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    Quote Originally Posted by sinless View Post
    Yes Homeward apart from Christ I am nothing but a sinner, a murderer, and any other sinful act or thought you can think of. It is by Grace and grace alone that I am able to bring myself into obedience to our Lord.

    You see, it takes God to love God. We need the Spirit's impartation of God's love in us to equip us to love God. Our love for God is a gift from God to us. Our love and desire for God is an expression of His desire for us. We are able to walk victoriously over sin in love with Jesus because of our Bridal identity, and the knowledge of this truth.
    bridal identity huh?
    sounds like Mike Bickle & IHOP again.

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    Is It Really All About Intimacy & Eschatology?
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    Is It Really All About Intimacy &*Eschatology? | The Gospel Masquerade

    i wonder if i have anything else.
    the search feature works well enough.

    or...sinless, maybe you could just define BRIDAL IDENTITY.

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    all the Bridal Identity IHOP guys love Galatians 2:20.



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    You have something against the Bride, Zone?
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    If you do not understand your bridal identity then you cannot understand true love. Maybe this is why you hate those who love God?

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    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

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    Why is our Bridal identity necessary?

    Here are 3 resons we need the revelation of our Bridal identity (The understanding that Jesus sees us as His cherished Bride. That He loves above, and beyond anything our imagination can conceive)

    #1 We learn to love God through the revelation of His love for us.
    #2 When we love God our spirit comes alive and frees us from the bondage of sin, so that we need no longer live therein.
    #3 Out of the overflow of our love for God we will love others in the way Christ does, we will not help ourselves, but to have compassion on them, ministering to their need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    bridal identity huh?
    sounds like Mike Bickle & IHOP again.

    hmm....what do i have on that? let's see







































    Mike Bickle and International House of Prayer


    The Latter Rain Redivivus
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    Critical Issues Commentary: Mike Bickle and International House of Prayer


    Is It Really All About Intimacy & Eschatology?
    Posted: April 20, 2010
    in Bridal Paradigm, IHOP, Mike Bickle

    Is It Really All About Intimacy &*Eschatology? | The Gospel Masquerade

    i wonder if i have anything else.
    the search feature works well enough.

    or...sinless, maybe you could just define BRIDAL IDENTITY.

    thanks
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    You are awesome sis your killing me LOL

    This is a true story someone asked me if I had been to ihop I said I love it rooty toooty fresh and fruity who doesent love ihop I didnt even know of biffel bickel babel RRRRRR LOL This guy claims with his own mouth he raised his son from the dead in a morgue and when the kid came back from the dead he was still high for three days on the over dose I said what. Lazarus came back he wasnt still sick Paul and the young man that fell still didnt have a broken neck I laugh so hard the people that were believing this stuff got very angry with me until I pointed this out in the N/T They just looked at me it is sad what people will follow instead of the truth!!!!
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    We are not to follow any man, men or organization, we are to follow Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinless View Post
    You have something against the Bride, Zone?
    nope....but you've been banned at least x2.
    hopefully once more 4runner
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    Quote Originally Posted by wdeaton65 View Post
    You are awesome sis your killing me LOL

    This is a true story someone asked me if I had been to ihop I said I love it rooty toooty fresh and fruity who doesent love ihop I didnt even know of biffel bickel babel RRRRRR LOL This guy claims with his own mouth he raised his son from the dead in a morgue and when the kid came back from the dead he was still high for three days on the over dose I said what. Lazarus came back he wasnt still sick Paul and the young man that fell still didnt have a broken neck I laugh so hard the people that were believing this stuff got very angry with me until I pointed this out in the N/T They just looked at me it is sad what people will follow instead of the truth!!!!
    C-U-L-T fo sho.
    and ya...homosexual behind the curtains. everybody knows that by now.


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    Mike Bickle has authored several books one of which is his book Growing in the Prophetic. Bickle’s core teaching is concerning the return of Christ. Out of the book of Revelation he lifts certain key elements of his message (more about this in Part 2). He stated on a CBN interview the following, which seems to encapsulate Bickle’s essential message: “God doesn’t send his Son into a vacuum. God sends his Son in answer to a consistent global cry from the church.” Bickle continued: “God prophesies a day that the church in its identity as the bride of Christ will work in union with the Holy Spirit beckoning Christ to return…. The world-wide church will become in sync with the Holy Spirit crying out ‘Come Lord Jesus, break in! break in!’ and so Jesus will then come in His second coming and before that He will release a revival… the church will be interceding together [globally] just before the Lord returns. That is one of the great signs in Revelation of the second coming.” (Note he references the IHOP teaching on Bridal Paradigm and allegorizes of the Song of Solomon[10]).

    IHOP ENTERS DOMINION/CHRISTIAN RIGHT POLITICS : Apprising Ministries
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinless View Post
    Why is our Bridal identity necessary?

    Here are 3 resons we need the revelation of our Bridal identity (The understanding that Jesus sees us as His cherished Bride. That He loves above, and beyond anything our imagination can conceive)

    #1 We learn to love God through the revelation of His love for us.
    #2 When we love God our spirit comes alive and frees us from the bondage of sin, so that we need no longer live therein.
    #3 Out of the overflow of our love for God we will love others in the way Christ does, we will not help ourselves, but to have compassion on them, ministering to their need.
    innit special?

    i love the buzzwords...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    C-U-L-T fo sho.
    and ya...homosexual behind the curtains. everybody knows that by now.


