Leviticus Laws--Comments please?

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devekuth

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kenisyes said:
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Without Jesus, the Jews had no choice but to aspire to the heart of God by meditating on the Law; it was all they had. To me, the laws are like signposts to get me the right road, but Jesus is already way farther down the right road, so if I follow Him, I keep the purpose of the laws. Kind of like a child can never go in the street, because Daddy said so, but we have grown past that as adults. Neither the child or the adult get hit by the passing car, but we, as adults, keep the law automatically, because we understand why.
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Oh really....I was a Christian for 40 years and didn't see much of this in my Christian community. Divorce, child abuse, adultery, etc...is just as prevalent in Christian circles as in the general population. We still need laws. Whats the deal with Jesus saying in Matthew: 18: "i did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill"...so if he was there to fulfill it...why did he add "If any man take away ONE YUD (one letter) from the law...and teach others to do the same...will be called LEAST in the kingdom of God." ?????We all pretty much need instruction.
 
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TomL said:
I don't have a problem with folks that want to be well versed in the Old Testament. But, I think it is more important to be well versed in Christ.
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you don't think it is a package deal?
 
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devekuth said:
Oh really....I was a Christian for 40 years and didn't see much of this in my Christian community. Divorce, child abuse, adultery, etc...is just as prevalent in Christian circles as in the general population. We still need laws. Whats the deal with Jesus saying in Matthew: 18: "i did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill"...so if he was there to fulfill it...why did he add "If any man take away ONE YUD (one letter) from the law...and teach others to do the same...will be called LEAST in the kingdom of God." ?????We all pretty much need instruction.
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See Barnes.
One jot - The word “jot,” or yod (י y), is the name of the Hebrew letter I, the smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet.

One tittle - The word used here, in the Greek, means literally a little horn, then a point, an extremity. Several of the Hebrew letters were written with small points or apices, as in the Hebrew letter, shin (שׁ sh), or the Hebrew letter, sin (שׂ s), which serve to distinguish one letter from another. To change a small point of one letter, therefore, might vary the meaning of a word, and destroy the sense.

About the law.
There was Jewish judicial law and the ceremonial law that can be changed as and when required but that doesn't concern Christians living in New Testament times, but as well as the judicial law and the ceremonial law there are the Ten Commandments that Jesus confirmed and strengthened (see the Sermon on the Mount) and they remain unchanged for all time.
 
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crossnote said:
you don't think it is a package deal?
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From a historical and prophetical perspective yes of course, but the teaching of Jesus is paramount.
 
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TomL

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crossnote said:
you don't think it is a package deal?
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Depends on what you mean by package deal? Jesus fulfilled the Law and the prophets. Take those subjects away, what's left? History, and Wisdom.
 
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kenisyes

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devekuth said:
Oh really....I was a Christian for 40 years and didn't see much of this in my Christian community. Divorce, child abuse, adultery, etc...is just as prevalent in Christian circles as in the general population. We still need laws. Whats the deal with Jesus saying in Matthew: 18: "i did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill"...so if he was there to fulfill it...why did he add "If any man take away ONE YUD (one letter) from the law...and teach others to do the same...will be called LEAST in the kingdom of God." ?????We all pretty much need instruction.
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Just because we have another option (following Jesus with our heart) does not mean we use it. Most Christians I know need to fall back on laws as well. They should, when they are first saved, to make certain they are following Jesus correctly, and not false teaching or false leading. That's why the law cannot be diminished and must be taught. We are called to a much higher way, and there comes a point at which we ought to be following it. But if we never learn to follow Jesus with our heart, we will get what you and I have both seen so much of.
 
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devekuth

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I think the entire idea of "laws written on your hearts" is a Torah idea...not a new Jesus idea. It was written to the Jewish people. In fact, It begins with Jeremiah 30...the entire concept...stating that one man cannot die for the sins of another...so that kinda leaves out "Jesus". It is then stated that it is a covenant made with Israel and Judah...and goes on to say that until the heavens are measured...Israel will remain Israel....so that kinda poo-poos on replacement theology.
 
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