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7/4/12 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy During an Online Conversation, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

This question was being discussed: Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?


[The Lord answered] Many yet fear Me, even the wicked deep within, yet just a very few have any love for God in their hearts, says The Lord. For this nation is most perverse; even in their fear of The Lord is their perversion of My image clearly seen. Thus I tell you, I have spit them out already. Behold, even the earth shall vomit them out, for they have greatly defiled the land... A multitude of dry branches broken off, which shall by no means be grafted in again, until they fall hard upon their faces, crying out, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord!”

Behold, this nation plants seeds of perversion, without ceasing! They cultivate abominations and reap sin all day long, and into the night they revel in all their uncleanness! And when I look down upon this nation, I see Sodom bursting forth and Gomorrah overtaking the land! And when I peer deeper still, I see one nation in agreement, a people in love with themselves, a nation which loves its harlotries more than God!... A very adulterous people! A most wicked generation!... BEHOLD! EVEN A WHOLE NATION OF MURDERERS IS BEFORE MY EYES!

Therefore I am come down to tread, until every wicked person is crushed beneath My feet and every evil man in authority dies a grievous death in this land! For I must make room.



Behold, I shall purge this great and awful vineyard...


I shall uproot and destroy, until that which was lost is found
And that which was hidden is brought out into the open...


Until that which I have searched for is seen, once again,
And it too is removed and taken...



I AM THE LORD.


(LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST)
 
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The supreme court is hearing same sex marriage as we type need I say more? Most of the leaders in dc hate Yeshua I mean HATE!!!!!!!
 
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7/4/12 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy During an Online Conversation, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

This question was being discussed: Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?


[The Lord answered] Many yet fear Me, even the wicked deep within, yet just a very few have any love for God in their hearts, says The Lord. For this nation is most perverse; even in their fear of The Lord is their perversion of My image clearly seen. Thus I tell you, I have spit them out already. Behold, even the earth shall vomit them out, for they have greatly defiled the land... A multitude of dry branches broken off, which shall by no means be grafted in again, until they fall hard upon their faces, crying out, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord!”

Behold, this nation plants seeds of perversion, without ceasing! They cultivate abominations and reap sin all day long, and into the night they revel in all their uncleanness! And when I look down upon this nation, I see Sodom bursting forth and Gomorrah overtaking the land! And when I peer deeper still, I see one nation in agreement, a people in love with themselves, a nation which loves its harlotries more than God!... A very adulterous people! A most wicked generation!... BEHOLD! EVEN A WHOLE NATION OF MURDERERS IS BEFORE MY EYES!

Therefore I am come down to tread, until every wicked person is crushed beneath My feet and every evil man in authority dies a grievous death in this land! For I must make room.



Behold, I shall purge this great and awful vineyard...


I shall uproot and destroy, until that which was lost is found
And that which was hidden is brought out into the open...


Until that which I have searched for is seen, once again,
And it too is removed and taken...



I AM THE LORD.


(LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST)
I don’t think the US was ever a “God-fearing” nation, and if it was I missed it


James 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
 

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7/4/12 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy During an Online Conversation, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

This question was being discussed: Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?


[The Lord answered] Many yet fear Me, even the wicked deep within, yet just a very few have any love for God in their hearts, says The Lord. For this nation is most perverse; even in their fear of The Lord is their perversion of My image clearly seen. Thus I tell you, I have spit them out already. Behold, even the earth shall vomit them out, for they have greatly defiled the land... A multitude of dry branches broken off, which shall by no means be grafted in again, until they fall hard upon their faces, crying out, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord!”

Behold, this nation plants seeds of perversion, without ceasing! They cultivate abominations and reap sin all day long, and into the night they revel in all their uncleanness! And when I look down upon this nation, I see Sodom bursting forth and Gomorrah overtaking the land! And when I peer deeper still, I see one nation in agreement, a people in love with themselves, a nation which loves its harlotries more than God!... A very adulterous people! A most wicked generation!... BEHOLD! EVEN A WHOLE NATION OF MURDERERS IS BEFORE MY EYES!

Therefore I am come down to tread, until every wicked person is crushed beneath My feet and every evil man in authority dies a grievous death in this land! For I must make room.



Behold, I shall purge this great and awful vineyard...


I shall uproot and destroy, until that which was lost is found
And that which was hidden is brought out into the open...


Until that which I have searched for is seen, once again,
And it too is removed and taken...



I AM THE LORD.


(LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST)
Just full of condemnation, no encouragement whatsoever in any shape or form, just have a look at the Letters in Revelation chapters 2 & 3 and see that the Love of Christ, even for the disobedient and sinful flows out to them with a balance of not only their true state, but also wonderful promises for the repentant, so, I find it hard to see how this prophecy is from the Lord Jesus...
 
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Not to be mean but could someone tell me what (letters from god and his christ) is all about thank you I did try google lots of info nothing to direct thanks.
 
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Are you serious? The Lord talked to a Timothy online? That is very strange. God only speaks to us today through His word. The Bible is what we go by and it says if man ADD to or TAKE away let him be anathema.
 

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Are you serious? The Lord talked to a Timothy online? That is very strange. God only speaks to us today through His word. The Bible is what we go by and it says if man ADD to or TAKE away let him be anathema.
According to the scriptures, the gospel is that Jesus sent to us the Holy Spirit to comfort us, teach us all things, and to remind us everything that God has spoken to us. Nowhere in scripture is it written that the scriptures are the only communication that God has with His people (look, you won't find it). As a matter of fact, you will find it a hypocrisy to say so because it is written otherwise.

Also, nowhere in the scriptures is it written that the scriptures are the word of God. It is written that the scriptures were inspired by the spirit of God. The Word of God was made flesh (not paper and ink), it is written upon our hearts, and it is near to us (even in our mouths). All of these things are written in the holy scriptures. Jesus himself called them the scriptures; NOT the Word of God.

It is also clearly written in the scriptures what the scriptures are for... but nowhere is it written that they are so one may hear from God. Not one servant of God written in the scriptures claimed to hear God only through the scriptures. This is the same teaching of the Pharisees and scribes that Jesus rebuked. No one can come to the Father except by Jesus... not the scriptures. Without the gift of the Holy Spirit that Jesus gave, one cannot even understand the holy scriptures.
 

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7/4/12 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy During an Online Conversation, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

This question was being discussed: Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?


[The Lord answered] Many yet fear Me, even the wicked deep within, yet just a very few have any love for God in their hearts, says The Lord. For this nation is most perverse; even in their fear of The Lord is their perversion of My image clearly seen. Thus I tell you, I have spit them out already. Behold, even the earth shall vomit them out, for they have greatly defiled the land... A multitude of dry branches broken off, which shall by no means be grafted in again, until they fall hard upon their faces, crying out, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord!”

Behold, this nation plants seeds of perversion, without ceasing! They cultivate abominations and reap sin all day long, and into the night they revel in all their uncleanness! And when I look down upon this nation, I see Sodom bursting forth and Gomorrah overtaking the land! And when I peer deeper still, I see one nation in agreement, a people in love with themselves, a nation which loves its harlotries more than God!... A very adulterous people! A most wicked generation!... BEHOLD! EVEN A WHOLE NATION OF MURDERERS IS BEFORE MY EYES!

Therefore I am come down to tread, until every wicked person is crushed beneath My feet and every evil man in authority dies a grievous death in this land! For I must make room.



Behold, I shall purge this great and awful vineyard...


I shall uproot and destroy, until that which was lost is found
And that which was hidden is brought out into the open...


Until that which I have searched for is seen, once again,
And it too is removed and taken...



I AM THE LORD.


(LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST)
Thank you for sharing this Timothy.

Two years ago the Lord revealed to me that the United States as a nation has turned its back on Him despite the warnings of the prophets and the following judgments. I asked Him what would become of the United States. He told me that when this nation turned its back on Israel, the fate of the nation would be sealed and its judgment would soon come after. After being told then by many that the United States would never do such a thing, I have watched as the United States government has slowly backed away from supporting Israel. The war will take place soon. The United States will not help. Judgment will come soon after upon the nation for its sins. Revelations 18

Grace and peace be to you through our Lord, Jesus Christ. Amen
 

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The Bible is not the Word of God?

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." 1 Tim. 3:16-17

My big objection to this post is that this is an international forum. You only have to scroll for a minute in any thread to see the flags of many nations, around the world.

Why are we not debating whether China is a Christian nation, or Argentina, or Canada? The US is not the center of the world any more, sorry to inform you. The debt of the US alone is enough reason for that.

I do think there are many godly people in the US, and around the world. But it does seem like the harvest is not great in the western nations.

This prophecy is extra-biblical and personally I do not even understand what the point of it is. Why not encourage people to share the gospel, instead of condemning them?

