is Allah the same word with Elohim?

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geetha

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Jewish people said Elohim is the creator but in Indonesia we said Allah, i live in Indonesia (Christian) and I'm start to worry about this ....should we start said God "ELOHIM"?
 
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Allah is just the Arabic word for "God". It is not necessarily his name. It's like our English word for god is "God". You can use the same reference but if you are not comfortable, you can use any of the names for God found in the Bible along with Yahweh which is indeed his name. :)
 
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Hiya geetha :)
I do not know the answer to this one, but welcome to Christian Chat! :)
 
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I agree..allah is just abother word for god an i see no problem in using but there r many names for God in the bible some examples jehova jirrea an jehova shelom.. not sure if my spellings correct or not.
 
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geetha

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thankyou , nice to meet you
 
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geetha

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but I search in Orthodox Jewish Bible, there are no found the Yahweh, only Elohim,hmm ?
 

FIRE_of_ELIJAH

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allah is an arabic term for Elohim(hebrew)...God in English. My native language says it "Ginoo". Both are in the same meaning. There are multiple names and nature of God in the Bible . The name Elohim(or God) represents only His greatness...dominion...power...glory but there's no revelation in that name. Angels...fallen angels...demons Know Him by Elohim. When God created adam...His name became 'Jehova' or "The Lord God"...meaning He enters and makes covenant with man. In other words...He reveals Himself only to men and women...He is now entering a great relationship with someone whom He dearly loves. He reveals His great Love...His mercy....His forgiveness...power...glory and everything. You can imagine HOw precious we are as Human than the angels....for all the angels have no soul...they don't know the things about the LOve of God and about the salvation...But we men and women were created in the image of God. We got God's DNA or God's likeness.
You address Him as Jehovah or the Lord God Almighty for we are under now the eternal covenant with Him. You can call Him also Jesus.
 
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The word "God" takes in all that man has decided to make God. There have been times that people couldn't understand a God they couldn't see so they used a carving and called it God. That wasn't at all the one true God who created us, who had power in their life. People have done almost the same thing by making up a God and calling Him Allah. When they made Allah up they copied a lot of things from the real God. It is very important that you understand who the real God is, the God with the power, the one that Created you and runs the world and not get the real God mixed up with Gods people have made up like Allah.
 
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Jewish people said Elohim is the creator but in Indonesia we said Allah, i live in Indonesia (Christian) and I'm start to worry about this ....should we start said God "ELOHIM"?
Its a translational thing.

The 'Allah' in the Arabic Christian Bible, is translated from the original meaning and intent for the terms used for the true God.

The 'allah' of the Koran is NOT the Biblical God....and is NOT translational...and actually is semitically rooted in pagan Arab idol worship!

Moral of the story...Make sure that you have properly defined your terms...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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the arabic 'allah' is derived from the same semitic root as the hebrew 'eloah'...which is a biblical name for God...

but what a lot of people don't realize is that many middle eastern pagan cultures used 'el' and its variants as a name for the supreme deity in their polytheistic pantheon...and 'elohim' as a name for their whole pantheon...

it is this kind of usage that the arabic name 'allah' stood for from ancient times until the time of muhammad...as a name for one of numerous deities in a polytheistic pantheon...for example allah was worshiped alongside hubal and manaf in mecca before muhammad's time...

by muhammad's time allah had actually been reduced to the role of a minor deity...less important than hubal and manaf and others...in fact muhammad's own clan was devoted primarily to worship of manaf...

muhammad's new religion of islam dispensed with all of the other dieties...including hubal and manaf...taking the minor god allah...patron god of muhammad's father abdullah...and elevating him to the status of sole monotheistic deity... from that point on muhammad attempted to sever the worship of allah from its pagan history...claiming that allah was the same God that the jews and christians worshipped...

some time after the islamic conquest of much of the middle east the name 'allah' was adopted as the arabic name of God by arabic speaking christians and jews...the need to avoid offending the powerful muslim majority...who to this day continue muhammad's claim that muslims and christians and jews all worship the same God...very likely played a role in this development...

is it ok to refer to christianity's true God by a name of pagan origin that is used in the quran to speak of the muslim god who is decidedly not the same as the christian God? i guess that is going to be a matter of individual conscience...
 
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From what I understand the word Elohim is talking about a 'plural' not a singular God. Let 'us' make man in our own image. Of course Christians can retro-fit that to assume the Holy trinity. 3 in 1. Allah was the name of one of many arabic Gods, just like Yahweh was the name of one of many Ancient Hebrew Gods. These are just the names that won out to be the top God, then becomes the one and only God. The way that scripture develops is not so clear cut. They got amended and 'clarified' and some scripture deemed not central, and some deemed heretical. Remember, Moses and the Jews there came from Egypt which was polytheistic. The Ancient Egyptians had the idea of the source, being part of Gods. So Amun, can merge with Ra, to be Amun Ra.

My point is in Ancient Times, there was a lot of debate over the plurality and singularity of what is Divine/God.

So Elohim is a Plural word, and refers to the creators, not just one creator.

Source for more discussion:
Elohim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Jewish people said Elohim is the creator but in Indonesia we said Allah, i live in Indonesia (Christian) and I'm start to worry about this ....should we start said God "ELOHIM"?
Elohim, Eloi, Eli, El,God, Allah and whatever means supreme being or the Head of all. Some people uses the phrase the Head of the house, the lord of the house.
 
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enoch1nine

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It is the same "word", in Aramaic, the word Jesus said would sound like "Allahim" with the "A" as in "bat", not "bot"
I don't think God faults people for saying it either way or simply "God"
Maybe "the Lord" is something to think about. It's the same as "Baal" and most people think of Him as an unjust taskmaster.
KJV has good and bad points. I think replacing "Yaweh" with "the Lord" was probably the worst of the bad points.

The "idea" of "Allah" vs. "God" or "Elohim" is different though than the words used. The idea that Islam and Christianity have about who God actually is, is a "little" different. Most of both do inwardly and mistakenly call Him a "unjust Lord" instead of a "Savior" though.