Are all born-again Christians part of God

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I'm like everyone else ... I think it would be nice if election included sanctification!
However, I see too many problems in Scripture for this to be the case.

I'ze workin on it ... patience.
 
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justification is the beginning of sanctification .The former is a one time declaration,the latter is a life time process we have God's Spirit who sanctifies us but we are not that Spirit.We are in Him and He in us.
 
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Looks like I can only post 5 lines!
Would someone care to clue me in?
 
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1 corinthians 6:11 that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 
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My thread title is a mess, and so is my OP.
I don't know how to operate this forum.
 
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1Cor1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus,Who of God is made unto us wisdom and righteousness,and sanctification,and redemption.
 
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AtonedFor said:
I'm like everyone else ... I think it would be nice if election included sanctification!
However, I see too many problems in Scripture for this to be the case.

I'ze workin on it ... patience.
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Who said it doesn't include sanctification? Of course it does!

1Cor.1

[2] Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
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Heb.2

[9] But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
[10] For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
[11] For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Heb.10

[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
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1Pet.1

[2] Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
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Jude.1

[1] Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
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aww...crossnote i feel yer pain.



sent from my PlaySkool Android.
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My pain is your gain, it's cut my posting on weekdays by about 50 percent.

But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
(2Th 2:13-14)
 
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crossnote said:
My pain is your gain, it's cut my posting on weekdays by about 50 percent.
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oh no!
that's not acceptable.
what can we do?

no gain for me if you post less:(
 
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Thread Title ... Are all born-again Christians part of God’s elect?

I'm like everyone else ... I think it would be nice if election included sanctification!
However, I see too many problems in Scripture for this to be the case.

Scripture references are available for all of the points in blue.

- God’s elect are foreknown, predestined, chosen, called
- God’s guardian angels protect God’s elect (at least until they become believers)
- God gives the gift of faith to His elect
- God gives His elect to Jesus
- God creates born-again believers by placing the Holy Spirit in their hearts
- Believers are warned to first count the cost before continuing
- God’s plan has always been to accomplish His goals with the co-operation of man
- Sanctification … “God chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit”
- Major points of sanctification: holiness, perfection, love, forgiveness
- Church members are given a multitude of dire warnings to pursue holiness
- God promises born-again believers that they will be sanctified, IF they really co-operate
IMO, it is very possible for a born-again Christian to NOT co-operate with being sanctified.

Therefore IMO, there are 3 types of people in the churches (along with the curious and the seekers):
(1) the converted ... believe the gospel in their minds, but not in their hearts
(2) the born-again ... have been given the Holy Spirit in their hearts, but resist full sanctification
(3) the elect ... really willing to pay the price to be sanctified unto holiness by the Holy Spirit

Therefore IMO, it is possible to be born-again, but not be part of the elect who attain salvation.
 
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AtonedFor said:
I'm like everyone else ... I think it would be nice if election included sanctification!
However, I see too many problems in Scripture for this to be the case.

I'ze workin on it ... patience.
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All the born-again are adoped children of God.
 
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