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ReneeW

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I'd love to chat, rather than just post in a forum, but here it goes.

I'm a student writing about christianity and they way it effects cultures...ie native cultures effect by missionary work.

Is it really right to believe that there is only one religion?
What makes christianity the right religion?
In the case of Scott Lively and Uganda...is that supported? The spreading of hate against another group (gay men and woman)?
Is there any respect for the native religion/culture/belief? Can there be respect for another belief when a person is being told what they believe is incorrect?

I am thankful for any input, thank you.
 
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Abiding

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I respect people with other beliefs. Correct or incorrect depends what you want in religion.
If you want eternal life that your creator has offered then that narrows it down.
Jesus ressurection raising Himself from the dead validated His claims as the savour
to whom ever believes in Him. With the promise of everlasting life in a sinfree existance

Now the socialogical effect isnt a safe way to guage which is best without determining whether you mean
best temporally or eternally. Because there are too many variables. But Historically
the nation that humbled themselves before Jesus Christ in obedience had the best results overall, in
every area.
 

willfollowsGod

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Actually, mostly every religion claims to be the truth. Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, etc all assume being the truth. There is a common misconception that Christian spread hate against another group, that is simply not true and if that is the case, then that is Westboro or something like that or some Christians need to help them realize their error. But God does say homosexuality is a sin in Leviticus and other parts of the OT, Romans in the New Testament and others there too. Another thing, just because a Christian is telling you that your belief system is wrong does not necessarily mean that they are not respecting your belief. Also, not all missionary work was bad. Sadly, there were a few rotten apples, but there was a lot of missionary work that was good. As for what makes Christianity the right religion? That is a complicated question. But the Bible has answers about it, unless one does not want to look at the Bible itself.

John 14:5-6

"Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Also, when you look at a lot of religions, you get to heaven or something like that through works and not faith. In Christianity, the problem is sin=rebellion, passive indifference, missing the mark of God. Due to that, we are separated from God and cannot know him. But there is a solution, Jesus Christ came to Earth, lived a life that no one else could live, died on a cross for the sins of the world, and resurrected on the third day. But the only way to accept Jesus Christ is by faith through Him and then that is when the inner transformation begins and then starts to be projected outwardly.

In the Bible, all the characters except Jesus, were flawed and did mistakes. David loved God but yet he lusted after Bathsheba and ordered that Uriah, her husband be killed. There are other examples too. Another thing, Christianity has archaeology to support it. There are been things found that support there being certain characters, there is the Cylinder of Nabonidus that mentions Belshazzar. There is also manuscript evidence. There are copies of the original and while the original may or may not be around anymore, when one looks at these manuscripts and puts them together, they fit together like pieces of a puzzle. There was even a time when scholars did not believe that the Hittites existed and said that the Bible was wrong. When it was discovered that the Hittites indeed existed, it was another evidence that the Bible was not wrong. There are more manuscripts of the Bible than the Iliad and other books. For the New Testament there are more than 5,000 Greek manuscripts and many of these can be dated to a few years of the lives of the authors. There is other evidence, if one were to look at it and there are books that mention this other evidence like The Case for Christ and others. So there is my input. Thank you for reading my responses. I may not know all the answers but a lot of them can be found in the Bible. But I do hope that you can better understand Christians because the culture of nowadays, tends to get us confused, does not understands us, and just goes by what the media says about certain groups, who are not as negative as many of them seem to be to the media.
 
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There is only one way and that is through Jesus. ReneeW, look at all the religions out there and you will see that they are based on works. Christianity is based on the work of Jesus on the cross and that we cannot attain righteousness of our own doing only by the cross. Islam, works. Buddhism, works. Any other false teaching, what can you do for me. Christianity, Look what I have done for you, the love of loves. Amen
 
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Ariel82

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I'd love to chat, rather than just post in a forum, but here it goes.
the site has a chat option.

I'm a student writing about christianity and they way it effects cultures...ie native cultures effect by missionary work.
field research?

Is it really right to believe that there is only one religion?
??? very vague statement... there are many religions and many gods but there is only ONE Truth. you can have many theories but only one of them is correct.

What makes christianity the right religion?
from your other questions I tend to doubt you understand the Bible or Christianity at all.

In the case of Scott Lively and Uganda...is that supported? The spreading of hate against another group (gay men and woman)?
hate is never supported. Is homosexuality a sin? yes. What does God say about it? Let vegenance be MINE and LOVE one another.

though I do hate child molesters....hmmm...

