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Drew, as you are already aware, the head knowledge bludgeon will come out.
it's good to study 'isms', once you've understood there are isms.
because deny though they might, people who claim to ignore/not want to know 'isms' will yet feel qualified to discuss them.
go figger.
btw: i love Confessional Lutheranism.
consider it's "isms" as well.
haha
love zone
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I never got the impression from the bible alone to take sides in this debate.
When the war starts up i see both sides fudgingand usually mangle the
bible and each other.
If someone needs to take sides, thats not my business. Ill stay where it seems
to me the bible is and to me it teaches both. And i dont feel the need to jam
in puzzle pieces where they dont fit, or make statements or give answer questions
the bible doesnt.
I do see the importance of systematic theology. Until it comes to forcing philosophical
questions into the exegesis. thats my opinion.
When the war starts up i see both sides fudging
and usually mangle thebible and each other.
If someone needs to take sides, thats not my business. Ill stay where it seems
to me the bible is and to me it teaches both. And i dont feel the need to jam
in puzzle pieces where they dont fit, or make statements or give answer questions
the bible doesnt.
I do see the importance of systematic theology. Until it comes to forcing philosophical
questions into the exegesis. thats my opinion.
I think what you will find is in systematic theology, you have a bunch of people who are united in the gospel. but do not agree 100 % on other things.
Say like
we agree with the gospel of faith, we agree with how one is sanctified by growing in Christ, we agree with our future glorification etc etc. Then when it comes to other doctrines, Like prophesy, we start to grow apart.
This in my mind tears the church apart.. We should be united on the redeemable things./. And admit we may not agree on other things, but we are still brothers and sisters.
it is when we put a line in the road and say i will not cross this at any means (on non salvic issues) that we become bumbling fools and look tot he world like we are not united, and who wants what they have?
A message to our calvinists friends: IF you want to gather sentiment for the heretics
and give them place and make them look like the innocent underdogs and in the contrast
of their patient endurance and love make them appear like the godly ones then just attack
them harshly and call them alot of names. And dont stop, keep it up till you look like the heretic.
Then have your friends "like" your post and high five in pride. Yup thatl kill truth real fast....good going!
and give them place and make them look like the innocent underdogs and in the contrast
of their patient endurance and love make them appear like the godly ones then just attack
them harshly and call them alot of names. And dont stop, keep it up till you look like the heretic.
Then have your friends "like" your post and high five in pride. Yup thatl kill truth real fast....good going!
C
But then again, who needs the bias of another man when you have what God says in His book called Holy Bible. It is when your heart is full of His words and not the isms of another man that it makes one qualify to content the isms held above that Holy Word.
Ism = this is my opinion
Bible = this is what it is
Ism = this is my opinion
Bible = this is what it is
Right!! Except I think we can learn about God through seeing how he works in history. The OT teaches through history.
I think we can learn by listening to how others who have the Holy Spirit sees. But the trouble with these ism is that many people who study them look to them as truth. My pastor does this. When we are discussing bible truths, he tells us of the way our denomination thinks, and gives that as truth. Or people give a whole system of thought as truth, like Monergism. This goes beyond Isaiah telling us to reason together, and Paul telling us to test against scripture. There is truth in monergism and truth in my denomination, but it is the bible that gives that truth to us, we are to test the other.
I think we can learn by listening to how others who have the Holy Spirit sees. But the trouble with these ism is that many people who study them look to them as truth. My pastor does this. When we are discussing bible truths, he tells us of the way our denomination thinks, and gives that as truth. Or people give a whole system of thought as truth, like Monergism. This goes beyond Isaiah telling us to reason together, and Paul telling us to test against scripture. There is truth in monergism and truth in my denomination, but it is the bible that gives that truth to us, we are to test the other.
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I remember something about The Spirit of Unity in Ephesians.
I also remember what Jesus thought of pomp. And what He taught
about the good Samaritan.
How many people here got their theology right first day on?
Were you shunned until you did? Jesus had 12 who never seemed to learn.
He didnt just let what they thought slide, but He didnt toss em out.
Its sad to see that happen....they have to be good enuf theologically or i
wont be a friend thing. How will they learn?
I also remember what Jesus thought of pomp. And what He taught
about the good Samaritan.
How many people here got their theology right first day on?
Were you shunned until you did? Jesus had 12 who never seemed to learn.
He didnt just let what they thought slide, but He didnt toss em out.
Its sad to see that happen....they have to be good enuf theologically or i
wont be a friend thing. How will they learn?
E
lol and?? does it mean we agree with everything we all believe other than this point?
The was the point I was trying to make.
a line in the sand would be I believe in eternal security, and so do you.. so I will believe everything you believe no matter what.. if you do not believe in eternal security, I will disagree with everything you believe no matter what. i will not even listen to you. in ANYTHING
The was the point I was trying to make.
a line in the sand would be I believe in eternal security, and so do you.. so I will believe everything you believe no matter what.. if you do not believe in eternal security, I will disagree with everything you believe no matter what. i will not even listen to you. in ANYTHING