Soon as we leave this flesh we are Home with our LORD JESUS

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Rev_5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Rev_7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev_7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev_6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Rom_14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. Our flesh dies and is gone forever more !Our spirit does not die! Death is separtion from God ! Life is a Relationship with GOD as FATHER and FRIEND !
Eph_3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
Joh_11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.

Php_1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
2Co_5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2Co_5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Joh_17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh_17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

our Natural home is Now New jerusalem !

 

[Tommy4Christ]

This applies to the called out church:


The Church
Ekklēsia is the Greek word used in the New Testament over 116 times, translated in our English Bibles as ‘Church’. The word has NOTHING to do with stone buildings or sacred places of worship. It is a compound word meaning: ‘Ek’: Out from….’Ekklisia’ the called out. Thus the ‘Called out’.

The Greek word most closely related to ‘Church’ is kuriakos, used in 1Cor11:20 & Rev1:10, translated: ‘the Lord’s’ as referring to the Lord ’s Supper and the Lord’s Day. Meaning in the Greek: belonging to the Lord, related to the Lord. This word became associated with places of ‘Christian’ worship around 300AD under Roman Emperor Constantine. Up to that time the true followers of Jesus Christ were meeting in private homes, often in secret at night. WHY? Because in the Roman Empire there could be no private religion! It was against the law and considered conspiratorial to hold secret or private meetings in homes. This is why the Pagans often brought moral charges against the Christians accusing them of incest, cannibalism and unnatural practices.
(meetings in homes: Rom16:5, 1Cor16:19, Col4:15, Phil1:2, Acts2:46)

For those of you in the religious system ignorant of past history, Constantine was the Roman Emperor who granted religious tolerance in the land that brought an end to the bitter persecutions against Christians. This eventually led to the uniting of church and state, bringing the ‘Christian’ religion into great cathedrals of Rome. (considered sacred by the pagans) From that time forward an ‘Official’ religious system existed under the guise of Christianity blending together the idols, pagan beliefs and rituals of Roman culture. Officially you were either a ‘Catholic Christian’ or a ‘heretic’….branded foolish madmen, who should suffer chastisement and divine condemnation.

Essentially this turned the tables against the real Saints of God labeling them dangerous dissenters and has done so every since. The System now had full authority to persecute and legally murder their religious opponents. Thus is your explanation for all the religious blood letting throughout history and for the present religious establishment that exists in our (relatively) free society today.

The ‘Churches’ as they exist in our towns, villages and cities, in which so-called Christians claim to worship the One True God are simply an off-shoot of what happened in ancient Rome when the Pure Doctrine of Jesus Christ was nullified by the teachings of men. This is why the ‘Church’ has absolutely no similarity to the ‘Ekklesia’ of the Bible and also has no desire whatsoever to resemble it. They have their SYSTEM in place that serves the purpose of gathering humanity under a unified pattern of religion where anything goes and people can choose the ‘form’ that suits them best.

The establishment can still maintain a fabricated authority over attendees insisting they must submit to church leadership and remain in fellowship lest they abandon the faith. This enforces the fantasy in the minds of church goers that those who flee the System are angry runagates and devils better off gone rather than stirring up trouble in their midst. In olden times the ‘Church’ exercised domination over the people by the pretense of piety, the place of worship (they controlled) was consecrated of the Lord and dare not be blasphemed or defied. They may not be hunting down dissidents or burning anyone at the stake in our time, but TRY going among them to challenge their false doctrines and expose the sin! You will find out very quickly that non-compliance will NOT be tolerated.

A denominational church will use its entire governing body to see that you’re silenced and cast out of doors if necessary. More independent organizations will muster the governing board against you and see that you’re brought to shame in the eyes of the people. How different is that from excommunication or being branded a heretic by the religious establishment? The illegitimate ‘Church’ System STILL holds great sway over the gullible (professed) Christian public who fear being numbered among the rebellious. God’s greatest Prophets (including John the Baptist) always stood aloof of the religious system and were greatly out-numbered by the dominant forces. Elijah had to stand alone against 450 false prophets of Baal who had already gone out and slain hundreds of the Lord’s faithful. (1Kings19:12-21)

It’s really no surprise that those of us who Preach the Lord’s true Doctrine cannot buy or sell inside the religious system. (Rev13:17) The use of these words; ‘Buy & Sell’ in Revelation 13 are metaphorical. To Buy means the ability to Participate in a market place….To Sell translates as ability to Barter in a place. Are God’s true Messengers of Repentance and Faith Proven by deeds permitted to ‘Participate’ in the designated places of worship? Can they ‘Barter’ (the act or practice of carrying on a trade) among the ‘church’ people? BY NO MEANS…..because they have NOT taken on the Mark (which is the lust of the eye, flesh & pride of life!) but have CAST it away in the Crucifixion of the passions and desires of the flesh. (Rom6:4-6,Gal5:24)

That’s what has separated the ‘Ekklesia’ from the church since the beginning. When Saul (later Paul) made havoc of the church entering into every house dragging off men and women committing them to prison (Acts8:3) Obviously he was finding this ‘Ekklesia’ in the houses. He did not have to seek them out in the local synagogues or other official places of worship approved by the religious system. And the SAME holds true today….you will NOT find the ‘Called out ones’ partaking at the table of demons in a place of idolatry. (1Cor10:21)

Christ used this important Word when He said in Matt16:18 that upon this Rock I will build My Church. (Ekklesia) That is He would build His assembly on those called out of Darkness and Bondage into Light and Freedom from sin! (Acts26:18)
The Saints are NOT called to buildings set apart as sacred run by a religious establishment of celery with some kind of special privileges to Lord over people.
WHO is Greatest in the Kingdom of our Lord?