Is there any respect for the native religion/culture/belief? Can there be respect for another belief when a person is being told what they believe is incorrect?
God doesn't ask us to respect BELIEFS, He asks us to respect and love the person. The Kuru people used to eat the brains of their loved ones because they believed that it would help them keep their memories. The men would eat the flesh of their enemies to get their strength or courage. They developed prions disease and developed severe neurological damage because of that belief. Should people "respect" their native religion/culture/belief or should they be given the Truth about how the practice of canibalism causes health problems?

well the Truth is sin and false religious beliefs causes spiritual illness and hearts without the guidance of the Holy Spirit.It causes death versus eternal life. It causes fear, pride, selfishness, anger, hatred, ignorance in the place of love, hope, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, wisdom, godliness and self control.

I am thankful for any input, thank you.
welcome.
 
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everystrangerisafriend

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I'd love to chat, rather than just post in a forum, but here it goes.

I'm a student writing about christianity and they way it effects cultures...ie native cultures effect by missionary work.

Is it really right to believe that there is only one religion?
What makes christianity the right religion?
In the case of Scott Lively and Uganda...is that supported? The spreading of hate against another group (gay men and woman)?
Is there any respect for the native religion/culture/belief? Can there be respect for another belief when a person is being told what they believe is incorrect?

I am thankful for any input, thank you.
YOU GOTTA SEPARATE CHRISTIANITY FROM RELIGION...
That's why Jesus dies for us, so we can say "It is done" , rather than saying "We should so this and that".
Christianity and religion are two different things... very different things...

I guess, it's not respect for others belief system, but respect for the person itself. I believe every person needs to be respected and that we all have our dignity, and besides we are all given free will... I am against spreading hate, as they say "Condemn the sin, not the sinner."

it all ends up to a personal choice, I think
 
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Reneew I am in Africa and I know what is going on here, and if I start telling you about Sangoma's and Evangelists and the spiritual warfare that goes on here, Earlmayknowornot and the others would ALSO not believe what goes on here,,..

My sufggestion to you is, COME AND LIVE with a friend of mine in Venda-land, or come to remote tribes with us... You can SEE and experience God and Satan at war.... Truth vs. lies and evil.

While building a church in Venda with a froup of Christian young people, the local Sangoma did not appriciate the people turnng to Jesus... What that old lady could do with her "magic and medicine" was something most people on CC would not believe. The fear of the people under her spell however is VERY evident in their manner.

The truck driver's witness was my greatest reward on that mission. The truck-driver was a VENDA man himself, and the miricles of how God saved his life in th war-stricken in fightings were the proof of how God still WORK through HIS HOLY MEN. The way God defeats the Sangoma's and the forefather spirits, is just amazing.

How God can make a rival croud calm in seconds... if you did not see it, it is almost UNBELIEVABLE... Like miricles I suppose... Just how many times did the Scribes ask the blind man of 34 who and how his eyes were healed? Same here, I asked myself so many times, how God can make a large crowd calm in just a few words... How can God stop a war, and have a church built.How can God let innocent young people bring peace to a troubled nation... God is still as powerful today as He was when He resurrected Jesus...
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I'd love to chat, rather than just post in a forum, but here it goes.

I'm a student writing about christianity and they way it effects cultures...ie native cultures effect by missionary work.

Is it really right to believe that there is only one religion?

All do, including atheists. (yes, that is a religion). The only ones not to claim this are the agnostics.

What makes christianity the right religion?

Forget religion. Jesus is the only way to God. No matter how "good" or "bad" we are.

In the case of Scott Lively and Uganda...is that supported? The spreading of hate against another group (gay men and woman)?

I don't know them. I don't have the right to judge anyone. The bible says the gay lifestyle is sin.
It also says that saying "fool" to "your brother" is a sin. Who hasn't done that?

Is there any respect for the native religion/culture/belief?

yes

Can there be respect for another belief when a person is being told what they believe is incorrect?

see question one.

I am thankful for any input, thank you.

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MaggieMye

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Is it really right to believe that there is only one religion? Yes. Because all other religions come AFTER the world was created by the Creator. The Creator created All, both good and evil for His purposes and, bottom line, so that we would have a Choice....Him or any other god. The consequences of choosing are ours alone. Chose Him, eternity with Him, the God who is Love. Choose otherwise, the consequences are eternity without Him; no love, no comfort, no light, no peace, no anything that has anything to do with Him.
What makes christianity the right religion? See above
In the case of Scott Lively and Uganda...is that supported? The spreading of hate against another group (gay men and woman)? I'm not familiar with the case, but I will say this: SCIRPTURE does not support the torment of any group of people or any individual. We are called to LOVE as Christ loved and that does not involve judgment, punishment, or any other negative act...or thought...against someone living in sinful ways. Love the sinner, hate the sin and the trap they are caught in.
Is there any respect for the native religion/culture/belief? Can there be respect for another belief when a person is being told what they believe is incorrect? With the help of Holy Spirit, one CAN respect the person while teaching the error of their beliefs. It ain't easy and not everyone should attempt to do so. Rather, best to pray and intercede for that person so that Holy Spirit will render a change in their hearts and grant them ears to hear and eyes to see.
 