The church today, is those who believe in Jesus. There is no nation that inherits the rights once given to Israel. She was chosen by God, did not obey, and were scattered. But, we still have Jesus the Messiah from the branch of Jesse, the son of David, and that is how we are all bound together.

Not by nationalistic ties. But by the blood of the Lamb!
 

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Just full of condemnation, no encouragement whatsoever in any shape or form, just have a look at the Letters in Revelation chapters 2 & 3 and see that the Love of Christ, even for the disobedient and sinful flows out to them with a balance of not only their true state, but also wonderful promises for the repentant, so, I find it hard to see how this prophecy is from the Lord Jesus...
Matthew 7
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Matthew 12
[SUP]34 [/SUP]O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 17
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

We are called to righteousness; that those that believe SHOULD not perish. God will not be mocked. God has not changed. There are those in the United States that hear the voice of the Lord concerning His warnings and instruction. God always has a remnant.

[SUP]Matthew 7
13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
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Good post, the time is right for repentance on the scale of Nineveh, but the stiffnecked church and world refuses, and heaps up the wrath of God!

Jer 6:15
Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that

I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

Redemption came at a VERY HIGH Cost; the incorruptible and precious blood of Christ! If Obedience to Him cannot Purify man’s heart from the corruption of sin and free him from its bondage then ‘sin on’ until the Judgment! Quote Mike D. standingthegap.org


I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works. Rev 2-23...

 
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When America enslaved the lost tribes of Israel here in this land, they already set their fate. But they had to live out their rule just as Egypt, Babylon and all the other nations did. America was doomed from the first laying of stones.
 

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The Bible is not the Word of God?

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." 1 Tim. 3:16-17

My big objection to this post is that this is an international forum. You only have to scroll for a minute in any thread to see the flags of many nations, around the world.

Why are we not debating whether China is a Christian nation, or Argentina, or Canada? The US is not the center of the world any more, sorry to inform you. The debt of the US alone is enough reason for that.

I do think there are many godly people in the US, and around the world. But it does seem like the harvest is not great in the western nations.

Yes, there is a remnant in the United States.

This prophecy is extra-biblical and personally I do not even understand what the point of it is. Why not encourage people to share the gospel, instead of condemning them?

This post is not condemning. It is a warning of the impending judgment that comes to the nation. It is for the people specifically of that nation.

This message does encourage me. It encourages me to further separate myself from the wickedness of this nation and to seek God's will concerning this since I currently reside in the U.S..

The church today, is those who believe in Jesus. There is no nation that inherits the rights once given to Israel. She was chosen by God, did not obey, and were scattered. But, we still have Jesus the Messiah from the branch of Jesse, the son of David, and that is how we are all bound together.

And yes, I agree with you that Israel (those that believe on Christ Jesus) are scattered throughout the earth just as God said and is written in the old testament. Also remember that God promised to gather His people together once again for the day of the Lord. Joel, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Matthew 13 (the gathering of the wheat) I am looking forward to that glorious day!

Not by nationalistic ties. But by the blood of the Lamb!
There were many that were warned before the holocaust of World War II. There were those that were also warned before the calamity of Japan in March of 2011.

Amos 3
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
 

Markum1972

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The Bible is not the Word of God?

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." 1 Tim. 3:16-17

My big objection to this post is that this is an international forum. You only have to scroll for a minute in any thread to see the flags of many nations, around the world.

Why are we not debating whether China is a Christian nation, or Argentina, or Canada? The US is not the center of the world any more, sorry to inform you. The debt of the US alone is enough reason for that.

I do think there are many godly people in the US, and around the world. But it does seem like the harvest is not great in the western nations.

This prophecy is extra-biblical and personally I do not even understand what the point of it is. Why not encourage people to share the gospel, instead of condemning them?

The church today, is those who believe in Jesus. There is no nation that inherits the rights once given to Israel. She was chosen by God, did not obey, and were scattered. But, we still have Jesus the Messiah from the branch of Jesse, the son of David, and that is how we are all bound together.

Not by nationalistic ties. But by the blood of the Lamb!
John 1
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

2 Corinthians 3
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Romans 10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


You see? I have not come to discredit the scriptures by any means. Only to show a significant difference. The Word was made flesh; that through the Lord Jesus, it would be IN you. :)
 
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The Bible is not the Word of God?

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." 1 Tim. 3:16-17

My big objection to this post is that this is an international forum. You only have to scroll for a minute in any thread to see the flags of many nations, around the world.

