Is the Hebrew Roots Movement a cult?
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Boy, did you take that to the extreme! Do you think that being too satisfied where you are at to look deeply into another idea makes you lazy, idle, dim-wit and proud? I don"t. I looked into it. I was retired, and couldn't do my housework but could look into it. It had nothing at all to do with lazy, idle, dim-wit and proud. It took hundreds and hundreds of hours. It took many history books of ancient times and many commentaries, and hours of pouring over scripture.
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No Crossnote. I really don't believe RedTent thinks that. I know other Christians that truly love God believe differently, and believe it or not, I do respect that, and I'm sure RedTent does to. I think some of the heated disagreements in here wouldn't happen if we were all speaking face to face. We'd see the human in the other person and we'd respond to that more. As it is, we see only text. And a lot of times, what's posted doesn't truly express how we feel about things. Text can sound so blunt.
Allow me to rephrase myself, I did not generate the thought of playing dress up, I was quoting from another post. As for dressing up like people did at the time Yeshua walked His earth, this was not touched upon either.
My argument here is simple. If people believe Yeshua, Whom many call Jesus, and they do one thing or another to please Him, it is not good to criticize or ridicule them for having a personal style of worship, even if it seems hilarious to someone other.
We run the risk here of being "taught" by others with an agenda other than the gospel of Yeshua.
These are just my thoughts on what is easy to remove from the thinking of believers in every walk, be they people who believe they should follow old traditions, or be they people who believe they should all be abolished because they are not contemporary.
If you believe Yeshua, you know He came to you in a manner only you could or would understand. He does this with each person, for each soul.
He loves each one of us so much and just the same. I cannot be above you, but, you, likewise cannot be above another, even though the rewards differ come the Kingdom. While we are here, we do not reign. When the King returns, we may reign forever as princes, but only under Him in His glory, amen.
My argument here is simple. If people believe Yeshua, Whom many call Jesus, and they do one thing or another to please Him, it is not good to criticize or ridicule them for having a personal style of worship, even if it seems hilarious to someone other.
We run the risk here of being "taught" by others with an agenda other than the gospel of Yeshua.
These are just my thoughts on what is easy to remove from the thinking of believers in every walk, be they people who believe they should follow old traditions, or be they people who believe they should all be abolished because they are not contemporary.
If you believe Yeshua, you know He came to you in a manner only you could or would understand. He does this with each person, for each soul.
He loves each one of us so much and just the same. I cannot be above you, but, you, likewise cannot be above another, even though the rewards differ come the Kingdom. While we are here, we do not reign. When the King returns, we may reign forever as princes, but only under Him in His glory, amen.
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I absolutely agree JaimeJ. I don't understand why this is ridiculed so hard. If you don't agree, just leave it alone then. There's all sorts of denominations I don't agree with. I think it's amazing I'm called a Judizer, whatever that means, because I interpret scriptures to say I should keep the sabbath. That's really the only difference I have with conventional Christianity, other than I don't believe sinners burn in eternal torment for time without end. Again, I certainly absolutely believe I'm saved by grace. I believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If I'm trying to play dress-up in some way, it's sure news to me. lol. This gets just silly. So much name calling because people disagree with the way others believe. And frankly, the insulting shows they're somehow threatened by something about the belief. If not, why get so hostile and angry? If I'm a total nut, why even pay attention to my argument?
I'm sorry JaumeJ. I didn't mean to make this about me. I become a selfish little girl often, I fear. So carry on! You're doing great!
I'm sorry JaumeJ. I didn't mean to make this about me. I become a selfish little girl often, I fear. So carry on! You're doing great!
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So now pointing out the difference between calendars is a cheap shot?
People, especially the children of the Most High God, should be informed of the pagan names of the week.
You think that is a cheap shot, to inform others in order that they may be better equipped to speak on a given subject. Do you see me laughing? Did I ridicule by emphasizing that the name of the day comes from the Sun? W
hat kind of mind games are you putting on me and others here in the forum? This forum is for fellowship, not a platform for people who wish to inforce their own lack of understanding on those who have truly received the Holy Spirit.
I spoke of worship, but I was not saying the perversion of the Word. I am permitted to say this in all confidence, if people used the Hebrew calendar to this day, they would know much more about the Word of Yahweh, and the Gospel He brought to all of us in the person of His Only Begotten Son.
Now stop looking for young birds in old nests. It is unbecoming.
People, especially the children of the Most High God, should be informed of the pagan names of the week.
You think that is a cheap shot, to inform others in order that they may be better equipped to speak on a given subject. Do you see me laughing? Did I ridicule by emphasizing that the name of the day comes from the Sun? W
hat kind of mind games are you putting on me and others here in the forum? This forum is for fellowship, not a platform for people who wish to inforce their own lack of understanding on those who have truly received the Holy Spirit.
