Jesus went to HELL

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spirit1st

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Mat_12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Eph_4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Rom_10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe_4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Psa_16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act_2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act_2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act_13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:

Only thur HIS Gospel do any get SALVATION ! Everyone had to have the chance to accept it !First He had to have it !
This is our LORDS Gospel and the Only way to Salvation !
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

It about what HE did !Not what we do ! He did it All , We just accept What He did as truth and HIM from our Heart [spirit] as LORD! He is Already ,But we must Agree !
 

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Yes jesus went to hell to take the key of death i believe, the devil had no clue that in killing jesus it would save us all otherwise he would have done everything in his power to stop it. It must have been a shock to have the the almighty god waltz into your domane and take away the key of death from his hand. He must have been like wait! didnt i kill you!? What are doing here!?
 
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Amen Thank You LORD JESUS !King of kings LORD of lords ! We are the kings and lords Under HIM! He took back the power and has given it unto us again

Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Joh_20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Mat_16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat_18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Rom_8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

2Co_3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament;

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Rev_1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

I HAVE NOT done greater works !But have raised the dead ,healed the sick and cast out satan himself !Yet Am NO MORE than the least in His body and true unseen church ! He given Us All the same Power of GOD [Holy Ghost] as the disciples have ! God is no respecter of persons !

Luk_11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

We have Everything within our Spirit !We have the Giver .God Holy GHOST ! We can never get high minded ,after all He does it all and can use a rock or donkey ! Still He wants to use us if we are Willing ! It all done by Faith and in the Mighty name of JESUS CHRIST 1 None of us are more or less in HIS Body !He alone is the Head ! We hear and follow ONLY HIM !
 

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Yes jesus went to hell to take the key of death i believe, the devil had no clue that in killing jesus it would save us all otherwise he would have done everything in his power to stop it. It must have been a shock to have the the almighty god waltz into your domane and take away the key of death from his hand. He must have been like wait! didnt i kill you!? What are doing here!?
I think the devil was aware according to these and other verses...

Mk 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and [of] the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Mt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Mk 10:33 [Saying], Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:

It is a wonder that Satan fell into God's plan even with previous knowledge.
 
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I think the devil was aware according to these and other verses...
It is a wonder that Satan fell into God's plan even with previous knowledge.
I think Blain might have been referring to a verse like this.
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
 

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I think Blain might have been referring to a verse like this.
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
I think so too seeing 'princes' refers to earthly rulers and not the devil.
 
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spirit1st

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i think it the fallen angels !
and satan himself !
Joh_16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. They held high places in GOD kingdom ! They have already been judged evil and cast out of heaven ! That why GOD had to create a new heaven .these fallen angels defiled the old heaven ! They cannot enter the new heaven [New Jerusalem ] !

Eph_2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
 

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i think it the fallen angels !
and satan himself !
Joh_16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. They held high places in GOD kingdom ! They have already been judged evil and cast out of heaven ! That why GOD had to create a new heaven .these fallen angels defiled the old heaven ! They cannot enter the new heaven [New Jerusalem ] !

Eph_2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
So you think 1Cor2:8 is referring to satan and his ilk in the light of these Scriptures and not earthly rulers?

Mk 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and [of] the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Mt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Mk 10:33 [Saying], Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
 
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dru

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Not hell exactly,He went to sheol- a kind of temporary heaven for people who died before His coming and death,like when the rich man died and went into sheol and he could see lazarus on the other side,then he asked for just one drop of water.anyways,the reason Jesus descended into sheol is so that He could proclaim His victory over satan and his demons(some demons where bound in sheol after rebelling and some roam the heavens and earth with satan working against God)He went to take His old testament saints(who were in the paradise side of sheol) and at the same time He declared victory over His already bound mortal enemies.btw,hell is not yet 'opened' and it will not be satan's kingdom because he will be burning just like the rest.so the paradise side is now vacant because christian souls just go directly into heaven.
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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one or more Prince seem to befit a dual refrence of natural and spiritual but, because i read no prince was mentioned as a human being Herrod or Pontius Pilot who else was a son of a King involved in the trial of Jesus? I find no son of a King involved in the trail and cruxifixion of Jesus.
 
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Yes jesus went to hell to take the key of death i believe, the devil had no clue that in killing jesus it would save us all otherwise he would have done everything in his power to stop it. It must have been a shock to have the the almighty god waltz into your domane and take away the key of death from his hand. He must have been like wait! didnt i kill you!? What are doing here!?
In this it could be so Blain.

The most misunderstood thing about satan is that he knows every word spoken by God to us, he understands some of it partially but it is a mystery to him of its fullest meaning, on top of this fact about satan is that his insanity overwhelms him that he cannot focus when his insanity overcomes him. It is hate that overtakes his knowledge and he cannot fully know the meaning and purpose of God's words and or His son and their plan in redemption. He was totally drunk with hate and did not comprehend the power of the Holy Spirit in Jesus, because no one ever died with the Holy Spirit in them as in Jesus, for Jesus had the power of the Holy Spirit to resurrect, this is what surprised satan so what if Jesus said that he would rise from the dead he was drunk with his insane hate and this blinded him to believe and see how Jesus would do what he said. Resurrect rise from the dead take his keys and shut the gates of hell. Satan could not figure that out! Praise God for His infinite wisdom taht without Agape satan can not win or defeat us.
 