Why are we not debating whether China is a Christian nation, or Argentina, or Canada? The US is not the center of the world any more, sorry to inform you. The debt of the US alone is enough reason for that.
Probably because he's an American. People from Argentina are free to make similar posts. Or Chinese, or Canadian. Why does the fact that this is an international thread mean he can't make country specific posts? No one is required to read or respond. If you think its a question or post irrelevant to you, don't read it. But it may still be relevant to the people affected by it.
And yes, if you scroll down you do see other country flags, even in this thread, and these non-Americans are giving responses to this posts question. So obviously they don't have a problem with the post being American aimed.

Is someone saying America is the center of the world? Since when is asking about your own country making it the center of the world? We have Indian and Filipino chat rooms and forum categories, does that mean they are the center of the world since they're singled out? Or is it just a special interest category for those INTERESTED and if you aren't, you just stay out.

You seem a bit angry about this post and a bit rude as well. Full of non-points and unfounded accusation. There's nothing wrong with a person making a post centered around their own country on an international forum, and it doesn't mean that person thinks his country is the center of the world. Don't be so judgmental.
 

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Probably because he's an American. People from Argentina are free to make similar posts. Or Chinese, or Canadian. Why does the fact that this is an international thread mean he can't make country specific posts? No one is required to read or respond. If you think its a question or post irrelevant to you, don't read it. But it may still be relevant to the people affected by it.
And yes, if you scroll down you do see other country flags, even in this thread, and these non-Americans are giving responses to this posts question. So obviously they don't have a problem with the post being American aimed.

Is someone saying America is the center of the world? Since when is asking about your own country making it the center of the world? We have Indian and Filipino chat rooms and forum categories, does that mean they are the center of the world since they're singled out? Or is it just a special interest category for those INTERESTED and if you aren't, you just stay out.

You seem a bit angry about this post and a bit rude as well. Full of non-points and unfounded accusation. There's nothing wrong with a person making a post centered around their own country on an international forum, and it doesn't mean that person thinks his country is the center of the world. Don't be so judgmental.
Now now... let's not get ugly. Oh wait... umm... LOL J/K I couldn't resist. :p
 
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I don't think the USA ever was a God-fearing nation, to be honest. The world is under the sway of its prince, and always has been. When the white man brough Christianity to the Americas, it was never his intent to be Christ-like.
 

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These self proclaimed prophets are 'bold' in cyberspace but nowhere to be found in the marketplace.
 

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Matthew7
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter intothe kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is inheaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we notprophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy namedone many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart fromme, ye that work iniquity.


Matthew 12
[SUP]34 [/SUP]O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak goodthings? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 17
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perversegeneration, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bringhim hither to me.

We are called to righteousness; that those that believe SHOULD not perish. Godwill not be mocked. God has not changed. There are those in the United Statesthat hear the voice of the Lord concerning His warnings and instruction. Godalways has a remnant.

[SUP]Matthew 7
13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is theway, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadethunto life, and few there be that find it.


It's a pity that you suffer from the same critical spirit as the loveless person who gave the said 'prophecy!'

Get a life fellow!
 

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7/4/12 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy During an Online Conversation, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

This question was being discussed: Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?


[The Lord answered] Many yet fear Me, even the wicked deep within, yet just a very few have any love for God in their hearts, says The Lord. For this nation is most perverse; even in their fear of The Lord is their perversion of My image clearly seen. Thus I tell you, I have spit them out already. Behold, even the earth shall vomit them out, for they have greatly defiled the land... A multitude of dry branches broken off, which shall by no means be grafted in again, until they fall hard upon their faces, crying out, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord!”

Behold, this nation plants seeds of perversion, without ceasing! They cultivate abominations and reap sin all day long, and into the night they revel in all their uncleanness! And when I look down upon this nation, I see Sodom bursting forth and Gomorrah overtaking the land! And when I peer deeper still, I see one nation in agreement, a people in love with themselves, a nation which loves its harlotries more than God!... A very adulterous people! A most wicked generation!... BEHOLD! EVEN A WHOLE NATION OF MURDERERS IS BEFORE MY EYES!

Therefore I am come down to tread, until every wicked person is crushed beneath My feet and every evil man in authority dies a grievous death in this land! For I must make room.



Behold, I shall purge this great and awful vineyard...


I shall uproot and destroy, until that which was lost is found
And that which was hidden is brought out into the open...


Until that which I have searched for is seen, once again,
And it too is removed and taken...



I AM THE LORD.


(LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST)
Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?

apparently not - they believe guys like you are prophets through whom God is speaking.