the Antichrist is alive today

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May 15, 2013
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Why wait. Is it not happening now? I see many Antichrists.
The strange weather that we are having is alerting us of his coming.

Here's something to think about, it was written over five hundred years ago.

For storms will rage and oceans roar, When Gabriel stands on sea and shore, and as he blows his wondrous horn Old worlds die and new be born.
Prophesy 2012: Mother Shipton's Prophecies and The End of Time




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Here's another info.

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homwardbound

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Look at the world. Why pray for a place in which its soldiers are internet warriors in a land of abundance, all the while millions are homeless and starving? Money and NOT resources being the ONLY reason this is so.

The message I bring IS the sound of the war of God. Please listen.
Iam very close to homeless myself and I have meat that you apparently do not know of and are at fight for a perishing world, yet this does not mean to help those in need if you have the resources for that yes Hallaluah for that. Now I do not know how all my needs will be supplied while I am here on earth and I am not about to take advantage either and just sit and do notihng.
therefore in not kknowiing how I sahll pound the pavement and do waht ever I can do while I am disabled, knowing that god will provide all my needs even if I have to have that same Spiritual rock that was there in that day of the provocation. God is my supplier and my rock
This is what I believe all are to learn before the great tribulation is here, stand fast in God, no matter what because when the AntiChrist has arrived and is in power and if you and I or anyone is here then I tell you the truth any ties you have to this world over Christ, you shall not be his. Just as th erich man walked away very sad becasue the riches of this world were outweighed belief in Christ that can and does supply every real need proven in the ones fed with basketfulls left over and fits your descriptiopn of no money here, but is unfortuantely twisted because we are not of this world the ones that beleive and can and will give everything you for the cause of Christ. Pleas as I have said before be careful as to whose kingdom you might represent for god's is not of this world.
 

homwardbound

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All talk and NO scripture makes very dull reading, but that seems to be the way of it in the Christian faith these days.


Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

What? does he sound like a friend of Jesus to you? or does he sound like an antichrist
that he might even fool the very elect. So let us each ask God to make us wise as serpents thus being aware and harmlees as doves trusting Father in all things as Christ did by the same Holy Ghost that was in him hesent to all that beleive and we shall know all truth and this truth shall make us waht? Free and wise as serpents yes I think so
 

homwardbound

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Not at all. Again to the children of the flesh, the message of Christ is torment. To those being saved, peace. Those having peace are those that are DEAD in Christ.
So you not learnt to have peace by your new born again Spirit while your flesh is suffering
[h=3]John 16:33[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

what does the above scripture say to you?
 

homwardbound

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Why wait. Is it not happening now? I see many Antichrists.
Yes they do and they mask themselves so well that the very elect might be fooled, and those still of the flesh that have not chosen to die to their caranl nature are the ones decieved yet today and have not come to the newness of life in the Spirit of God by the resurrection of Christ at the cross, but many are working at it aand will come to see this truth and is for all those that desperately want to serve the living God. It took me many years to see this amazing truth in God's spirit, and I quit from my works as he did from hid since the foundation of the earth and have entered into God's rest by belief that God ahs done it all. So as in Hebrews 3 and 4 explains I enetered my Fathers rest by the resurrection of his Son Jesus christ. I see you are on your way for God to show you and have a great zeal
Halleluah
 
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Iam very close to homeless myself and I have meat that you apparently do not know of and are at fight for a perishing world, yet this does not mean to help those in need if you have the resources for that yes Hallaluah for that. Now I do not know how all my needs will be supplied while I am here on earth and I am not about to take advantage either and just sit and do notihng.
therefore in not kknowiing how I sahll pound the pavement and do waht ever I can do while I am disabled, knowing that god will provide all my needs even if I have to have that same Spiritual rock that was there in that day of the provocation. God is my supplier and my rock
This is what I believe all are to learn before the great tribulation is here, stand fast in God, no matter what because when the AntiChrist has arrived and is in power and if you and I or anyone is here then I tell you the truth any ties you have to this world over Christ, you shall not be his. Just as th erich man walked away very sad becasue the riches of this world were outweighed belief in Christ that can and does supply every real need proven in the ones fed with basketfulls left over and fits your descriptiopn of no money here, but is unfortuantely twisted because we are not of this world the ones that beleive and can and will give everything you for the cause of Christ. Pleas as I have said before be careful as to whose kingdom you might represent for god's is not of this world.
It is the system of things that are perishing. Evil, sickness, death. Paul states a "world without end." What I speak about is not of this system or world. It is based in something more powerful. Greater is He that is I me than he that is in the world.
 
