
WE WOULD 1/2
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We would 1/2 what???
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I don't get it, crossingnotes?
It's a creative poem, I get that
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WHY did God choose a little baby boy to save us?
warriorofChrist came right on with the reason I think He most came in that form.
Now, don't worry, this is not a test
It's bible discussion for(u)m, for you to try and understand the true meaning of, not just CHRISTmas, why God chose to use a little baby boy to save the world.
Why not a baby girl?
Why not a full grown man designated, 'The Christ,' to whom (sinners, ALL of us) it may concern wanting to live their earthly life with a peaceful hope of life thereafter, good life, the good life, the forever good life ?
Again, what does the 'Holy Spirit' 1/2 2 (did you like that, crossnoted ) do with all the beginnings of this birth of a little baby boy?
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I don't get it, crossingnotes?
It's a creative poem, I get that
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WHY did God choose a little baby boy to save us?
warriorofChrist came right on with the reason I think He most came in that form.
Now, don't worry, this is not a test
It's bible discussion for(u)m, for you to try and understand the true meaning of, not just CHRISTmas, why God chose to use a little baby boy to save the world.
Why not a baby girl?
Why not a full grown man designated, 'The Christ,' to whom (sinners, ALL of us) it may concern wanting to live their earthly life with a peaceful hope of life thereafter, good life, the good life, the forever good life ?
Again, what does the 'Holy Spirit' 1/2 2 (did you like that, crossnoted
) do with all the beginnings of this birth of a little baby boy?
green.
Jesus was the Son of Man, born of a virgin, and grew up, lived His entire life PERFECTLY obeying ALL of God's Law, not just to the letter, but Truly pleasing to the Father: in every way, Perfect and Perfectly Righteous and Purely Holy.
His Sacrifice on the Cross, being made a curse for us according to the Law, would not have mattered if He had not been found Perfect in everyway according to the Law (both written and in Spirit and Truth).
There was only ever One Man Who was Perfect and Pleased the Father in all He did.
He came as a baby boy.
Jesus was the Son of Man, born of a virgin, and grew up, lived His entire life PERFECTLY obeying ALL of God's Law, not just to the letter, but Truly pleasing to the Father: in every way, Perfect and Perfectly Righteous and Purely Holy.
His Sacrifice on the Cross, being made a curse for us according to the Law, would not have mattered if He had not been found Perfect in everyway according to the Law (both written and in Spirit and Truth).
There was only ever One Man Who was Perfect and Pleased the Father in all He did.
He came as a baby boy.
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Dear GreenNnice,
(Please forgive me for this but, are you related to Kermit the Frog?)
Sorry, couldn't resist that. But to address your question, here is what I believe.
Jesus came to earth to pay the sin penalty for all mankind so that we might have a relationship with God and spend eternity with Him. Without Christ's sacrifice, we were all doomed to die as Adam had, and live forever apart from God. "Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—...For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!" (Romans 5:11-12 & 15) His death on the cross won salvation for all who will believe on Him and accept His gift.
Now, for this to be so, Christ had to be fully God and fully man. He had to breathe as we breathed, live as we lived, experience what we experienced and, ultimately, be tempted as we are. To do that, He had to be born of a human mother, raised as a normal child, and come to manhood just like any other man that He was here to substitute for. If He had just suddenly appeared one day, fully grown, it would have defeated the purpose of His life. He was the "perfect" lamb of God, whose sacrifice atoned for the sins of the world.
Therefore, God sent Him to earth as a human baby, to grow and mature just like any other human, so that He could fulfill the purpose for which He came. Any other avenue of salvation, from God's point of view, would have been insufficient.
God bless you all.
(Please forgive me for this but, are you related to Kermit the Frog?)
Sorry, couldn't resist that. But to address your question, here is what I believe.
Jesus came to earth to pay the sin penalty for all mankind so that we might have a relationship with God and spend eternity with Him. Without Christ's sacrifice, we were all doomed to die as Adam had, and live forever apart from God. "Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—...For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!" (Romans 5:11-12 & 15) His death on the cross won salvation for all who will believe on Him and accept His gift.
Now, for this to be so, Christ had to be fully God and fully man. He had to breathe as we breathed, live as we lived, experience what we experienced and, ultimately, be tempted as we are. To do that, He had to be born of a human mother, raised as a normal child, and come to manhood just like any other man that He was here to substitute for. If He had just suddenly appeared one day, fully grown, it would have defeated the purpose of His life. He was the "perfect" lamb of God, whose sacrifice atoned for the sins of the world.
Therefore, God sent Him to earth as a human baby, to grow and mature just like any other human, so that He could fulfill the purpose for which He came. Any other avenue of salvation, from God's point of view, would have been insufficient.