    IHOP ENTERS DOMINION/CHRISTIAN RIGHT POLITICS

    Mike Bickle has authored several books one of which is his book Growing in the Prophetic. Bickle’s core teaching is concerning the return of Christ. Out of the book of Revelation he lifts certain key elements of his message (more about this in Part 2). He stated on a CBN interview the following, which seems to encapsulate Bickle’s essential message: “God doesn’t send his Son into a vacuum. God sends his Son in answer to a consistent global cry from the church.” Bickle continued: “God prophesies a day that the church in its identity as the bride of Christ will work in union with the Holy Spirit beckoning Christ to return…. The world-wide church will become in sync with the Holy Spirit crying out ‘Come Lord Jesus, break in! break in!’ and so Jesus will then come in His second coming and before that He will release a revival… the church will be interceding together [globally] just before the Lord returns. That is one of the great signs in Revelation of the second coming.” (Note he references the IHOP teaching on Bridal Paradigm and allegorizes of the Song of Solomon[10]).

    IHOP ENTERS DOMINION/CHRISTIAN RIGHT POLITICS : Apprising Ministries
    How do you know all of this stuff. You do show a great wide range of knowledge of these wack jobs.
    where did you learn about all these false teachers.
    Is there a site to go on LOL. Once you know the real deal I guess the counterfiets just cant fool you!! Thank you Yeshua keep it up sis. Blessings
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    Quote Originally Posted by wdeaton65 View Post
    How do you know all of this stuff. You do show a great wide range of knowledge of these wack jobs.
    where did you learn about all these false teachers.
    Is there a site to go on LOL. Once you know the real deal I guess the counterfiets just cant fool you!! Thank you Yeshua keep it up sis. Blessings
    oh i'm just your garden variety conspiracy theorist.
    paul was too apparently.

    2 Corinthians 11
    13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinless View Post
    We are not to follow any man, men or organization, we are to follow Christ.
    This is truth we are to have personal relation first and foremost with God the Father being our Father now then we fellowship in the Love God has shed abroad in our hearts by the resurrected Christ living in us via the Holy Ghost of promise best described in 1 Cor 13

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    oh i'm just your garden variety conspiracy theorist.
    paul was too apparently.

    2 Corinthians 11
    13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
    And so who are they who you say they are? Or do you think God might reveal truth to each one individually to those that really do believe? Is not the Holy Ghost who comes to live in us the teacher in each that believe the one that seperates error from truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    oh i'm just your garden variety conspiracy theorist.
    paul was too apparently.

    2 Corinthians 11
    13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
    I thought it my be well to read 2 cor 11 in context to waht Paul was saying
    2 Corinthians 11

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    Concern for Their Faithfulness

    11 Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly—and indeed you do bear with me. 2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity[a] that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!
    Paul and False Apostles

    5 For I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles. 6 Even though I am untrained in speech, yet I am not in knowledge. But we have been thoroughly manifested[b] among you in all things.
    7 Did I commit sin in humbling myself that you might be exalted, because I preached the gospel of God to you free of charge? 8 I robbed other churches, taking wages from them to minister to you. 9 And when I was present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no one, for what I lacked the brethren who came from Macedonia supplied. And in everything I kept myself from being burdensome to you, and so I will keep myself. 10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no one shall stop me from this boasting in the regions of Achaia. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows!
    12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

    Reluctant Boasting

    16 I say again, let no one think me a fool. If otherwise, at least receive me as a fool, that I also may boast a little. 17 What I speak, I speak not according to the Lord, but as it were, foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Seeing that many boast according to the flesh, I also will boast. 19 For you put up with fools gladly, since you yourselves are wise! 20 For you put up with it if one brings you into bondage, if one devours you, if one takes from you, if one exalts himself, if one strikes you on the face. 21 To our shame I say that we were too weak for that! But in whatever anyone is bold—I speak foolishly—I am bold also.

    Suffering for Christ

    22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? So am I. 23 Are they ministers of Christ?—I speak as a fool—I am more: in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequently, in deaths often. 24 From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26 in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 27 in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness— 28 besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation?

    30 If I must boast, I will boast in the things which concern my infirmity. 31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. 32 In Damascus the governor, under Aretas the king, was guarding the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desiring to arrest me; 33 but I was let down in a basket through a window in the wall, and escaped from his hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    oh i'm just your garden variety conspiracy theorist.
    paul was too apparently.

    2 Corinthians 11
    13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
    Ido not see sinless boasting according to the flesh forI ahve asked and sinless ahs answered I think you are mistranslating what he is saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homwardbound View Post
    Ido not see sinless boasting according to the flesh forI ahve asked and sinless ahs answered I think you are mistranslating what he is saying.
    you post a ton of stuff....extrapolate boasting, and hang it on me saying it about 'sinless'?
    please don't.
    i was talking to william.
    though it certainly does apply to our sinless friend, i didn't say that.
    you did.
    thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    nope....but you've been banned at least x2.
    hopefully once more 4runner
    Isnt 4runner 11 yrs younger than me?

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    Oh and I have no affiliation with IHOP or Mike Bickle although I have no problem with those that do

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