EVERY IDLE WORD...

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Matthew 12:36-37
Yeshua tells us this

36)"But I say to you that for every IDLE word men may speak, they will give account of it to the day of judgement
37)"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

If we take the time to really meditate and absorb the words being spoken by our Messiah in these verses, than we as the body of Messiah, we as those who claim to be believers have to really check themselves on if their walk is truly pleasing to YAH. (I'm talking to myself as well as anyone else)

I see so many who are so quick to declare changes in YAH's word, who with ease make declarations of what is relevant and what isn't.
I see more focus on trying to prove what we don't have to do, than what we should be doing to please our Father in Heaven.
If Yeshua tells us that we are not only going to be held accountable for every idle word, but will be justified or condemned by our words, shouldn't we be more focused on trying to do everything we can to be without spot and blemish in His eyes as the scriptures says He is returning for?
There is an air among the body that says, "Since Yeshua paid the price, we don't have to try anymore"
Yet I would be more inclined to think that we are held at a greater level of accountability because He took the punishment for us.
For when it all comes to a head, and we are standing before YAH, none of the people, family, church, pastor, anyone will be their to hold our hand or have our back.
We will stand alone before YAH to give an account for our lives. And even if we make it to heaven, do we want to risk losing any of our reward? As Paul says, run the race, go for the prize of the crowns of life. (Paraphrasing)
Do we want to be empty handed before the One who sacrificed Himself for us?

Hebrews10:31 IT IS A FEARFUL THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING YAH!

Matthew 7:13-14 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are MANY who go in by it.
"Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW who find it.

Here Yeshua tells us quite plainly, that the road to eternal life is no easy road and few will find it. Yet in the church, according to the teachings of it. It's a piece of cake.
Yeshua shows us that we have to be in the fullness of Him, in all of the Word of YAH.

1 Peter 4:18 NOW, "IF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE IS SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?"


RIGHTEOUS

dikaios

dik'-ah-yos


equitable
(in character or act); by implication innocent, holy,(absolutely or relatively): - just, meet, right (-eous).


So we have here, RIGHTEOUS, is innocent, holy. So scripture is telling us that those who are innocent and holy is scarcely saved.
Then what happens to those who add and take away from YAH's word?








 

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Look to who Jesus was addressing...those to who said He had a demon...not believers.

Matthew 12:24-25, 34-38 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This man doth not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.And knowing their thoughts he said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
Ye offspring of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
The good man out of his good treasure bringeth forth good things: and the evil man out of his evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
And I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Then certain of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying, Teacher, we would see a sign from thee.
 

zone

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eheheheh crossnote.
 
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Crossnote, so do you think you're exempt from this? Not to mention those aren't the only verses that I wrote that do include you and anyone else who claims they're a believer
 
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Zone, did you and whoever avinu was get along?
 
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Crossnote, so do you think you're exempt from this? Not to mention those aren't the only verses that I wrote that do include you and anyone else who claims they're a believer
Despite your attempt to condemn me, no, in Christ Jesus I am under none.
 

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Matthew 12:36-37
Yeshua tells us this

36)"But I say to you that for every IDLE word men may speak, they will give account of it to the day of judgement
37)"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

If we take the time to really meditate and absorb the words being spoken by our Messiah in these verses, than we as the body of Messiah, we as those who claim to be believers have to really check themselves on if their walk is truly pleasing to YAH. (I'm talking to myself as well as anyone else)

I see so many who are so quick to declare changes in YAH's word, who with ease make declarations of what is relevant and what isn't.
I see more focus on trying to prove what we don't have to do, than what we should be doing to please our Father in Heaven.
If Yeshua tells us that we are not only going to be held accountable for every idle word, but will be justified or condemned by our words, shouldn't we be more focused on trying to do everything we can to be without spot and blemish in His eyes as the scriptures says He is returning for?
There is an air among the body that says, "Since Yeshua paid the price, we don't have to try anymore"
Yet I would be more inclined to think that we are held at a greater level of accountability because He took the punishment for us.
For when it all comes to a head, and we are standing before YAH, none of the people, family, church, pastor, anyone will be their to hold our hand or have our back.
We will stand alone before YAH to give an account for our lives. And even if we make it to heaven, do we want to risk losing any of our reward? As Paul says, run the race, go for the prize of the crowns of life. (Paraphrasing)
Do we want to be empty handed before the One who sacrificed Himself for us?

Hebrews10:31 IT IS A FEARFUL THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING YAH!

Matthew 7:13-14 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are MANY who go in by it.
"Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW who find it.

Here Yeshua tells us quite plainly, that the road to eternal life is no easy road and few will find it. Yet in the church, according to the teachings of it. It's a piece of cake.
Yeshua shows us that we have to be in the fullness of Him, in all of the Word of YAH.

1 Peter 4:18 NOW, "IF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE IS SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?"


RIGHTEOUS

dikaios

dik'-ah-yos


equitable
(in character or act); by implication innocent, holy,(absolutely or relatively): - just, meet, right (-eous).


So we have here, RIGHTEOUS, is innocent, holy. So scripture is telling us that those who are innocent and holy is scarcely saved.
Then what happens to those who add and take away from YAH's word?