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kenisyes

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There are many religions, but only one God. One source, many responses. Some are better than others. Of them all, Jesus will get you to God fastest and best. In fact many of them won't get you to God at all, and their best efforts will only get you far enough to realize you need Jesus. But Jesus offers a lot to all people, and the people in Africa may have a completely different way of relating to Him than those in America. And Catholics might have a different way than Lutherans or Pentecostals or.......(add your personal favorite denomination here).

My wife used to be fond of asking the question, "if the missionary knows he must bow to the pagan idol in order to be admitted to the village, but cannot address the pagan tribe about Jesus until he is admitted, should he do it?" There really is no yes or no answer, is there?

The trick the missionary faces is knowing what is Jesus and what is not. If we all followed Jesus closer, then our missionaries would know what to do with native culture in each case. As it is, we do not, and arguments are still going on here at CC over such things as the proper date of Christmas, for example, with some arguing the whole celebration is pagan, and this is totally a western culture issue.

I wish I could articulate a rule that would work for all people, but I can't. God is love, so we must always be loving. But not everyone can agree on what loving is in every situation. Consider parents who have a 30 year old son on drugs, at home and living off the parents. Do they love him by letting him live there, or love him more by throwing him out? We cannot even decide these things in the culture of our own family, let alone in a world of 7 billion people. That's the context you must interpret your question about gays and about cultural adaptation in. What is hatred to one may not be to another.
 
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kenisyes

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How God can make a rival croud calm in seconds... if you did not see it, it is almost UNBELIEVABLE... Like miricles I suppose...
I have heard such stories for many years, and greater miracles than this, coming out of Africa. The power of God is indeed unbelievable. For some missionaries, it is almost a daily occurrence.
 
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bomba

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Hi ReneeW!

Its' funny that you asked such a question, because I was talking having a conversation with some of my family members on this topic today. I can't believe how many new religions, have multiplied over the years, and it makes it hard when, every diff. religion reads from the same bible, and the same verses. Yet it's like they want to decipher the scriptures to make their own, rules or laws, howerver you want to put it to make their church look more perfect then any of the others. I love God with all my heart, and being. Even so I do not go to church as much as I should. Only because of what your question is, is there only one religion? I believe in my heart that it's not religion that matters to God, it's what's in our hearts that matters to him how we love, believe, and put our trust, and faith into him. Even though I don't go to church often my I make it a point to give God thanks for giving me another day, I even find myself giving him thanks quite often throughout the day. I have my prayer closet, which we should all have, and the funny thing is that my prayer closet is in my shower. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's when I pray to him, as well as talk to him, and I love to read before I go to sleep, but I have to pray before I'll pick up my book and lay down to read. Not just because it's said you should pray before you go to sleep, but because that's what's in my heart I love God, and I love to talk, and pray to him. This may or may not have helped give you some insite on your question, but it made my heart feel good to share this with you. God! Bless! You! Take care!
 

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With regards to missionaries changing cultures, it is not the missionaries that change people, but a relationship with Jesus Christ.

He is above culture, race, religion, and to know him is to be transformed. My daily prayer is that people who do not know Christ, whether in North America or any other continent, come to Christ as Lord and Saviour.

The days are long over when to become a Christian was to become a "white, anglo-saxon protestant". There is a great sensitivity in mission work about culture, and when western culture becomes the goal, rather than Christ, that is wrong.

I would also mention that Korea is currently the biggest sender of missionaries, and many of those come to a lost North America. Revival is also happening in China in uncountable numbers, a result of some dedicated missionaries who were forced out after the Boxer Rebellion.

Ultimately, God is in control. You can be as sociological as you want, but unless you understand who Jesus is, you miss the entire point of missionary work.

I have a few great books on Missiology at home, but I am on vacation right now, so I cannot give you the names. I think they would shatter a lot of misconceptions still taught in secular universities about the negative impact of Christianity on indigenous and native cultures today.

While people have definitely made mistakes in sharing the gospel in the past, there are many educated and intelligent Christians who have formulated culturally sensitive ways to share that Christ died for our sins and rose again to demonstrate the amazing power of God.
 
