Invitation to those who wonder whether or not the gifts of God still function...

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WordGaurdian

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I invite the people to explain to me what this means and what the purpose would be to have various gifts, various administrations and various operations? And then what does the words mean. We all know what an administration is.... but in these context of words what does it imply and why must it be by the authority of Christ and not the Spirit. And then what is meant with operation and then again why the authority of God attached to it and not Christ nor the Spirit.

Invitation to those who wonder whether or not the gifts of God still functionInvitation to those who wonder whether or not the gifts of God still functionInvitation to those who wonder whether or not the gifts of God still function...Invitation to those who wonder whether or not the gifts of God still function...1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

 
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Abiding

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Everyone is given personal gifts to use in the body.

The Holyspirit will work in every believer as He wills.

So the answer is a big YES there are still gifts and manifestations.

The questions we need are how to know they are true ones or fake ones.

By the way in that list of diversities there is room to see that it wont always be in the same
way throughout the church period. But the Same Spirit.
 
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WordGaurdian

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Abiding said:
Everyone is given personal gifts to use in the body.

The Holyspirit will work in every believer as He wills.

So the answer is a big YES there are still gifts and manifestations.

The questions we need are how to know they are true ones or fake ones.
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Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. (Gal 5:19-22)


Abiding said:
By the way in that list of diversities there is room to see that it wont always be in the same
way throughout the church period. But the Same Spirit.
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Again why is three divisions given, and why then is assigned to each division a different authority from God.
 
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WordGaurdian said:
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. (Gal 5:19-22)

Im wondering why you attached these verses to my response. Is it an inference that what i said was blaspheme?
And then a reference to fruit? Why that attached? I do put most emphasis on fruit by the way. In its real sense.




Again why is three divisions given, and why then is assigned to each division a different authority from God.
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​Well the Father, The Son, and the Holyspirit always work together. But what is your point?
 
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WordGaurdian

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I attached those versus to your response as an answer to your question, for your question was how do we know the difference between those who use the gift of Healing as send by God and who alternatively. So I simply gave you a quick response being that one test the people doing the gifts by their fruit. As it is written in Gal 5:19-22. The fruit that is. So when someone heals someone and you get a sense of anger while he does it... then you know he is not of God. I once was in a conference where someone who said to be a healer of God came and anger was flowing out of him. Therefore I knew God did not send that man. And the power he use to cause healing is not of God. I also visited a friend of mine who happened to be a healer. Whenever you enter his house you can sense the peace of God just brushing through your very soul. He didn't have to tell me. I could sense his fruit that he was a worker for God.

Coming to my point. The first division is gifts. Which by name means that it is something that is given without attachment or condition to it. It cannot be traded and this is ministered by the Holy Spirit. Yet when God see that you are fruitful in the working of the gifts, He appoints you into an administration. Whereby you follow in the footsteps of Christ. Your authority is more, and so to is your responsibility. Lastly when succesful in this God points you in as an operation. Again your authority and responsibility increases.

Now to put it in layman's terms. God gives you a gift of healing to give to someone. You are obedient and do so. But the gift was never yours and never was the responsibility yours. For you gave the gift as you received it. Very little responsibility is set to you. Yet there is still the responsibility of being obedient. You see in order to give the person the gift. You actually have to witness and do what God shows you to do in order for the other person to receive it.

The next phase however is that of a greater authority. For in this the administration of healing is appointed upon you. So you are responsible to heal others. And many come to you to be healed. And to some you give healing and to others you do as God commands you. And this is in the authority of Christ.

The last phase is of even greater authority and here an operation is taken by God in the sense of healing. Where as He will bless you in such a way that multiple people will get healed by simply being near you. You do not even have to touch them or anything. And this is under the Authority of God the Father.
 
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Abiding

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Ok but you still didnt answer why you stuck the blaspheme part tagged on my post.

I see your interpretation of 1 Cor 12:4-6

Im not contending with either your experience or your idea of how
God would work out things in an individual who He is working with.

But those verses are not saying that, although one could allow that to be in part.
You never spoke on the words differences, or diversities. How your interpretation
goes it doesnt fully fit that text, howbeit im not challenging your experiences.

I think these texts are explaining a more wide scope of the entire church period
And to show that many, many gifts and ministries will be not the same, both throughout
its history and to each believer. The greater text shows that this is at the Holyspirits
will and divided to whom and when and for the good of the church with everyone
having a part.
 
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