Is it even Biblical to Pray for a Person’s Salvation?

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IceAndFire1328

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I would like to start a new thread based on this article. The original can be found at:

Biblehelp.org
(Use by permission of author)

Is it even Biblical to Pray for a Person’s Salvation?

It is not uncommon for a Christian to ask other Christians to pray for the salvation of someone they are concerned about. Although this concern for the person’s eternal destiny is commendable, is it Biblical; will God answer these prayers?

If you were to survey Christians with this question, you would get a large variety of answers ranging from “Yes, of course. God desires that we intervene on the behalf of others,” all the way to, “Definitely no; what ARROGANCE!!!!”

After doing a great deal of research on this subject, I’ve come to the conclusion that there are two main reasons why people feel we should not pray for someone else’s salvation. They are:


  1. We don’t have the right to make that type of decision for someone else
  2. God has never instructed us to pray for the salvation of others


[NOTE: I did not include the rest of the article because of its length. The author continues on and addresses the two points listed above. Please go to Biblehelp.org to see the rest of the article.]
 
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Prayer is very powerful, but we must be careful how we pray and what we pray for, I know many are in need of prayer for many hardships, health, and relationships, etc,, but the best was to get the truth to someone is through giving them the true gospel, and praying to God to open the door and make opportunities for you to be a light and witness for the trutrh, but sad to say very few are preaching the truth today!

Hope this helps!

Please pray for me!
Act 26:18 In order to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light, and from the authority of Satan to God, so that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.
Prayer is a powerful tool for those who have come to a real saving faith! This tool can be uses 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, and is always open with a powerful ear to hear IF we are walking not after the flesh, but after the spirit in reality!
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
But today, the professing Christian world is crying out for prayer, as well as those who really want nothing to do with God, it seems then to be some sort of a tradition the unsaved and lukewarm use, to feel better about their situation, no matter how grievous it is!
They have a false sense of security in believing God hears their vain prayers, asking Him to do and give things to them, but they have no intention what so ever to obey His commands!
They also fail to understand that the Lord is against the wicked, has nothing for them, and does not acknowledge their prayers in any way, shape or form!
Pro 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but He hears the prayers of the righteous.
Now many will come and pray out to God as a final cry for help, where they can see they have no way out of a certain situation, or have absolutely no control over a crises heading their way, or coming in their family or marriage.
They ask for help with their ongoing addictions to immoral acts, adultery, homosexuality, drug abuse, drunkenness, family abuse, asking for prayer and help in what to do!
Many well intentioned souls offer up many prayers to God, asking Him to heal them, give them strength through the hard times, or asking God to comfort them, and then instilling in the struggling sinner, that all’s they have to do is trust that God will help them through their pet sins, or grant them a wonderful plan, while their heart hardens in their sins!
Families are falling apart, our country is on the fringe of destruction and judgment, evil is called good, and good evil, men marrying men and women are marrying women, morality is just a pipe dream that puts the righteous ones at odds, and labeled a legalist, evil, and a real kill joy!
The world and all its leaders are screaming out for answers to the gun problems, the hate crimes, mass murdering and suicides, as well as all the immorality, especially the evil crimes coming from our youth, who are left in limbo as to what to do in desperate times.
But what should be the prayer offered up to God! What would get His attention, and give Him motive to intervene and heal the dead and corrupt church and world?
One thing, which has been missing for many, many years, from the professing Christian world!
A prayer so radical and different from the norm, that those who bring it are not taken seriously and they cannot see past their own conceived notions about the nature of God, and what He is simply asking His creation to do.
We must pray for repentance on the scale of Nineveh, followed by a powerful working faith through love, inspired by the likes of Abraham, and many other strong men and women of God listed in the Bible.
Without this mass repentance happening first and foremost, where the vile sins stop, the heart is cleared and purified of all wrong doing and darkness, then any other prayer is just a mere lip service to God, void of any real life service, as many who want reformation to occur, bank their dreams and prayers on sinking sand and not on the commands of God, to repent, stop sinning, seek His mercy and hope He relents!
Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
I know the norm is to gather around the sinner, and offer up a nice safe prayer, asking God to heal them, and intervene in their time of troubles, or insure them that God has a wonderful plan for their life, and He will provide a wonderful focus group for them to join so they can begin to heal.
And those who come and pray for repentance, and heart purity, are not being very kind and are being unloving, especially when you pray that God’s Holy Spirit will convict them deeply of their sin against Him, leading to a changed heart from the inside out!
This heart needs to be cleansed and purged from all dead works; see Hebrews 9-14, ready to serve the living God!
Now when the professed church seeks prayer from God, why not suggest they start out praying for God to lead them to real brokenness, contriteness, humility, and repentance on the scale of Nineveh, where they actually do their first works as commanded, by laying aside all filthiness and wickedness, now able to receive with meekness the implanted world of God, thus becoming a doer of the word and not a hearer only deceiving themselves!
Jas 1:21 Therefore putting aside all filthiness and overflowing of evil, receive in meekness the implanted Word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Yes prayer is a powerful tool, but only if it is used properly, with a right heart, that has been made pure and righteous by an obedient faith, that can only come from real repentance and faith proven by deeds as commanded in the word of God!
Tommy
 