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So you not learnt to have peace by your new born again Spirit while your flesh is suffering
John 16:33

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

what does the above scripture say to you?
I am also dead in Christ and have peace. My happiness is not found in the rent, the light gas or phone bills.
 
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It is amazing that as bad as it is now, there are those that are still awaiting it to get worse.



The antichrist is ANYONE who is AGAINST the unification of ALL mankind.
Spoken like a true Universalist! :rolleyes:
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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That’s like me saying to you post scripture that actually -says- the man of lawlessness is not 'the antichrist'

I already did show he was antichrist

But you seem to be straining at a gnat

Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
the biblical writers chose their terms carefully...and they did that for a reason...

when terms have been so carefully and deliberately chosen...equivocation of terms is a mistake...

'man of lawlessness' and 'antichrist' are not the same thing...or else it would actually -say- they are the same thing...just the fact that they are both 'bad guys' is not enough to establish equivalence...
 
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peterT

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the biblical writers chose their terms carefully...and they did that for a reason...

when terms have been so carefully and deliberately chosen...equivocation of terms is a mistake...

'man of lawlessness' and 'antichrist' are not the same thing...or else it would actually -say- they are the same thing...just the fact that they are both 'bad guys' is not enough to establish equivalence...
Interesting ditty

But all talk and no scripture makes dull reading

The man of sin is antichrist his he not ?

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Jesus had other names

Immanuel,
The Good Shepherd,
The word.
Prince of peace
Christ
Lord
Son of God
Son of Man
Lamb of God
Light of the World
King of the Jews


And so does the man of sin

Man of sin,
The lawless one
Little horn
Vile person
Prince of this world
that antichrist shall come
The beast

You are over cooking it
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Interesting ditty

But all talk and no scripture makes dull reading

The man of sin is antichrist his he not ?

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Jesus had other names

Immanuel,
The Good Shepherd,
The word.
Prince of peace
Christ
Lord
Son of God
Son of Man
Lamb of God
Light of the World
King of the Jews


And so does the man of sin

Man of sin,
The lawless one
Little horn
Vile person
Prince of this world
that antichrist shall come
The beast

You are over cooking it
again your argument just boils down to...'they are both bad guys so they have to be the same thing'

well jezebel and haman were both against God...and they are clearly not the same thing...

if my view is 'overcooked' then yours is half baked :cool:
 
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Pure_Heart

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I pray that God will grant us the Grace to live a pure life until His return.
 
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peterT

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again your argument just boils down to...'they are both bad guys so they have to be the same thing'

well jezebel and haman were both against God...and they are clearly not the same thing...

if my view is 'overcooked' then yours is half baked :cool:
Yes but I have scripture and you have NOTHING
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Yes but I have scripture and you have NOTHING
you have scripture that doesn't actually -say- what you are claiming...your view does not come from the scriptures you are posting but from the flawed logic you apply to them...

i have the 31,102 verses that -don't- say the man of lawlessness is 'the antichrist'...
 
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peterT

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All talk and no scripture makes very dull reading

You have posted 7 times on this topic, and NO scripture

You said there is no one antichrist in the end, but I have shown you there is

Your not interested in the word, just your opinion as you posts show

7 times and NOTHING


you have scripture that doesn't actually -say- what you are claiming...your view does not come from the scriptures you are posting but from the flawed logic you apply to them...

i have the 31,102 verses that -don't- say the man of lawlessness is 'the antichrist'...

the bible says that there are -many- antichrists...and that some were alive in john's time...

the bible never says that there is -one- antichrist in the end time...


in biblical prophecy beasts represent empires or powers...there are examples of that in daniel...

the beast represents the imperial state in general...it combines the animals that represented the three previous world empires of babylon and persia and greece in daniel...

the false prophet is also called the second beast elsewhere in revelation...it represents an apostate church allied with the imperial state...looking like a lamb...like something christlike...but speaking like a dragon...preaching the doctrine of satan...and telling everyone to honor the imperial state...

there is a man of lawlessness but the bible never calls him 'the antichrist'...they are not just two names for the same thing...
well if you can post a scripture that actually -says- the man of lawlessness is 'the antichrist'...
the biblical writers chose their terms carefully...and they did that for a reason...

when terms have been so carefully and deliberately chosen...equivocation of terms is a mistake...