God bless you all.
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Hmm...we know that it was prophesied in the Old Testament that God would send a Messiah. So the people were looking for Him. His lineage was mentioned and I believe even where be would be born. God gave specifics to make it clear to us who His true son was.
Are you referring to the Genesis verses...aka the beginning of the end
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
The blood of the prior sacrifices were considered just a covering of sin, but not removal of sin. It was foretold that there would be a miraculous birth complete with a special star in the sky. My guess is God chose a man because He continually puts men at the head. Only his Son could defeat death.
As far as things changing, to me the most significant change was when the curtain in the temple was ripped in two from top to bottom. This gave everyone access to the Holy Spirit which before was reserved for specific people or priests.
Another significant change to me was God opened up salvation to Gentiles too.
Blooming_Violet
Are you referring to the Genesis verses...aka the beginning of the end
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
The blood of the prior sacrifices were considered just a covering of sin, but not removal of sin. It was foretold that there would be a miraculous birth complete with a special star in the sky. My guess is God chose a man because He continually puts men at the head. Only his Son could defeat death.
As far as things changing, to me the most significant change was when the curtain in the temple was ripped in two from top to bottom. This gave everyone access to the Holy Spirit which before was reserved for specific people or priests.
Another significant change to me was God opened up salvation to Gentiles too.
Blooming_Violet
Because God does what pleases Him, and it pleased Him because of His love, to send His son for our sake.
Jesus had to be as we are, to over come the world and sin for us, then pay the price being perfect and free of sin from the beginning.
Only He who was without sin, could pay the price for our sin, thus overcoming the world.
Thankyou Father God, thankyou Lord Jesus, trully all glory, honor and praise is yours !!!!!
God bless
pickles
Jesus had to be as we are, to over come the world and sin for us, then pay the price being perfect and free of sin from the beginning.
Only He who was without sin, could pay the price for our sin, thus overcoming the world.
Thankyou Father God, thankyou Lord Jesus, trully all glory, honor and praise is yours !!!!!
God bless
pickles
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Hmm...we know that it was prophesied in the Old Testament that God would send a Messiah. So the people were looking for Him. His lineage was mentioned and I believe even where be would be born. God gave specifics to make it clear to us who His true son was.
Are you referring to the Genesis verses...aka the beginning of the end
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
The blood of the prior sacrifices were considered just a covering of sin, but not removal of sin. It was foretold that there would be a miraculous birth complete with a special star in the sky. My guess is God chose a man because He continually puts men at the head. Only his Son could defeat death.
As far as things changing, to me the most significant change was when the curtain in the temple was ripped in two from top to bottom. This gave everyone access to the Holy Spirit which before was reserved for specific people or priests.
Another significant change to me was God opened up salvation to Gentiles too.
Blooming_Violet
Are you referring to the Genesis verses...aka the beginning of the end
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
The blood of the prior sacrifices were considered just a covering of sin, but not removal of sin. It was foretold that there would be a miraculous birth complete with a special star in the sky. My guess is God chose a man because He continually puts men at the head. Only his Son could defeat death.
As far as things changing, to me the most significant change was when the curtain in the temple was ripped in two from top to bottom. This gave everyone access to the Holy Spirit which before was reserved for specific people or priests.
Another significant change to me was God opened up salvation to Gentiles too.
Blooming_Violet
But ,yes, it was a little baby boy who came, He was prophesied to come, as early as Gen. 3:!5, now where did I just read that, hmmm,
, and, then, through Scripture is this coming 'Truth' threaded, is it not ? And, then we GET the truth of the prophesy, which is HOW???A little baby boy. How many KNEW of a 'Saviour' coming to save them? Ya think, everybody who heard in Bethleham, Syria, Nazereth. Care to name any other places, Christ peeps ? EVERY 'where,' but who came?
Who came to see this laughingstock of the world ? A baby come to save the world?
Ha ! That's like saying, 'Jesus is coming again,' isn't it, I mean, to the unbelievers..... Or, 'sin doesn't matter,' it's OK to have a lifestyle of sin. Right? GOD FORBID !! Not judging YOU, for to condemn others WILL condemn YOURSELF Scripture states. God condemns NO ONE to the GROUND and later, Lake of Fire, that is there OWN decision, their own HEART that chooses what?
Unbelief.
But, what? WHAT!! A little baby boy . Ha!! I was right, this God guy is a fake, telling ME, can you believe it, telling ME, that I am going to be saved from this Roman rule by a little baby boy. Hey, some didn;'t know the salvation picture in mind, not even Satan knew, or, hmmm, is 'believed,' a better word? No, Satan didn't know, that 'snake' thought he had Jesus HOOK,LINE, SINKER on that cross!!! Cursed and dying, blood dripping, it was only a matter of time, Satan thought, sickly spit, dripping from his fangs.....