I spoke of worship, but I was not saying the perversion of the Word. I am permitted to say this in all confidence, if people used the Hebrew calendar to this day, they would know much more about the Word of Yahweh, and the Gospel He brought to all of us in the person of His Only Begotten Son.
Now stop looking for young birds in old nests. It is unbecoming.
Why the photos? The shofar is just as much of the Word as is the cross! After all when we say the last trump, we refer to a shofar.
Why are you so bitter about Jews? They are just like you and I, maybe even moreso! (That was humor.)
If someone believes he is pleasing his maker by going through a bunch of rituals there is nothing wrong with it, as long as it is not harmful. When people love Yeshua for the salvation He has given by His precious Blood, it does not matter how many traditions they have as long as they do not think of them as commandment from the Most High God, and especially as long as it is not attempting to offer a lesser sacrifice for sin than Yeshua, and I do not believe they do this. (Any sacrifice for sin other than Yeshua is an affront to the True Sacrifice, Yeshua.)
You have a named religion printed in every one of your posts, the Lutheran religion. I could say a lot about them, but why? If a given person in your assembly loves Yeshua for what He has done for him and mankind, that given person is my family in Yeshua.
I do not think I am Jewish except by translation as I believe all who love Jesus Christ as Savior are. It is just a description of the faith of the flocks. It is not a religion for me.
I am so happy to know you remember our early emails about my living on a kibbutz six months, but that had nothing to do with practicing my faith.
I stayed on the kibbutz for economic reasons, and I deliberatly selected a non practicing community so as not to possibly offend others who did not approve of my faith. They all loved me as I do them knowing I love Yeshua, even to the extent of begging me to stay on the kibbutz, a non Jew. Now that is love, I believe. I do not call a kibbutz a commune, but you may if you like, they are small towns more than anything else. But you may call them communes if it pleases you.
By the way, here is a minor miracle. As I mentioned, I stayed on a kibbutz for economic reasons. I traveled from New York and passed through close to twenty countries (now countries) go to and from Israel. I was out of the US for a year. The amount spent, including transportation, $980.00. Try to do that today.
Why are you so bitter about Jews? They are just like you and I, maybe even moreso! (That was humor.)
If someone believes he is pleasing his maker by going through a bunch of rituals there is nothing wrong with it, as long as it is not harmful. When people love Yeshua for the salvation He has given by His precious Blood, it does not matter how many traditions they have as long as they do not think of them as commandment from the Most High God, and especially as long as it is not attempting to offer a lesser sacrifice for sin than Yeshua, and I do not believe they do this. (Any sacrifice for sin other than Yeshua is an affront to the True Sacrifice, Yeshua.)
You have a named religion printed in every one of your posts, the Lutheran religion. I could say a lot about them, but why? If a given person in your assembly loves Yeshua for what He has done for him and mankind, that given person is my family in Yeshua.
I do not think I am Jewish except by translation as I believe all who love Jesus Christ as Savior are. It is just a description of the faith of the flocks. It is not a religion for me.
I am so happy to know you remember our early emails about my living on a kibbutz six months, but that had nothing to do with practicing my faith.
I stayed on the kibbutz for economic reasons, and I deliberatly selected a non practicing community so as not to possibly offend others who did not approve of my faith. They all loved me as I do them knowing I love Yeshua, even to the extent of begging me to stay on the kibbutz, a non Jew. Now that is love, I believe. I do not call a kibbutz a commune, but you may if you like, they are small towns more than anything else. But you may call them communes if it pleases you.
By the way, here is a minor miracle. As I mentioned, I stayed on a kibbutz for economic reasons. I traveled from New York and passed through close to twenty countries (now countries) go to and from Israel. I was out of the US for a year. The amount spent, including transportation, $980.00. Try to do that today.
IT'S OFFENSIVE TO JEWS
more like them in what way?
wearing robes and sandals?
being burned alive or crucified?
living on a commune in Israel isn't how the israelites lived 2000 years ago.
this is all so religiously PRETENTIOUS.
arg.
more like them in what way?
wearing robes and sandals?
being burned alive or crucified?
living on a commune in Israel isn't how the israelites lived 2000 years ago.
this is all so religiously PRETENTIOUS.
arg.
O Sarita, how you have misunderstood plain words. The Shofar will sound on the great and terrible day of the Lord. It is just as much a symbol of the Word as is the cross. Do you think anyone who adores Yeshua, as I know I do, would in anyway diminish what Yeshua did for me? For you? For all?
oooo, it can only be you misunderstood. Yahweh forbid you are trying to trip me up in words. You probably could, for I am not Yeshua, just a servant.
oooo, it can only be you misunderstood. Yahweh forbid you are trying to trip me up in words. You probably could, for I am not Yeshua, just a servant.