No I think we should Focus on seeking his heart. If we do this everything else will fall into place. The reason Loving god with all our hearts all our minds and all our souls is the greatest commandment is because when this connection is made with the heart of the father all the other commands naturally but sometimes slowly come and change our hearts to be like his. This is a very hard but wonderful road, and i am not even half way there yet LOL
 
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Despite your attempt to condemn me, no, in Christ Jesus I am not under none.

Condemn you crossnote? Do you feel guilty about something? In Messiah, you're not under what? Whether you accept it or not, you, me and every single living being will be held accountable. And the innocent and holy WILL scarcely be saved, JUST AS THE BIBLE SAYS.
 
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No I think we should Focus on seeking his heart. If we do this everything else will fall into place. The reason Loving god with all our hearts all our minds and all our souls is the greatest commandment is because when this connection is made with the heart of the father all the other commands naturally but sometimes slowly come and change our hearts to be like his. This is a very hard but wonderful road, and i am not even half way there yet LOL
AMEN Blain, that is a humble and honest answer, exactly how I feel and believe. YAH bless you and your seeking His Heart. Blessings
 

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Condemn you crossnote? Do you feel guilty about something? In Messiah, you're not under what? Whether you accept it or not, you, me and every single living being will be held accountable. And the innocent and holy WILL scarcely be saved, JUST AS THE BIBLE SAYS.
You make it sound Like god is going to condemn us for every sin we every did. If that is so why did Jesus die on the cross for us? Also Off topic here i have heard people say the heart of man is evil. You know sin and all and we do have a very long history of doing evil. But I don't know about that. If the heart of man is really evil why did god save us? I think he must see something deeper within, something in the heart of man that makes us a treasure to him.
 

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John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Condemn you crossnote? Do you feel guilty about something? In Messiah, you're not under what? Whether you accept it or not, you, me and every single living being will be held accountable. And the innocent and holy WILL scarcely be saved, JUST AS THE BIBLE SAYS.
Thoes sins you mentioned were alteady nailed to His cross. I serve Him out of love not your version of Torah.
 
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Condemn you crossnote? Do you feel guilty about something? In Messiah, you're not under what? Whether you accept it or not, you, me and every single living being will be held accountable. And the innocent and holy WILL scarcely be saved, JUST AS THE BIBLE SAYS.
That's not what it said.
 

Blain

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You make it sound Like god is going to condemn us for every sin we every did. If that is so why did Jesus die on the cross for us?
Also Off topic here i have heard people say the heart of man is evil. You know sin and all and we do have a very long history of doing evil. But I don't know about that. If the heart of man is really evil why did god save us? I think he must see something deeper within, something in the heart of man that makes us a treasure to him.
Also I meant this as an honest question i was not trying to be rude:]
 

zone

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John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Thoes sins you mentioned were alteady nailed to His cross. I serve Him out of love not your version of Torah.
come on crossnote...you must feel guilty about something.
you must feel guilty.
you must.
:)
 
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You make it sound Like god is going to condemn us for every sin we every did. If that is so why did Jesus die on the cross for us? Also Off topic here i have heard people say the heart of man is evil. You know sin and all and we do have a very long history of doing evil. But I don't know about that. If the heart of man is really evil why did god save us? I think he must see something deeper within, something in the heart of man that makes us a treasure to him.
If you really look at what I wrote, like from your first response. You see that what is in our face is what scripture says about those who are scarcely saved, those who will be held accountable for every idle word, etc.
As I also pointed out, the church as a whole on the radio, tv, internet, etc. makes salvation look easy. Yes we can be saved by asking forgiveness, and receiving what Yeshua did for us on the cross. But to handle it with a attitude that once I asked forgiveness I can pick and choose what I want to believe and what I declare irrelevent in scripture as I see fit. I can declare what rules I can keep and what I choose to declare was done away with, even though scripture doesn't confirm it.
My point being if Yeshua tells us that every idle word is held accountable, how much more should we be reverant to His written word and what it says? I am speaking to myself as much as anyone else. I constantly do a heart check, asking YAH to reveal to me anything in my walk that is unpleasing to Him. Willing to change it even if I think it is trivial. Because it is more important to me to make sure what I do is pleasing to Him(because He gave me the free gift of salvation)than to do or not do what I think is ok.
 
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No worries Blain, didn't take it this way. I'm cool with straight forwardness. It's clear when someone is just being conescending. I didn't get that from you. Blessings :)
 

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If you really look at what I wrote, like from your first response. You see that what is in our face is what scripture says about those who are scarcely saved, those who will be held accountable for every idle word, etc.
As I also pointed out, the church as a whole on the radio, tv, internet, etc. makes salvation look easy. Yes we can be saved by asking forgiveness, and receiving what Yeshua did for us on the cross. But to handle it with a attitude that once I asked forgiveness I can pick and choose what I want to believe and what I declare irrelevent in scripture as I see fit. I can declare what rules I can keep and what I choose to declare was done away with, even though scripture doesn't confirm it.
My point being if Yeshua tells us that every idle word is held accountable, how much more should we be reverant to His written word and what it says? I am speaking to myself as much as anyone else. I constantly do a heart check, asking YAH to reveal to me anything in my walk that is unpleasing to Him. Willing to change it even if I think it is trivial. Because it is more important to me to make sure what I do is pleasing to Him(because He gave me the free gift of salvation)than to do or not do what I think is ok.
Oh I see, I feel the same way. I always ask the father to burn everything in me that isn't him. I always ask him to let my words and even my thoughts be of him not me because it's me i don't trust