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When you die.. is it because that is when God chose for you to die, and everything goes according to his plan.. or you just happened to die at that time and God just let it happen and didn't stop it.
For that matter, do we have a purpose we have to fulfill? And based on the above answer, if so, do we only die after that purpose is fulfilled or are we just here cause we are and should make the best of it and do good things for others. (I'm not talking about accepting Christ, I know you have to do that)

Thanks in advance for your opinions. Bible verses also would be helpful. :)
 
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Hethr said:
When you die.. is it because that is when God chose for you to die, and everything goes according to his plan.. or you just happened to die at that time and God just let it happen and didn't stop it.
For that matter, do we have a purpose we have to fulfill? And based on the above answer, if so, do we only die after that purpose is fulfilled or are we just here cause we are and should make the best of it and do good things for others. (I'm not talking about accepting Christ, I know you have to do that)

Thanks in advance for your opinions. Bible verses also would be helpful. :)
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Yes, all believers have a purpose to fulfill. Although we can see the power of God's love by sending His own Son to die for our sins (John 3:16), God did not intend for us to stay as saved sinners.

First of all, God saved us because He intends for us to do good works. Otherwise, God would have never prepared good works for us to do before we were even saved.

Ephesians 2:10 "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them."

Secondly, God intends for us to share the gospel.

Matthew 28:18-20 "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always even to the end of the age."

Lastly, our faith in Jesus should naturally produce good works. I am not saying that good works are necessary for salvation. I am saying that a saved person should naturally produce good works, just as a married man naturally produces good works towards his wife.

James 2:18-20 "18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” wShow me your faith without 6your works, xand I will show you my faith by 7my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is 8dead?" w Col. 1:6; 1 Thess. 1:3; Heb. 6:10

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Anthony's answer was very good. Jesus also said that "every hair on our head is numbered", so, he is Lord over our lives and death. Everybody is given the mission of reconcilliation. As a mother of four and now a grandmother of 11, my commission is done to my family, especially my grandchildren now except for the articles that I write at times that are in the newspaper that can reach many at once. The spirit of the world at these times is to try to make women feel bad for choosing to be home keepers and wives and mothers and stay at home. Today, with the economy, it is a true blessing to be able to do that. I was blessed in a mighty way that I was able to stay at home. I never felt less for not chasing after a career. My other daughter has to work, both parents work, and I am here to take care of the grandkids when they are sick and God keeps me from catching what they got so I am now a family caregiver. Knowing and having faith that God was in control of my life also spared me axiety and fear when I was diagnosed with cancer. I told the doctors either way I would win because if I am healed, I win, and, if I die, I also win because I go home to be with God.
 
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Hethr said:
When you die.. is it because that is when God chose for you to die, and everything goes according to his plan.. or you just happened to die at that time and God just let it happen and didn't stop it.
For that matter, do we have a purpose we have to fulfill? And based on the above answer, if so, do we only die after that purpose is fulfilled or are we just here cause we are and should make the best of it and do good things for others. (I'm not talking about accepting Christ, I know you have to do that)

Thanks in advance for your opinions. Bible verses also would be helpful. :)
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God did not predestine every little aspect of our lives, although He does know the end from the beginning. When we die God alows it, I do not think it was necessarily predetermined. As to your next question God does give us a purpose, but it is up to us to find, and fulfill that purpose, many die without ever doing so.
 
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I agree with watchmen on this one. He is everywhere, and knows everything and CAN do anything, but that doesn't have to mean that he lanned for he to get drenched spilling water from the sink today (though he probably has enough sense of humor to do stuff like that ). He KNOWS everything, and He can change it if we pray, and He has PLANS for us. - Plans can change :) ...and it's up to us whether or not we want to follow them (otherwise, we wouldn' be free). Right?
 
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Thats a good question. My personal belief is that, Were human, We have human bodies. So when we die, its because our earthly bodies have failed. Alot of my family members have died of lung cancer, they were smokers, had been smokers for years and years. This is naturally a consequence to smoking, getting lung cancer, and that most of the time is fatal. If we do stupid things like smoke or do drugs, were just askin to die early.
 