Oh, Satan was right too, wasn't he !! It was 'only a matter of time,' LOL, until Jesus WOULD CRUSH Satan' head and Jesus' would watch the little sucker run into his heel.
But, a little baby boy? Really? Really, God ???
Who believed in a little baby boy? Who came to worship the newborn King?
Not many did come, did they, not many at all. A few 'flooded' in to the stable, didn't they, just a few, many were chosen to come. All, right !! But, ONLY a few came. Some were the hardened heart 'Pharoah' types and were with hearts HARD from the git, but MANY were called and they forgot their garment of FAITH and could not even hope to come to the invitation because they thought the newborn King was just......
....a little baby boy .
Oh, yes, pickled, milady, oh yes !
It pleased Him, because God is love, He put together the most ingenious of ways to REACH the most people, absolutely simple yet elaborate as 'Watson,' (IBM computer that beat brightest 'Jeopardy' minds) as talked about today in said terms proves, this coming to us as a little baby boy was the most helpful, not helpless way, He could reach us all with His great truth of love, that none should perish, His hope, His prayer, His desire for us, so great, indeed, so 'great.'
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I used to go to my grand parents house to stay for a weekend when I was little,their house is on the main road that leads to one of the most important temple to Hindus,people would wake up early as 4 n go there bare footed,some walked 10km ,some did more,they did this everyday to please their little idols.
However our God is holy,he hates wickedness and sin,word of God says he's angry at the wicked everyday,and the best of our righteous works we do offends God.There is absolute no hope for us,and his wrath and anger is the only thing we deserve.however there is another attribute of God called Love n he is merciful.the only wayto save us was by sending us his son. And read 2cor5:21
However our God is holy,he hates wickedness and sin,word of God says he's angry at the wicked everyday,and the best of our righteous works we do offends God.There is absolute no hope for us,and his wrath and anger is the only thing we deserve.however there is another attribute of God called Love n he is merciful.the only wayto save us was by sending us his son. And read 2cor5:21
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Prophesied of a 'Saviour.' Why, yes, BV, indeed. Exactly what the Lord woke me up with to say today, depending on how you believe
But ,yes, it was a little baby boy who came, He was prophesied to come, as early as Gen. 3:!5, now where did I just read that, hmmm, , and, then, through Scripture is this coming 'Truth' threaded, is it not ? And, then we GET the truth of the prophesy, which is HOW??
But ,yes, it was a little baby boy who came, He was prophesied to come, as early as Gen. 3:!5, now where did I just read that, hmmm,
, and, then, through Scripture is this coming 'Truth' threaded, is it not ? And, then we GET the truth of the prophesy, which is HOW??
I really haven't studied that verse since the first time I read the Word 12 years ago. If I remember it was the first prophecy of the 60+ that point to Jesus as Lord/Messiah.
It is hard to get excited at Christmas when there will be so few seats in church and then the following week so many seats available. But I love my Lord, and I will worship Him whether it is a holiday or a regular day.
Blooming_Violet
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Hmm...we know that it was prophesied in the Old Testament that God would send a Messiah. So the people were looking for Him. His lineage was mentioned and I believe even where be would be born. God gave specifics to make it clear to us who His true son was.
Are you referring to the Genesis verses...aka the beginning of the end
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
The blood of the prior sacrifices were considered just a covering of sin, but not removal of sin. It was foretold that there would be a miraculous birth complete with a special star in the sky. My guess is God chose a man because He continually puts men at the head. Only his Son could defeat death.
As far as things changing, to me the most significant change was when the curtain in the temple was ripped in two from top to bottom. This gave everyone access to the Holy Spirit which before was reserved for specific people or priests.
Another significant change to me was God opened up salvation to Gentiles too.
Blooming_Violet
Are you referring to the Genesis verses...aka the beginning of the end
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
The blood of the prior sacrifices were considered just a covering of sin, but not removal of sin. It was foretold that there would be a miraculous birth complete with a special star in the sky. My guess is God chose a man because He continually puts men at the head. Only his Son could defeat death.
As far as things changing, to me the most significant change was when the curtain in the temple was ripped in two from top to bottom. This gave everyone access to the Holy Spirit which before was reserved for specific people or priests.
Another significant change to me was God opened up salvation to Gentiles too.
Blooming_Violet
I spoke at length today on what was prefaced by you, the Lord leads, all glory to God, .for God
is good , and, God is great, and, God is all and all