Is the Lord's return at hand?

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lilacwoman

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Are you all familiar with the Verichip that is at present being pushed for the purpose (we are told) of being able to track children if they are taken, as well as having medical information available if someone is in an accident and has allergies to medications? This chip is scary in the sense that the technology is already here for tracking your every move, and will be implemented if the government has its way. The chip has already been used in animals so that the owner can find his or her pet if it is lost or stolen, and now some think that it would be good if all of us were chipped so that Big Brother can be aware of our every movement, and protect us from bad things that might happen. But, who is going to protect us from them? If you have read the book of Revelation, you know that a one world order is coming and that every person will have to have a mark to buy or sell anything. No one knows when this is going to take place, just that it is. But, I am here to tell you that this chip makes it all possible. And it is just a matter of time before everyone will have to have one under some guise that it is for our own good. Most Christians are not afraid because they believe they will be raptured out before that point in time comes. I hope they are right, but what Scriptures do we have that guarantee we will be? People in the past up to this present point in time have not escaped persecution or martyrdom for their faith and I don't see any promises in God's Word that any generation will. That is why Jesus said to count the cost if we wished to be his disciples. So let me ask all of you. Are you ready to face whatever might be required of you to resist the implementation of this world order and be true to the One who deserves your allegiance because he has bought and paid for your soul with His blood? I am determined that no one is going to put any chip in me, and I will resist it even if it means death to this old body of mine. What about you my fellow believers? Will you say no or yes to this instrument of control over the population? This generation of Christians will not be able to ignore this issue because it is already here. It is just a matter of how quickly the government can get people to agree to have it done. There are already commercials out there to convince our citizens to agree to it. So beware, and prepare! That's the best advice I can give you.
 
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1still_waters

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lilacwoman said:
Are you all familiar with the Verichip that is at present being pushed for the purpose (we are told) of being able to track children if they are taken, as well as having medical information available if someone is in an accident and has allergies to medications? This chip is scary in the sense that the technology is already here for tracking your every move, and will be implemented if the government has its way. The chip has already been used in animals so that the owner can find his or her pet if it is lost or stolen, and now some think that it would be good if all of us were chipped so that Big Brother can be aware of our every movement, and protect us from bad things that might happen. But, who is going to protect us from them? If you have read the book of Revelation, you know that a one world order is coming and that every person will have to have a mark to buy or sell anything. No one knows when this is going to take place, just that it is. But, I am here to tell you that this chip makes it all possible. And it is just a matter of time before everyone will have to have one under some guise that it is for our own good. Most Christians are not afraid because they believe they will be raptured out before that point in time comes. I hope they are right, but what Scriptures do we have that guarantee we will be? People in the past up to this present point in time have not escaped persecution or martyrdom for their faith and I don't see any promises in God's Word that any generation will. That is why Jesus said to count the cost if we wished to be his disciples. So let me ask all of you. Are you ready to face whatever might be required of you to resist the implementation of this world order and be true to the One who deserves your allegiance because he has bought and paid for your soul with His blood? I am determined that no one is going to put any chip in me, and I will resist it even if it means death to this old body of mine. What about you my fellow believers? Will you say no or yes to this instrument of control over the population? This generation of Christians will not be able to ignore this issue because it is already here. It is just a matter of how quickly the government can get people to agree to have it done. There are already commercials out there to convince our citizens to agree to it. So beware, and prepare! That's the best advice I can give you.
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No worries..

the device is typically implanted between the shoulder and elbow area of an individual’s right arm.
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Link --> VeriChip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rev 13:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,[SUP][e][/SUP] to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
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A literal interpretation requires the mark to be on the right hand or forehead.
Verichip is between shoulder and elbow.

Of course some aren't for a LITERAL interpretation, so a chip IN the body between shoulder and elbow is close enough to a MARK ON the right hand and forehead.
 
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Stilly, I've wondered about this as well. My uncle had shoulder surgery some time ago and he woke up with something in his arm that wasn't there before. He took a magnet over it JUST in case. He's not one of those paranoid folks but he swears up and down that it wasn't there before.
 
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1still_waters

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JesusChica1991 said:
Stilly, I've wondered about this as well. My uncle had shoulder surgery some time ago and he woke up with something in his arm that wasn't there before. He took a magnet over it JUST in case. He's not one of those paranoid folks but he swears up and down that it wasn't there before.
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But it was in his shoulder, so it can't be the mark of the beast.
 
JesusChica1991

JesusChica1991

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Actually, it was around his wrist area. It was creepy lol.
 