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We are given a promise from God that man shall have 70-80 years to live (Ps 90:10. anything short of that is at the hand of the enemy. The enemy cannot take us out unless we have given him legal right to do so...through a continued generational curse, unrepented sin, or by the foolish challenging of demonic powers that we do not have authority over...principalities and world powers, specifically.
Every person has a purpose, the main one beign to fulfill the first two commandments of the 10. In doing those, we then come into relationshp with the Father that allows Him to commission us to do works for the Kingdom.
One of Gods commandments is to 'go forth and multiply. It would do the Kingdom no good if we reproduce, both physically and spiritually and then kick the perverbial bucket and not be around to teach, train and mentor those that are new and iimmature in the things of the Lord. One of our purposes is ALWAYS to mentor those younger (in the Lord) so that they can then mentor and teach others.
If we are obedient and reach that 70 or 80 year mark, anything after that is simple grace..God giving us what we do not deserve.
Maggie
 
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Leilaii425

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what... when did god promise us 70 to 80 years to live... ive never heard of that. Is this true???
 
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Leilaii425

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MaggieMye said:
We are given a promise from God that man shall have 70-80 years to live (Ps 90:10. anything short of that is at the hand of the enemy. The enemy cannot take us out unless we have given him legal right to do so...through a continued generational curse, unrepented sin, or by the foolish challenging of demonic powers that we do not have authority over...principalities and world powers, specifically.
Every person has a purpose, the main one beign to fulfill the first two commandments of the 10. In doing those, we then come into relationshp with the Father that allows Him to commission us to do works for the Kingdom.
One of Gods commandments is to 'go forth and multiply. It would do the Kingdom no good if we reproduce, both physically and spiritually and then kick the perverbial bucket and not be around to teach, train and mentor those that are new and iimmature in the things of the Lord. One of our purposes is ALWAYS to mentor those younger (in the Lord) so that they can then mentor and teach others.
If we are obedient and reach that 70 or 80 year mark, anything after that is simple grace..God giving us what we do not deserve.
Maggie
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Mahogany... explain this????
 
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Leilaii425

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It cant possibly be true..
 
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Oh I will say something though , re:

"If we are obedient and reach that 70 or 80 year mark, anything after that is simple grace..God giving us what we do not deserve."

Well, some people don't want to live old, they wouldn't say that living too far past 90 years is a good thing. God may extend a person's life only for that person to be a vegetable in a nursing home, I wouldn't call that "simple grace", more like punishment. God could extend a life and also confine that person to sucking their meals through a straw for 5 to 10 years.
 
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Leilaii425

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Thank you.. that kinda clears it up for me. i wasnt thinking of that
 
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I am often asked why God kills people.
It's always a blessing to people when I share God's Word with
them and teach them Hebrews 2:14....it is the Devil who kills,
NOT the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The True God is a God of Love, Grace and Mercy.

God loves to protect His children, but he will not overstep our freedom of will.
Any time we are out of fellowship with Him, we are on dangerous ground.
God's Mercy and Grace cover a multitude of sins......and all of us need a lot of covering.

I will be gone for about ten days so I bid you all "God Bless"

Markhelp
 
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MaggieMye

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YOU GUYS!! I Gave the scripture reference! L:eek:ok it up for yourselves!!

Ps 90:10
Maggie
 
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i believe that death is written according to GOD. It means that when it's our time that's where we can say we've done enough
 
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We die because of the sin of Adam. The curse that was put on people from him. People used to live to be 900 years 600 years. The devil was always learning how to shorten people's lives. A Pastor was just saying there was a woman who had a bad heart and was going to die if she didn't get a new heart. At the same time there was a young man who loved God and he got some desiese and was dying. The Pastor prayed for these people. The lady got a new heart healed by God and was fine. The young man died. The Pastor was very upset. He was happy the lady was healed and thanked God. But he was very upset about the young man. He kept telling God why. Why did you heal her and not the young man. The Lord told the Pastor very sternly, you know nothing of this boys future. I know everything about him. I know everything that was to happen to him. I took him because I wanted to.....We can think of all kinds of things that may have been in the young mans future. Maybe horrible things that he would have turned from loving God. We don't know. Only God knows.
 
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MaggieMye

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sometimes its alot more than just scripture maggie.

Meaning?
 
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Leilaii425

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meaning, sometimes its hard to understand scripture... thats all
 
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