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All scriptures have a spiritual meaning ! But not all scriptures have a fleshly meaning !
the Battle is a Spiritual one !

Eph_6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Col_1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

We must think spiritual First ! then judge it carnal !

It the Spiritual things that are eternal and Most important ! satan was trying to kill Jesus and thought he had ! he got fooled and JESUS came here to die for all mankinds sins !
had he known it ! he would have done everyrthing in his evil power to keep HIM ALIVE !

1Jn_2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

satan can only use people to0 hurt people ! he a coward and doomed ! the least christian can cast him or any of the demons out !They fear Us 100% ! I doubt any of us know the full Power we have ? But we have the Holy Ghost that created All that was ever Created within Us ! I am NO MORE than the Least in the KINGDOM of GOD !Yet i have though the Power of the Holy GHOSt cast dsatan out before and healed the sick and raised the DEAD three times ! It for All of Us 100%
miracles Do not make us More or Less ! We can Never get High minded , as we KNOW He can use a rock or a donkey or anything or anyone HE WANTS !

Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

I doubt i have this Faith ?
Mat_17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Never did greater works i know of ! I have not did all that much for a life time ! i am 66 years old !
 
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One posssibility that was an effort of satan was to kill Jesus in the garden this was a contributing stress of sweating drops of blood Jesus knew he must get to the cross or else His life would not be sacraficed for man's sins thus man could not be saved and He could not present souls to the Father for the Joy set before Him that being the Joy he would give to the Father He endured the cross to be able to introduce all those He saved to the Father.
 
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Jesus HAD to take all the Sins Mankind had done to each other and children , So Much evil 1 More than any us us know ! Jesus saw it All from the beginning of mankind til it End ! That what bothered HIM so MUCH 1 He had no fear of satan ! He knew He would Win and satan was doomed !

HE SAW IT ALL 100%
Heb_9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

1Pe_1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Mat_25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Heb_4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

This Last day is our last day on Earth in these bodies !
Joh_6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Mat_27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar_15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

In the Flesh Jesus was the Son of god in His Spirit He was always a part of GOD ! when He spoke He spoke from His real flesh mind ! He had real feelings !

Luk 19:41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Joh_11:35 Jesus wept.



 
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I think the devil was aware according to these and other verses...

Mk 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and [of] the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Mt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Mk 10:33 [Saying], Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:

It is a wonder that Satan fell into God's plan even with previous knowledge.
Some can be used for ignoble purposes according to Gods plan which is why Jesus says he wishes for a person to be one way or the other as opposed to lukewarm swaying back and forth over the fence and back again so he knows exactly how to use someone.
If a person is praising God one day then cursing him the next he doesnt know how to use someone since their mind and motives are torn between two kingdoms, two masters.
Even of the most evil beings God is able to use as agents of his wrath
In many ways even the devil is used according to Gods plan and purpose
To show who in their free will which ones choose God by CHOICE at all times...under all circumstances not just when it suits them.
Even if the devil knew Christ would be coming to take the keys soon, he likely still delighted for a short time in the way he went about making Christ suffer the way he did.
It may have been satans moment of his own glory even if he knew he was getting his butt kicked soon.
I kind of feel this is one reason Christ had so much anxiety toward the end before his crucifixion, even weeping tears of blood in anticipation knowing that it was almost like giving his adversary satisfaction, even if short lived, and very likely why Christ asked the father to forgive them, for they knew not what they were doing(being led by satan like dogs in a pack to influence others to join in the taunting of their savior not realizing the influence behind what they were doing).
Had the devil delayed in the onset of crucifying Christ, more people would have been more quickly led to God and saved as he walked the earth. So its also likely even if the devil knew Christ was coming to take the keys soon he probably wanted Christ off the earth as soon as possible the devil waiting drooling, with baited breath for the approved go ahead to initiate what was to follow.
Remember, Satan couldnt touch Job without first seeking Gods approval.
To Satans own demise of course,
But then again this is why in Revelation it is said,
whoever is unjust let him be unjust still, because God will still use them, although it was their own choice for hardening their heart.
I know someone whom before being saved set out to become a mercenary, and going into the military for the best of training thinking they would be killing for God ridding the planet of evil, until he heard Gods voice tell him plainly, "alright then, if that is your choice, I will use you for that, but it will cost you your salvation"
This revelation stopped him in his tracks and he turned around later becoming a Pastor saving souls for God instead of killing for God.
All things work to the glory of God, and this last fact my friends, is part of where our peace is derived.
God has it all taken care of and there are no worries when we follow the voice of our good shepherd instead of our own voice or the voice of others.
 
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spirit1st

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satan only knew the scriptures ! He did not have a full understanding of GOD plans ! Even the Angels in heaven did not know !

1Pe_1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory


he knew the messiah was coming ! he thought he did good getting the people to kill him ! but found out that caused him to lose everything !

Now the demons know there time is short !


 
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why did the demons tremble and fear him when he was here.........before his death
 
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Yep. Hades for three days.

He has the keys, and I believe he was saying 'I locked the door on the way out'.
 
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Act_2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act_13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:

Sooooooo........David is in Hell too now?


Jesus did NOT go to Hell people!


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