The similar position of Lucifer, the angels, and Christians!

[AtonedFor]

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I had this "revelation" just a few days ago!

Lucifer was God's top-anointed arch-angel.
He was God's #1 created being in the whole universe.
He was even in a position over arch-angels Michael and Gabriel.

Did this this position of his hold any guarantees that he would stay in God's good graces?

NO! ... because OBEDIENCE is king!
Will the Lord violate anyone's free will and force them to be obedient?
He did not with Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels who followed him in rebellion against God.
Lucifer is now called Satan, the Devil, etc.
And the angels who followed him are now called demons, evil spirits, etc.
They are all now God's enemies! ... And ours as well.

Those who run from being OBEDIENT to what they have revelation about
are thrown out ... disqualified.

This is where (and how) free will enters into the picture! ... WOW!

God's Amazing Grace
Granted to the human race in general, which was given the chance to escape hell.
Granted to the born-again believer, who is given the chance to co-operate
with the Holy Spirit in being sanctified.

 

[AtonedFor]

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Please, also see my related thread ... Are all born-again Christians part of God’s elect?

 

[Shilo]

We are the fall angel’s replacements. The praise team
Ezekiel 28: 13
Stones Satan had on.
You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stoneadorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire,turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared.
Stones our High Priest has on Exodus 28: Sardis, topaz, carbuncle, emerald,sapphire, diamond, jacinth, agate, amethyst, beryl, onyx and jasper

But Satan as 3stones missing mystery

 

[rechem]

We are to be innocents. Giving up all of our sins and deceptive nature in front of Christ at the judgement seat, for eternity. Becaues on earth things are only temporary. We all sin each day. The renewal of all things follows.

'And I heard every creature on the earth and below the earth and in the sea, and everything in them singing praise unto the Lamb'.

'Look angels, this is why the humans are chosen to be my children'.

Sin is a curse. Knowledge of sin is a curse. A heart of sin is a curse. all a curse God put unto us for Adam's fall.

'God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may have mercy on all'

The angels and Satan play a big part in all of this.

 

[Ariel82]

"Lucifer was God's top-anointed arch-angel."

Bible verse please?

Angels were never higher in rank than humanity because Satan was the Serpent a Beast whom God gave Adam authority over.

[h=3]Genesis 3[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made

Genesis 1
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[SUP][b][/SUP] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” [SUP]27 [/SUP]So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Revelation 12:9
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

 

[Tintin]

Ariel, Ezekiel 28 speaks of this. It compares the King of Tyre's fall to Lucifer's fall from God's grace.

 

[Ariel82]

Ariel, Ezekiel 28 speaks of this. It compares the King of Tyre's fall to Lucifer's fall from God's grace.

nope don't see it. it seems more like the King of Tyre's fall is compared to Eve's fall from grace. why do you think its Lucifer's?

Revelation 21 describe the bride of Christ adorned with those jewels not Satan or any angel.

 

[Tintin]

It's there in black and white, I don't know what else to say.

“‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.[SUP][b][/SUP]
Your settings and mountings[SUP][c][/SUP] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]All the nations who knew you
are appalled at you;
you have come to a horrible end
and will be no more.’”

Ezekiel 28:12-19 (NIV)

 

[webchatter]

Areial, the angels were created BEFORE humans.