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Reneew I am in Africa and I know what is going on here, and if I start telling you about Sangoma's and Evangelists and the spiritual warfare that goes on here, Earlmayknowornot and the others would ALSO not believe what goes on here,,..

My sufggestion to you is, COME AND LIVE with a friend of mine in Venda-land, or come to remote tribes with us... You can SEE and experience God and Satan at war.... Truth vs. lies and evil.

While building a church in Venda with a froup of Christian young people, the local Sangoma did not appriciate the people turnng to Jesus... What that old lady could do with her "magic and medicine" was something most people on CC would not believe. The fear of the people under her spell however is VERY evident in their manner.

The truck driver's witness was my greatest reward on that mission. The truck-driver was a VENDA man himself, and the miricles of how God saved his life in th war-stricken in fightings were the proof of how God still WORK through HIS HOLY MEN. The way God defeats the Sangoma's and the forefather spirits, is just amazing.

How God can make a rival croud calm in seconds... if you did not see it, it is almost UNBELIEVABLE... Like miricles I suppose... Just how many times did the Scribes ask the blind man of 34 who and how his eyes were healed? Same here, I asked myself so many times, how God can make a large crowd calm in just a few words... How can God stop a war, and have a church built.How can God let innocent young people bring peace to a troubled nation... God is still as powerful today as He was when He resurrected Jesus...

Cobus, I have been to Egypt on three occasions, not as a missionary, but for business and the Evil I felt there was very strong. My second trip, a man walked into bus maintenance building that I was in and started yelling at me. Of course, I couldn't understand him, Before I realised what I was saying. I said, in the name of Jesus stop this and mans face changed and a knife fell from his hand. The people around me grabbed him and took him out.

They told me has a radical and amazing that he did not attack me. I praise God.

Just so you know I'm telling the truth. Rice wrapped in grape leaves are delicious. So is that flat bread with an eggplant dip, I forget what they call it and the spicy taco looking thing.
 
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oOfallen_angelOo

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1.)Is it really right to believe that there is only one religion?

Yes, because religion makes a bold claim.

This is why Religion has been disputed and caused wars and issues between peoples, because they make a bold claim that you either believe this is true, because if you don't, you will burn in hell, not reach nirvana - pretty much be punished or condemned in some way shape or form.

If you do not believe in the Christian God, then your soul is at risk of destruction; this is what separates religion from the realm of subjectivity and personal interpretation / philosophy - because religion, especially Christianity, is built off an objective / absolute foundation of truth.

It is not a matter of opinion that God exist; it is a fact of reality that God exist, and thus since God exist, then the penalty for not believing exist.

Missionaries who carry out this message, do so with consideration of another's life, because they believe that God exist and doth not want others to suffer the penalty of destruction for non - belief.

Now, it is a matter of who is really right, and if anyone is even right - which I'll answer in the next question.


2.)What makes christianity the right religion?

For starters, no one knows if it is the wrong religion. Heck, no one knows if any religion is wrong, and we won't know until one is fully proven right. Everybody has their own argument as to why the Christian God is true - but what matters are the hard core facts which cannot be disputed, as absolute truth cannot be disputed if it is true.

Like, I can say that humans don't have hearts that pump blood in our bodies, because I believe that we have water pumps inside our bodies instead that do it. But am I correct even though this is what I believe? Of course not. I'm false.

There's a common conception amongst Christians that we all can believe freely and all be right; but that is a bad representation of both logic and what defines truth.

So then, how do Christians know our God is the true God/ Religion?

Our God left proof, and God showed himself throughout key points in the 6,000 documented histories of the world.

Understanding the Bible

The Bible is the core foundation of Christian faith, as it is believed to be the true words of God. But how can we confirm that it really is?

Through Biblical Prophecy.

What is prophecy? It is the fortelling of world events several years before those events take place - as only God would know the future in such explicit detail. The common mistake is that people believe the Bible only documents Old Testament history such as Jerusalem, and that older time history. Actually, the Bible documents those times, but also speaks about modern events such as WW2, the holocaust, the Fall of Jerusalem in 70AD, the Council of Nicea, the rise and fall of Various Kingdoms and nations that we read about in textbooks these days during World History class.

A nice example is in the book of Daniel, in which Daniel has a vision of a shaggy male goat, who is revealed to be the First King of the Greek Empire. Daniel states that this king's empire would divide into four after his death.

In real world history - Alexander the Great was the first king of the Greek Empire, and when he died, his kingdom split exactly into four kingdoms.

Alexander the Great was born hundreds of years after Daniel received this vision in 605 BC; how is it that Daniel knew in such detail what was to come? God revealed it to him.

