What are some good verses to stand on for fear, depression, and negitivity.

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I'm just wondering since, I've been growing a lot as a Christian lately. And those are my 3 major weak points the enemy attacks me with, and I need a way to fight back.
 
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I'm just wondering since, I've been growing a lot as a Christian lately. And those are my 3 major weak points the enemy attacks me with, and I need a way to fight back.
Anyway, I'm thinking of upgrading my anxiety meds but would it even have an effect if demons are my making my anxiety worse than it naturally is?
 
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If demons are actually capable of making anxiety worse (which seems unlikely to me since anxiety is a physiological response and demons are not physical beings) then your medicine should still affect it.

The most important thing though is getting to the root of what's causing your anxiety. Do you have a therapist, someone to talk to? They might be able to help. Anxiety could be the response to a negative work, home, or church environment too--especially if your church is preaching in a away that makes you afraid of demons.

Remember in the Scriptures, demons are never something we have to fear, but something we are made to conquer through Christ's love. If you go through life afraid that demons are going to make your anxiety worse, well your anxiety will get worse with or without actual demons, because you're worried about it.

After all, as Jesus said:

Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? (Luke 12:25)
 
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Third time I have to write this. lol

For you, Brian, I recommend The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible. From what I know about you, you would use it every day. You wouldn't have to wait for people to post Scripture on here. You would be able to find it quickly for yourself. I got mine for only $20 at Family Christian Bookstore (and they're HUUUUUUGE) They're always in high demand so they're on sale a LOT.

The first time, I tried typing all this but then I got smart and took pictures of what the topical index said. I looked up every word I could think of. Fear was easy to find, but it didn't have depression and negativity. I had to find related words or antonyms. At the end, I also added verses about Satan that will help you fight him.

And as for the meds... PRAY! Don't take a step without knowing what God wants you to do.

And I have to disagree with Densetzu about demons not affecting you physically. If sickness and disease, fear and depression did not come from demon oppression, then where does it come from? God? I believe not. Anything not of God is a spiritual attack. The spiritual and physical realms are not separate in any means. There's a book called the 4th Dimensional Living in a 3 Dimensional world that explains this in full, Biblical detail. This is real, man. It's nothing to be afraid of (Whom shall we fear?) but it is something to be aware of. How can you know to fight against an enemy if you don't know where or how he moves? I would recommend that book as well, Brian. You can probably find both of these at your library.

Here are those pictures:
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/Charissa080/Bible_fear_depression_negativity/
 
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And I have to disagree with Densetzu about demons not affecting you physically. If sickness and disease, fear and depression did not come from demon oppression, then where does it come from?
Buh!? Sickness and disease come from microscopic organisms and viruses, which developed naturally through evolution because we live in an imperfect universe. Fear is a physiological response to preserve us from danger, and depression comes from chemical imbalances in the brain. Can demon's theoretically use these? Sure, I guess. But they don't come from demons! That's downright medieval thinking.

Anything not of God is a spiritual attack. The spiritual and physical realms are not separate in any means.
...And you believe this why?

There's a book called the 4th Dimensional Living in a 3 Dimensional world that explains this in full, Biblical detail.
Oh, because you read some Word of Faith positive thinking manual.

Okay, I hate to do this, but from personal experience, I have to because this sort of wishful thinking nonsense is dangerous to people with depression and anxiety disorders:

Dothackzero, the sort of thing Rissa is telling you DOES NOT WORK; it's an abuse of scripture and an extremely profitable industry, but it is NOT a cure for depression and it is NOT a substitute for counseling and seeing your doctor.

Depression can be caused by spiritual issues, but it is a very real MEDICAL problem.

I know this from personal experience. I fell into depression due to spiritually-based anxiety issues last year, and my mom gave me a book by Joyce Meyer to try and help me. It sounded good, words alone can't cure depression unless they come from the very mouth of God, and in the end I was worse off after reading Meyer's book than I was before.

I'll be praying for you.
 
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Sorry, brother. I don't believe in evolution. I believe in a God who created the universe and still controls it today. I also believe in the fall of man and how sin brought death and sickness into this world.

That book is also not a Word of Faith doctrine. It's a Biblical doctrine. Ever heard of don't judge a book by its cover? It's not a self help book either.

And my sir, rebuking the devil by the authority given to one by Christ who lives inside him, does work. It is not us doing it. It is God utilizing our faith. Jesus rose from the dead and conquered death so that we can too, not just at the end of our lives when we go to heaven, but also while we are still on this earth. Jesus healed the sick and the demon possessed, and not just with His words. Jesus had many different healing ministries. So did the disciples. And these healing ministries continue in these days. I am an eye-witness of many instances. I have also been miraculously healed when prayed for. Demons fled when Jesus or the disciples commanded them to do so. This still continues today. It has worked in my life as well as my in Christian friends' lives, who utilize the authority given to them by Christ! Medical and spiritual attacks - both can be rebuked. I'm not discounting medical treatment at all. Medicine does work as well. But Christians don't HAVE to be dependent on medicine.

