So...how old is the Earth?

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I'm not sure how expressing my view on the age of the earth (which is not even an important church "doctrine" as such) makes me a hypocrite.
You claim anyone that sways from othodox teaching are heretics, and then you sway from orthodox teaching. That is what makes you a hypocrite, and apparently according to you a heretic also.
 
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Is a young earth orthodox teaching? Age of the earth is not in the Nicene creed, the nature of God is.
 
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Is a young earth orthodox teaching? Age of the earth is not in the Nicene creed, the nature of God is.
Yes the young earth is an orthodox teaching. So now you are changing the rules. Now you are only a heretic if your views do not line up with the Nicene creed? What the church has always taught no longer matters when you disagree. Like I said what a hypocrite.
 
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So, are you a flat-earther or geocentrist and deny gravity exists too like your other oneness friend? If not I guess you're a bit of a hypocrite too according to your own definition - 6000 year old earth is not the only "orthodox" belief the church has held.

Not believing in the Trinity is a far greater stray from "orthodoxy" than believing different to 6000 years old. I wasn't aware that beliving in a young earth was fundamental - today even Catholics don't hold to that view. Didn't the early church tend to accept whatever secular knowledge was available at the time on these matters which are not important for matters of faith and doctrine?
 
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So, are you a flat-earther or geocentrist and deny gravity exists too like your other oneness friend? If not I guess you're a bit of a hypocrite too according to your own definition - 6000 year old earth is not the only "orthodox" belief the church has held.
You must be confusing me with yourself. You are the one that defined a heretic as someone that does not accept orthodox teaching. Therefore nothing I believe on the earth would make me a hypocrite, whether it lines up with orthodox treaching or not.
 
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You're still a bit sore that you are a heretic aren't you, well don't worry, you have many like-minded believers in the Jehovah's Witnesses.
There is nothing that I believe that JWs would agree with or vise versa thank you. And using your definition of heretic, I would gladly accept the label. However under that same definition your are both a heretic and hypocrite. :)
 
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You are a false teacher though due to not holding to the Trinity. Ask any mainstream church pastor. Ask yourself why your views are not on Christian apologetics websites, only other than to refute them. Even Benny Hinn's theolgoy is sounder than yours. But don't worry you've only been saved a few years so you can't expect to get everything right. The fact that you think you are right on your own without any sort of support from mainstream christian doctrine or theology, shows to what extent you are under the influence of religious pride.
 
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I hope you get over the attitude issues you and your beloved "remnant" have with the majority of Christianity.
I do not have a issue with the majority of ''christianity'', just with you. I feel sorry for most church goers, and pray daily that they will realized they are lost and repent.
 
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I do not have a issue with the majority of ''christianity'', just with you.
Is that because you can't accept being called a heretic? That sort of contradicts what you said in other places about enjoying being called a heretic and having thick skin. I think that thick skin you claim to have is getting thinner and thinner ;). Just shows to what extent christianity has backslid when they let anti-Trinitarians have leadership positions in churches and don't correct you.



I feel sorry for most church goers, and pray daily that they will realized they are lost and repent.
That's your religious pride talking there , that most others are lost, even Christians, and you are in the right, you and your "remnant". That is a serious delusion my friend.
You need to pray for yourself because you are in deep about the error you have with the nature of God. Get that log out of your eye first then you can deal with the "speck" in other's.
 
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Is that because you can't accept being called a heretic?
Nope I expect to be called a heretic. I just don't like you. If I really told what I thought about you I would probably get banded so I will simply say this.

Matthew 5
43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


God bless you.
 
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Well you are a heretic and a false teacher as long you deny the Trinity and teach contrary to sound doctrine. Evey church pastor I know from a variety of different denominations would agree. And the bible says stay away from people who don't hold to sound doctrine.
If you can't handle it - here's a tissue. You don't like it when that long judgemental finger of yours is pointed right back at you, do you?
 
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Well you are a heretic and a false teacher as long you deny the Trinity and teach contrary to sound doctrine. Evey church pastor I know would agree.
If you can't handle it - here's a tissue.
I may be a heretic according to your definition, but What i teach is the truth and the Word of God supports my position not yours. You are blind and prideful.
 
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I may be a heretic according to your definition, but What i teach is the truth and the Word of God supports my position not yours. You are blind and prideful.
That's not from the Holy Spirit but coming right from that religious spirit of pride you have. You only care about "your position", and dare to call me blind and prideful? I'm not the one who is teaching false doctrine (as established by 1700 years of Christianity) on fundamental Christian doctrines such as God's nature. What you teach is wrong and you don't teach the Word but only your own misguided opinion of it, whilst you sit there and accuse everyone else of being wrong and you are right, and that the majority of christianity is wrong and you are right. It's a bit like denouncing your own mother. I wouldn't be a Christian if it weren't for mainstream Christianity so I'm careful not to denounce it, particularly not things like the Nicene creed.
 
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The earth is 27 Pooplillion years old.
 
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That's not from the Holy Spirit
Shows how much you know. I would have never turned from my trinitarian beliefs if the Holy Spirit Himself had not opened my eyes. Maybe one day He will open yours.
 
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I believe the Bible tells us that God is responsible for creation, and that tells us that creation is the work of God and is of God. The Creation story tells us that important fact. I don't think the Bible is supposed to relay how the earth was made so much as why it was made.
co-sign.

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So now you, like most people believing in false doctrines, appeal to your subjective experiences rather than objective facts and truths established long ago. Its funny how the Spirit has only opened your eyes and not the majority of Christianity. But you know the Spirit has taught me and most others that the Trinity is true :S. Otherwise, I guess we'd all believe in Oneness too.
 
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Stephanie wrote in part:


Nice try, no evidence. God communicates to humans in human terms. Day means day esp. as noted above when they are number and described by evening and morning.

The quote from Peter actually proves the evolutionary uniformitarian position is wrong. What appears to them to have needed 1000 years (or a million +) could be done by God in a day.... which He did.
I'm really not interested in being a part of this conversation of people are going to be rude. We're all Christians, we're all moving towards the same goal. Let's chose our words wisely and treat each other well.
 
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