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lilacwoman

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Do you think the enemy of our souls is stupid? He knows people are not going to allow the mark if it starts in the forehead or hand, so what better way to fool people than to put it someplace else in the beginning. And when people question its purpose, those who want it placed there can say, "there is nothing to fear, because we are not putting it in your hand or forehead, only your arm." Even if this chip is not the actual mark, it is a precursor that if allowed will make the later mark in the forehead or hand acceptable to the populace, because they are already used to a device in their bodies whereby the government can obtain information about them. Those who do not resist this chip are making it easy for the one world order to be established which we know is going to happen because the Scriptures say it is. It's just a matter of when. Will you help the Devil to establish it by accepting the chip? It's the first step to acceptance of the government tracking our every move. But, there is nothing to fear because our government would never use technology against its own citizens, right? The book of Revelation says otherwise. So we must fight it as Christians even though we know in the end it is going to happen anyway. I look at this issue much like I do that of death. We can not keep death from happening, but we through our choices can somewhat control when and how it will happen to us if God has ordained we should have to face it. So I am only trying to warn Christians about the chip in the hope that they will prepare.
 
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My question to you is this:

How does an implanted chip violate Gods Law and cause Him to pour out His wrath?

Which Commandment does having a "chip" implanted violate?


All should examine Duteronomy 6:8 with that of Revelation 13:16 As I examine Dueteronomy Chapter 6,, there is no doubt that the subject content concerns the Law of God (Commandments).

We know Satan constantly tempts man to break any,and all of God's 10 Commandments. That is what Satan does!


So, with that in mind,,,why would anybody think that the Mark of the Beast doesn't have a direct association to God's 10 Commandments?

I tell you the Mark is with us. It just hasn't been enforced yet. The Mark of the Beast is closely associated with Gods Law. But it has nothing to do with an implanted chip. Just a Day.
 
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dashadow

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Answer to your question, He's already here. Isn't it great. :)
 
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enoch1nine

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I believe that this verse - "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

Means that mankind has become a graven image of God instead of made in God's image. Mankind is an image of a beast.

And this verse - "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

Means - that the "mark" is when a person identifies himself as serving God, but his idea of God is a beast by the real God's standards.
This mark is either in the front of his daily thoughts, or in the motivation behind is acts.

And this verse - "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Means that mankind has convinced himself that he must barter with his false God for his soul. By either worrying about it all the time, or by doing acts as if to "earn credit". But bartering for the soul is harlotry.

And this verse - "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Means that any kind of standard math calculation or lustful observation of doomsday won't tell us what 666 means. I believe it is self-centeredness and lust of the material. Just like Nebuchadnezzar, Solomon, Jacob's viewpoint of Laban's thinking, Genesis 31:41, etc.

"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing."
 
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john832

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This is not the mark of the Beast.
 
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Michael50

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enoch1nine said:
I believe that this verse - "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

Means that mankind has become a graven image of God instead of made in God's image. Mankind is an image of a beast.

And this verse - "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

Means - that the "mark" is when a person identifies himself as serving God, but his idea of God is a beast by the real God's standards.
This mark is either in the front of his daily thoughts, or in the motivation behind is acts.

And this verse - "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Means that mankind has convinced himself that he must barter with his false God for his soul. By either worrying about it all the time, or by doing acts as if to "earn credit". But bartering for the soul is harlotry.

And this verse - "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Means that any kind of standard math calculation or lustful observation of doomsday won't tell us what 666 means. I believe it is self-centeredness and lust of the material. Just like Nebuchadnezzar, Solomon, Jacob's viewpoint of Laban's thinking, Genesis 31:41, etc.

"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing."
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I believe the scripture you are referring to is Revelation 13:15-17.

my take is this: The United states will make an image to the beast by legislating religious practice. it will pass laws requiring worship and force people to either obey them or face death. This is a copy, or image of the church-state combination that the papacy utilized during the middle ages at the height of the papacys power when millions were killed for their faith.

The United States will combine civil government with apostate protestantism in a 'marriage' that will support the papacy. Then the USA will influence all the nations of the world to follow her example, and the papacy will have world-wide support.

The laws that the United States will make governing worship,,,will be like the same laws the church of Rome has. Sunday observance.
 
KohenMatt

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God returned to me 19 years ago when He who made me allowed me to see Him for who He is, and to believe in Him and to love Him. And He has been faithful to return to me everyday since then. (whether I wanted Him to or not;))

Any trial or bad thing that happens to me in the future is trivial and without power.

Any blessing or good thing that happens to me in the future is a bonus.
 
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Angel371

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if you knew the word of God the Spirit of truth has already come to guide us into all truth with the word of God
 
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