Angela53510

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I was just hearing about this somewhere. Paul asks for prayer for himself, for other believers. Really, I can't find anywhere it says to pray for non-believers. In spite of that, I do pray prayers like "Lord, strike the scales from their eyes that they may see your truth" and "Holy Spirit reveal yourself and Jesus Christ to this person."

I have wondered if I am not praying according to God's will. On the other hand, I prayed every day for my father for 32 years. My grandmother prayed for him before that. 5 months before he died, I was able to lead him to the Lord. I cannot believe his hard humanist hard would have repented and understood the gospel, to the point where he was driving the nursing staff crazy telling them about Jesus, had I not interceded for him so long.

So do we pray for the Holy Spirit to move in people's hearts, or just leave it totally to God?
 

cookie39

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WE ALWAYS SHALL PRAY THE WILL OF GOD....
2 Peter 3:9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.

Matthew 9:13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Mark 2:17When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5:32I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 15:7I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Who did Jesus even come to the world to save in the first place?? He did not tell us to forget about the unbelievers..... don't forget God heard prayers from someone who cared enough for all of us....
Don't forget when Paul cast a spirit of divination out of the woman who followed them for days...... She did NOT ask He to deliver her from that spirit... But he did, and she no longer could do what that spirit led her to do...... EVERY spirit is subject to us who are the children of God............ The effectual fervant prayers of a righteous man availeth much.... So wouldn't we use our prayers for those who Christ Actual gave his life for.... I in my opinion would think it is very arrogant of someone to even think God don't want us to pray for those His Son truly died for..... He did not come to save that person who think they are good enough that that forget where God brought them from.......

GOD SAID THAT WE ARE NOT TO LEAN TO OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, But with prayer and supplications MAKE OUR REQUEST KNOWN UNTO HIM........ Jesus said, Believe IN GOD, and what so ever we ask/speak to God in His name... believing that we received it..WE SHALL HAVE IT......






 
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Ariel82

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???? you should pray that your unbeliever spouse will come to know God, that's in the Bible.

I think you should pray and know that God will answer in His time and according to His will.

why would you NOT pray for your loved ones to know God and be saved?

1. we are not making the decision for them. we are praying that God help them know Him for the prayers of a righteous man availeth much.

2. God tells us to pray.
 
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Powemm

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I pray for both - believers and unbelievers ..
But by prayers and supplication "let your requests be made known "
 
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Is it even Biblical to Pray for a Person’s Salvation?

It is not uncommon for a Christian to ask other Christians to pray for the salvation of someone they are concerned about. Although this concern for the person’s eternal destiny is commendable, is it Biblical; will God answer these prayers?

If you were to survey Christians with this question, you would get a large variety of answers ranging from “Yes, of course. God desires that we intervene on the behalf of others,” all the way to, “Definitely no; what ARROGANCE!!!!”