Matthew 10:1
[ Jesus Sends Out the Twelve ] He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
Luke 10:18-20



18He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."
 
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I also believe in the fall of man and how sin brought death and sickness into this world.
That's not the same thing as 'demons cause it'!
That book is also not a Word of Faith doctrine. It's a Biblical doctrine. Ever heard of don't judge a book by its cover? It's not a self help book either.
I didn't say it was a self help book, but Cho is most certainly a Word of Faith teacher.
And my sir, rebuking the devil by the authority given to one by Christ who lives inside him, does work. It is not us doing it. It is God utilizing our faith. Jesus rose from the dead and conquered death so that we can too, not just at the end of our lives when we go to heaven, but also while we are still on this earth. Jesus healed the sick and the demon possessed, and not just with His words. Jesus had many different healing ministries. So did the disciples. And these healing ministries continue in these days. I am an eye-witness of many instances. I have also been miraculously healed when prayed for. Demons fled when Jesus or the disciples commanded them to do so. This still continues today.
Okay, these are spiritual things.
It has worked in my life as well as my in Christian friends' lives, who utilize the authority given to them by Christ! Medical and spiritual attacks - both can be rebuked. I'm not discounting medical treatment at all. Medicine does work as well. But Christians don't HAVE to be dependent on medicine.
Telling someone that they should pray away their sickness instead of getting medical treatment is irresponsible and dangerous. God does not promise that we will always be healthy, wealthy, and wise in this physical world, and assuming that you will be so because you've 'claimed' a promise is arrogant and foolish.
Matthew 10:1
[ Jesus Sends Out the Twelve ] He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
Luke 10:18-20
That was a specific instance in which God was using miracles to get people's attention. God does not always use miraculous power to heal. If he did, then Paul bringing Luke along on his mission trip would have been utterly redundant.
 
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Bro, did I say they should pray and NOT get medical treatment? Did I say they should pray ALONE? Did I say God said we will ALWAYS be healthy, wealthy, and wise? Did I say God ALWAYS uses miraculous power to heal? No. I don't know where you go that from. I do not believe such.

Miracles to get people's attention? Sorry, I do not believe it.

I don't appreciate people assuming things like that from what I say.

And thank you for that information on Cho. I did not know he was Word of Faith. I don't believe in the "faith can make it happen" stuff. God makes it happen. But doubting doesn't help. We should have faith in a God that can do anything. I don't remember seeing WOF teaching in the book, but I do remember someone doing a Bible study and using WOF doctrine along with quotes from the book. But the book does contain a lot of information about the spiritual realm and how to fight it. That was my point in mentioning it.
 
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Okay. My chief concern here is dothackzero's well being. I just want to make sure he doesn't get caught up in the false hope of the WOF movement.
 
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Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
 
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Okay. My chief concern here is dothackzero's well being. I just want to make sure he doesn't get caught up in the false hope of the WOF movement.
Same here, dude. :) Maybe next time ask someone if they are WOF before you make such comments on their post? I'm all for defending the truth. But you shouldn't assume what someone's beliefs are by one post. It can be quiet offending. I'm AOG.

And I just happened to be reading Matthew 6 tonight and so here's a good one for you, Brian. I'm sure it's in those references I gave you, but this is a quick lookup.
Matt 6:25-34
 
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Dothackzero, the sort of thing Rissa is telling you DOES NOT WORK; it's an abuse of scripture and an extremely profitable industry, but it is NOT a cure for depression and it is NOT a substitute for counseling and seeing your doctor.

Depression can be caused by spiritual issues, but it is a very real MEDICAL problem.

I know this from personal experience. I fell into depression due to spiritually-based anxiety issues last year, and my mom gave me a book by Joyce Meyer to try and help me. It sounded good, words alone can't cure depression unless they come from the very mouth of God, and in the end I was worse off after reading Meyer's book than I was before.
We all have different experiences but I personally have overcome moderate to severe depression with what biblical techniques and Benny Hinn and exorcism so I know it works. God can cure anything if you have faith.
 
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Anyway, I'm thinking of upgrading my anxiety meds but would it even have an effect if demons are my making my anxiety worse than it naturally is?
Greetings,

Do you mind if I ask you about your diet?

I have known people who have gone through something similar to what you are describing.
 

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I'm just wondering since, I've been growing a lot as a Christian lately. And those are my 3 major weak points the enemy attacks me with, and I need a way to fight back.
Brother this I know as a witness. My wife delth with the same issues that you are having and with much prayer and belief through the both of us God has delivered her. I am not saying that every once in a while the enemy doesn't try to attack her and bring it back. Yet we both know and believe she was delivered by the Father and stand on that. SO I say keep prayer and thanks giving in your heart and when these things come upon you get some worship music out and Worship the Father in spirit and truth. There was a person on CC whom a few of us prayed for in the prayer room and the Holy Spirit led me to play worship music and st an atmophere of worship. We all had a great experience and that person who was under attack was brought to a point of peace and the attack was gone. Remember that when Saul was being tormented by an evil spirit it was only David playing his harp that gave him relief.
 