And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your servant. Matt20:27


But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. Matt23:11
Even the Ransom (redemption of Christ) is associated with this kind of Servitude:
just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”Matt20:28
Jesus Served on the ‘Called out ones’ behalf in order to Redeem them from darkness to light from the power of Satan to God. That’s why His ‘Church’ is the ‘Chosen generation, the Royal priesthood, a holy nation of His own special people that may proclaim praises to Him who called them out of darkness into His marvelous Light!’ 1Pet2:9. The Ekklesia is NOT the filthy ragged, desperately wicked, wretched, born depraved, chiefs of sinners sitting under the bondage of a religious system that rules over their minds and keeps them in ignorance. www.standingthegap.org

 

[spirit1st]

Our spirit is the Temple of GOD !Not where we go to worship with Others !
2Co_4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

1Co_15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing

Eph_2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Rom_7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing:

 

[Geometar]

Our spirit is the Temple of GOD !Not where we go to worship with Others !
2Co_4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

1Co_15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing

Eph_2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Rom_7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing:

That is a place where Holy Spirit have to enter.And if u by this u want to denie Church as place for worship,dont u dare,because Jesus went into Church to pray to the Father and Moses got instructions from Heavens how to build Church on the Earth same as it is on Heavens.And Church is all the time full with Angels and it is home of God.

 

[spirit1st]

The building where the church is ? Is our Spirit body ! No church on this planet is perfect ! nor does GOD dwell in any ! He dwells in Us who are Born of GOD ! Everything we see on this Planet is imperfect and must be Destoryed one day ! I love going to church ! Because i can gather with others to worship my LORD ! But I KNow that place is no better than any other place on earth !
God did not start dwelling in peoples spirits til Jesus sent back the HOLY GHOST !that when the true unseen Church was started ! The 120 in the Upper Room and those Who had been captive in Hell !

Eph_2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Heb_10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Where ever we get together is where the Church is ? No building on earth is Holy !

No person , paster teacher pope none are More than any other in the LORD ! He ALONE is head of the church ! just because we have an anointing for a job , does not make us more than others ! We are All called to be ministers with the same Holy Ghost as all else in the LORD !
God sees all on this planet and everything on it Defiled by Sin 100%

That why He makes the few willing , New creatures that why He destroys this planet and Everything on it one day !

2Co_4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

The HOLY GHOST dwells in those Born of GOD perfect SEED ! Not in buildings !
1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Joh_7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Rom_9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of GodRom_8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
1Co_15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Heb_12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Rom_7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing:

Act_17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Nothing we see is HOw GOD made it !It all 100% been changed by Sin ! that why He started over creating Everything New !He started with Mankind ! He ends with a new Heavens and earth !

2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Gal_6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

Isa_65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
Isa_66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
2Pe_3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

But We must be BORN -Again for SALVATION ! It a Brand New Birth , just as Profound as our first from our mothers the water birth ! This new Birth is Spiritual ! a New spirit ! Whhich is the Only part of us that gets Eternal life ! Our flesh mind and body rots away and returns back to the earth it came from ! THe Truth sets us free !Lies hold us and bind us !

 

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1Pe_1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Jn_3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.Only our Spirit is Born of GOD !We all still live in sin filled flesh bodies a short time!

 

[spirit1st]

Moses Never had What we have Now! In the old testament GOD was dealing With mankind in the flesh !In the new testament He dealing with us in a spiritual eternal way ! He only came upon them .Now He dwells in the few willing to accept His gospel as Truth and Him from there heart [Spirit] as LORD !

He foretold of this in the old testament !No one in the Old testament had Salvation ! All died in there sins !that why He had to go to hell to free the captives ! Because We are only saved though His gospel ! What He did on the Cross !

Heb 11:38 (Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
1Jn_2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

Heb_9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
2Ti_1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

This is My LORDS GOSPEL and Only way to Salvation !
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Everyone Died in There Sins until JESUS rose from the DEAD !
1Co 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
All of them Abraham david All !We now have everything we will ever need ! ! we have the Giver within us ,if Born of GOD ?

 

[Geometar]

Moses had building called Church and Jesus went to those Church and pray to the Father.So,Church is only place for serving because only in Church u have Althar.

 

[DenR]

Joh 16:12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
Joh 16:13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

 

[spirit1st]

Any Where we meet is where the church is !
Eph_2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Col_1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

Gal_1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

It was people HE attacked ! NOT buildings !

Mat_16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
The Rock is FAITH ! The church is unseen and the Spirits of mankind belong to it !

Rom_16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

It was Not the House ! But those who met there that were Born Again !
It ok not too know everything! We meed to learn from the HOLY GHOST so we can tell others and share What God Revealede to Us ! Truth is for all who Want it !

Eph_5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Only our Spirit is Perfect at Salvation !

Lovingly in my LORD JESUS gary