'man of lawlessness' and 'antichrist' are not the same thing...or else it would actually -say- they are the same thing...just the fact that they are both 'bad guys' is not enough to establish equivalence...
again your argument just boils down to...'they are both bad guys so they have to be the same thing'

well jezebel and haman were both against God...and they are clearly not the same thing...

if my view is 'overcooked' then yours is half baked
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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All talk and no scripture makes very dull reading

You have posted 7 times on this topic, and NO scripture

You said there is no one antichrist in the end, but I have shown you there is

Your not interested in the word, just your opinion as you posts show

7 times and NOTHING
nowhere in scripture does it say that there is one antichrist coming in the end time...you have yet to post a scripture that says there is...and posting a scripture about the man of lawlessness and assuming he is 'the antichrist' doesn't count...

the one place in scripture where john mentions the belief that there is one coming antichrist...he immediately refutes it and explains that there are -many- antichrists...he then goes on to define the term 'antichrist'...

since you want to see scripture...here are the only four scriptures that mention antichrists...

1 john 2:18..."Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour."

1 john 2:22..."Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son."

1 john 4:3..."but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."

2 john 7..."I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."

now show me a passage that says 'one antichrist will come in the last days and take over the world'...and again...passages about the man of lawlessness don't count unless you can prove from scripture that they are the same thing...and it will have to be based on more than just 'well they are both enemies of God so they must be the same'...
 
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silverdollar

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somebody told me Obama is the Antichrist.
i read this thread and i checked in my bible and used my apps, i didn't see an Antichrist person.
is he a devil of some kind?
is antichrist a spirit of some kind because the Gospel of John said many antichrists, like someone posted.
then it said we know who is an antichrist whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.
doesn't tht mean everybody who isn't a christian is an antichrist?

if there is one Antichrist, who is alive today who is ti? i looked on the internet but it said all kinds of people were the Antichrist, so who is it?
 
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peterT

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nowhere in scripture does it say that there is one antichrist coming in the end time...you have yet to post a scripture that says there is...and posting a scripture about the man of lawlessness and assuming he is 'the antichrist' doesn't count...

the one place in scripture where john mentions the belief that there is one coming antichrist...he immediately refutes it and explains that there are -many- antichrists...he then goes on to define the term 'antichrist'...

since you want to see scripture...here are the only four scriptures that mention antichrists...

1 john 2:18..."Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour."

1 john 2:22..."Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son."

1 john 4:3..."but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."

2 john 7..."I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."

now show me a passage that says 'one antichrist will come in the last days and take over the world'...and again...passages about the man of lawlessness don't count unless you can prove from scripture that they are the same thing...and it will have to be based on more than just 'well they are both enemies of God so they must be the same'...
O yes it does

The man of sin is antichrist with ALL power and with the working of Satan,
And Jesus will not be coming back until the man of sin is revealed
See: one particular antichrist in the last day.


Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders

What are you doing it too? Giving us 4 verses to choose from to find the antichrist? when there are over 31000 verses in the bible, who do you think you are? God the holy spirit or something?
the one place in scripture where john mentions the belief that there is one coming antichrist...he immediately refutes it and explains that there are -many- antichrists...he then goes on to define the term 'antichrist'...

since you want to see scripture...here are the only four scriptures that mention antichrists...

1 john 2:18..."Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour."

1 john 2:22..."Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son."

1 john 4:3..."but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."

2 john 7..."I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."

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Wrong: It’s not the only place in scripture that talks about an antichrist.

The man of sin is an antichrist, and the ten kings in Rv17 make war with the lamb that would make them antichrist as well.
You are chocking on a word, strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

the one place in scripture where john mentions the belief that there is one coming antichrist...he immediately refutes it and explains that there are -many- antichrists...he then goes on to define the term 'antichrist'...

since you want to see scripture...here are the only four scriptures that mention antichrists...


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