The Bible does this from the very first verse of the Bible - as the Creation period of Genesis Chapter 1, describes in incredible detail how mankind came to be on the earth, the major spiritual events that took place such as the Reformation, the reapperance of Christ in the last days, and finally the Eternal rest soon after.

The Bible talks in parables, which are metaphors. As we know, a metaphor calls something another thing to perpetuate the meaning of the metaphor; that is, if I say:

" A ribbon twisted between the mountains."

Do I really mean that a huge physical ribbon is twisting through the mountains? No. I'm describing a river.

Likewise,

The Bible parables with people being compared to animals ( beasts,) the devil as a dragon, the great prostitute in revelations who is actually the big false church of our time.

This is why the Bible is so difficult to understand because of all it's parable language. However, the Bible decodes itself if you pay attention to what real object is being portrayed metaphorically.

Lastly,

Parables are also secrets to the kingdom of heaven ( Matthew 13:10 - 11); meaning, once they are understood, they will reveal some epicness. Only God can reveal these, so one would have to wait for Christ to appear to explain the Bible, meaning that up until that point, no one knows the truth of the Bible.


3.)In the case of Scott Lively and Uganda...is that supported? The spreading of hate against another group (gay men and woman)?

NO.

This is an abuse actually. The Bible does speak about homosexuality, and there is this idea of the Bible being against women, which is strange because God is revealed to be a woman in the Bible itself - but in either case, enforcing one's belief on another is not the way the gospel is supposed to be perpetuated.

It is a mixture of misconception of Biblical teachings, and spiritually arrogant enforcement on behalf of the missionaries. You cannot make someone accept God; and even God does not want forced acceptance because it isn't authentic.

The only function of a missionary or gospel worker, is to deliver the CORRECT message of God, and that is it. They are just a messenger, not the law.

4.)Is there any respect for the native religion/culture/belief? Can there be respect for another belief when a person is being told what they believe is incorrect?


There's respect, but up until a point, and that point is when someone is being proven incorrect.

It's not disrespectful to debate and determine the truth from what is false; matter of factly, this is basic human logic, and necessary for developing concrete understanding.

If the Spiritual world does really exist; and there is a ruler of the world whom Christians believe is God, then eventually, the truth will have to be revealed or else it does not exist.

If Christians claim the absolute truth of God, and the absolute truth is actually and fully revealed; then we come to a situation in which a religion has been confirmed as absolute truth - meaning that the Christian God is the only god, and Christianity is the only accurate religion -

It is because when something is true, it automatically means any other alternatives are false. The problem is that everyone is trying to figure out whom is really correct.

We won't know until the true God reveals so, and honestly, it is the Christian God because he was the only divinity to show himself and well herself too.

(If you want to know a little more about Bible prophecy, feel free to message me. It's very incredible stuff that a lot of Christians aren't even aware about.)

Hope these answers helped! :D
 
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but brother this salvation is taught by paul not jesus. can you tell me what jesus replied when he was asked about salvation
 
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Peace be with you, in order to see, know and understand the Kingdom of GOD one must be born from above, not only of water but also of SPIRIT. Then one can understand by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT who teaches HIS inspired Holy Scriptures to distinguish between the spirit of error and the spirit of truth. in the church and this world to keep away from.
The one who teaches to hate others is wrong but rather hate sin in oneself that remain and continues. "We do not wrestle against flesh and blood but........................' 'Who are we to judge outsiders when GOD is their judge, rather we judge our own church members who are continuing in lawlessness.'
So far do you understand these sharing to be true?
 
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Profond!
Reading it reminded me the story of a man who had to "prove" his religion was the right one... There were dozens of priest, same way today, and he let them "prove" their god was real to receive and approve their sacrifice... This man (whose name I have near my tongue) had his offering, his bull or cow (?) and the God we´ve believe came and burnt the flesh and the stones just after they were wet enough... It is proven! More than twice, that humanity needs tests and tests to show what the TRUTH IS. And I´m glad the Bible, even Jesus´ words serve to PROVE some disbelieve. He said: "If you don´t believe Moses´, you won´t believe a man who comes back from hell"...
 
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<ponders when she will be back to check on the posts, its been a couple days>
 
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Peace be with you, who have responded in faith to the Word that encourages, be blessed even more as the HOLY SPIRIT encourage you to read 1 Corinthians 11; 1-16. Correct me if i am wrong, are you growing a long hair? Yes, JESUS loves you and encourages you to excel in grace and truth (the Holy Bible first than 'others' sharing can be distinguished whether true or false testimonies).
GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you, who is forever and ever Omni Present, Omni Potent and Omni Seeient also forever and ever HE reigns, Amen.
 
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