After doing a great deal of research on this subject, I’ve come to the conclusion that there are two main reasons why people feel we should not pray for someone else’s salvation. They are:
We don’t have the right to make that type of decision for someone elseGod has never instructed us to pray for the salvation of others.
The NT tells us to pray about everything, taking our concerns to God.

I don't need to sort it all out, it's just great to be able to tell Jesus all about it, and leave my concerns with him.
 
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Professor

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When I was first saved, in July, my boyfriend (now fiancé) was not at all interested in God. But the night I was saved, God told me that my boyfriend was a gift from God. So I prayed for my boyfriend's soul every day so that he might come to know God. Guess what?! My fiancé now believes in God and goes to church with me! The past couple of weeks there has been a bit of a setback, but I continue to pray for his soul every day. God is faithful. I have seen my fiancé's transformation!

I would like to start a new thread based on this article. The original can be found at:

Biblehelp.org
(Use by permission of author)

Is it even Biblical to Pray for a Person’s Salvation?

It is not uncommon for a Christian to ask other Christians to pray for the salvation of someone they are concerned about. Although this concern for the person’s eternal destiny is commendable, is it Biblical; will God answer these prayers?

If you were to survey Christians with this question, you would get a large variety of answers ranging from “Yes, of course. God desires that we intervene on the behalf of others,” all the way to, “Definitely no; what ARROGANCE!!!!”

After doing a great deal of research on this subject, I’ve come to the conclusion that there are two main reasons why people feel we should not pray for someone else’s salvation. They are:


  1. We don’t have the right to make that type of decision for someone else
  2. God has never instructed us to pray for the salvation of others


[NOTE: I did not include the rest of the article because of its length. The author continues on and addresses the two points listed above. Please go to Biblehelp.org to see the rest of the article.]
 

crossnote

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I would like to start a new thread based on this article. The original can be found at:

Biblehelp.org
(Use by permission of author)

Is it even Biblical to Pray for a Person’s Salvation?

It is not uncommon for a Christian to ask other Christians to pray for the salvation of someone they are concerned about. Although this concern for the person’s eternal destiny is commendable, is it Biblical; will God answer these prayers?

If you were to survey Christians with this question, you would get a large variety of answers ranging from “Yes, of course. God desires that we intervene on the behalf of others,” all the way to, “Definitely no; what ARROGANCE!!!!”

After doing a great deal of research on this subject, I’ve come to the conclusion that there are two main reasons why people feel we should not pray for someone else’s salvation. They are:


  1. We don’t have the right to make that type of decision for someone else
  2. God has never instructed us to pray for the salvation of others


[NOTE: I did not include the rest of the article because of its length. The author continues on and addresses the two points listed above. Please go to Biblehelp.org to see the rest of the article.]
I wonder if those who hold to points #1 and #2 have children? ...just sayin
 

JaumeJ

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It is Biblical to pray for our enemies. It stands to reason anyone who is saved is family in Jesus, Yeshua, while any enemy would be His enemy. With this in mind, about the only thing we could pray for them is for their eternal salvation. We cannot bless any wrong doer for what they do for that would be participating in their wrong doing, their sin. Take it from there. It falls under the geat laws of love. God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen
 
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Our prayers are to be guided by the natural laws that God gives, not by anything else.

First,we are to be sure our prayer is directed to the One True God, which we do when we give Him praise. In the Lord’s Prayer we say Our Father in Heaven . Hallowed be Thy Name. Notice we are to direct it to the triune God, not only one manifestation of God like only the Holy Ghost or only Christ.

Next we are to tell Him we agree that what we ask to be granted if it is within His will and for His Kingdom on earth.

Then we are to cleanse ourself of any sin that interferes with our communication with God, by taking advantage of the forgiveness through Christ we are offered.

Next we are to wipe out any grudges we have against our brothers, we forgive others, so Christ is free to forgive us.

With all that out of the way, if we pray amiss, God will forgive us. God will decide if our prayers for a person to be led to salvation is something in line with God’s Kingdom Come.