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Buh!? Sickness and disease come from microscopic organisms and viruses, which developed naturally through evolution because we live in an imperfect universe. Fear is a physiological response to preserve us from danger, and depression comes from chemical imbalances in the brain. Can demon's theoretically use these? Sure, I guess. But they don't come from demons! That's downright medieval thinking.



I'll be praying for you.

go pray for yourself and I will pray for you also, you believe in EVOLUTION but don't believe in demons????????????

which bible are you reading from?
 
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the one verse that would apply to all the above would be

1jo 4:4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Fear :

Mt 10:28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Depression:

Lu 10:20Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


Negitivity:

Php 4:1Therefore, my brethren, dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.Php 4:2I beseech Euodias, and beseech Syntyche, that they be of the same mind in the Lord.Php 4:3And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.Php 4:4Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.Php 4:5Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.Php 4:6Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.Php 4:7And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.Php 4:8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.Php 4:9Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.Php 4:10But I rejoiced in the Lord greatly, that now at the last your care of me hath flourished again; wherein ye were also careful, but ye lacked opportunity.Php 4:11Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.Php 4:12I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.Php 4:13I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
 
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Come on people! dothackzero just wanted some scriptures (from the Bible) I am sure reading the arguments here are not helping. Lets just give him encouraging scriptures and no arguing. If you want to have an disagreement on this do it by messaging each other. dothackzero needs encouragement not discouragement. Imepaula, thank you for the scripture as dothackzero asked. Here are some scriptures for you.
psalm 34:4, Matthew 10: 28-31, Hebrews 13: 5-6, Psalm 46, Matthew 6: 19-34, Philippians 4: 6-9, 1Peter 5:6-7.
Thank you for asking this question because I suffer depression as well and reading these scriptures has helped up lift me, so thank you for helping me with your question dothackzero. God Bless You. :) If you need more, let me know.
 
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Hi Dot. God bless you. Above you got to see the Kingdom of God fighting the kingdom of darkness. One person saying there are no demons causing sickness and one saying sickness is not of God. The bible shows you many stories of Jesus casting out demons from people. Demons of blindness, demons of deafness, demons of cutting, demons throwing the people into fires, demons are sickness here to destroy people. The Lord tells you to put on your armor. Ephesians 6,11 Put on all the armor that God gives you, so that you will be able to stand up agaisnt the devil's evil tricks. 12 For we are not fighting agasint human beings but agaisnt the wicked spiritual forces in the heavenly world, the rulers, authorites, and cosmic powers of this dark age. 13 So put put on God's armor now! Then when the evil day comes, you will be able to resist the enemies attacks; and after fighting to the end, you will still hold your ground. Go to the bible and learn your armor that God says to have on to fight the devil. You are to have no fear for you are to know that thr your prayers God is fighting the battle. Speak the words and tell satan to get out in the name of Jesus. Demon of sickness get out in Jesus name. You are in a war of one who wants to kill you. He has no rights over you. You must know your rights given to you by God over these evil spirits. By the name of Jesus he says you are to rule over these evil spirits.
 
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Third time I have to write this. lol

lol, sorry about that.


<p>For you, Brian, I recommend The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible. From what I know about you, you would use it every day. You wouldn't have to wait for people to post Scripture on here. You would be able to find it quickly for yourself. I got mine for only $20 at Family Christian Bookstore (and they're HUUUUUUGE) They're always in high demand so they're on sale a LOT.

hmm, I think I will have to buy that. But I didn't know Family Christian Bookstore was a chain, I just thought it local business.

<p>And as for the meds... PRAY! Don't take a step without knowing what God wants you to do. </p>

Okay, I think I will. :p

<p>And I have to disagree with Densetzu about demons not affecting you physically. If sickness and disease, fear and depression did not come from demon oppression, then where does it come from? God? I believe not. Anything not of God is a spiritual attack. The spiritual and physical realms are not separate in any means. There's a book called the 4th Dimensional Living in a 3 Dimensional world that explains this in full, Biblical detail. This is real, man. It's nothing to be afraid of (Whom shall we fear?) but it is something to be aware of. How can you know to fight against an enemy if you don't know where or how he moves? I would recommend that book as well, Brian. You can probably find both of these at your library. </p>

Acutally, I do think they are very real conditions too. But I do think that demons can and will make it worse. Anyway my theory is where the normal anxiety, depression, negitivty ends is where the demons pick up and make them worse. Atleast for Christians. As for how I know it's a natural thing too, It's because non-Christian have problems with the same things, and demons have no reason to attack them since they are already on satan's side.

<p>Here are those pictures:</p>
<p><a href="http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/Charissa080/Bible_fear_depression_negativity/" target="_blank">http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/Charissa080/Bible_fear_depression_negativity/</a>
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thanks
 
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