Jesus wants to save the Palestinians

[1still_waters]

Eph 2
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— [SUP]12 [/SUP]that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
Christ Our Peace

[SUP]14 [/SUP]For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, [SUP]15 [/SUP]having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, [SUP]16 [/SUP]and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Christ Our Cornerstone

[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, [SUP]20 [/SUP]having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, [SUP]21 [/SUP]in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, [SUP]22 [/SUP]in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit

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Just a reminder that Palestinians are also included with those made part of the one, due to the dividing wall Jesus took down.

Sometimes the heated news headlines distract us from remembering this.

 

[Graybeard]

agreed....but do the Palestinians want Him to?

 

[1still_waters]

agreed....but do the Palestinians want Him to?

They may have a better view of Jesus if some of his followers would quit funding people who kick them out of their houses in the name of "settlements".

 

[RickShafer]

Yes, it is a spiritual matter.
Paul said now there is no difference between the gentiles and the Jews.
Because the identity of nations as either holy or profane has been torn down with the veil.
Now it is a matter of the heart, each individual soul.
And this answers your question about entire nations being saved Still.
It is a matter of souls, each individual soul, and not nations anymore.
Yes, theoretically whole nations can be saved. But God does it one by one.
One heart at a time, because He died for each soul.
- Now this gets into predestination which I want to stay away from, for the purposes of this truth.
- That God came to save sinners, souls are sinners, not nations.
- Nations sin, but they are governmental corporations, and not souls.

 

[Graybeard]

They may have a better view of Jesus if some of his followers would quit funding people who kick them out of their houses in the name of "settlements".

Perhaps, but there is no excuse before God.

 

[crossnote]

I don't believe the Eph 2 passage is referring to unsaved Palestinians. Christ died for them but until they trust in Jesus they are not part of the body of Christ. They, as well as other unbelievers are separated from His Body.

 

[notuptome]

They may have a better view of Jesus if some of his followers would quit funding people who kick them out of their houses in the name of "settlements".

Don't quite know how to take that comment. I could seem a bit anti-Semitic. God has given the land to Israel not to the Palestinian. Israel is willing to let them live in peace if they will stop sending rockets into Israeli occupied areas. As part of Ismael's descendants they can be blessed. Historically they have resisted God's blessing.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[zone]

They may have a better view of Jesus if some of his followers would quit funding people who kick them out of their houses in the name of "settlements".

 

[1still_waters]

but until they trust in Jesus they are not part of the body of Christ. .

there you go statin the obvious.

 

[zone]

Don't quite know how to take that comment. I could seem a bit anti-Semitic. God has given the land to Israel not to the Palestinian. Israel is willing to let them live in peace if they will stop sending rockets into Israeli occupied areas. As part of Ismael's descendants they can be blessed. Historically they have resisted God's blessing.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

DISPENSATIONAL RUBBISH.

flee.

if you can't find your way out...ask for HELP.
don't delay.

 

[Michael50]

Having lived in Israel for a short time, I can tell you no way that the Israeli people would allow Palestinians to enter into and blow themselves up like they have in the past.

The palestians have no intention of making peace with Israel. They have no right to Jerusalem. That land was given to Israel by God.

Those who are not Israeli citizens have no right to claim who is entitled to enter into Israel, a Soverign Nation.

Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems that the desire of this thread is to garner support for Palestinians and to overthrow the soverign right of a foriegn Country,,Israel.

We can recieve Jesus in a dungeon. To claim people are denied the ability to know Jesus because they are building "settlements" is as weak as blaming a grocery store for sombody being obese.

I look at the Palestians as Philistines. They raise there children to hate the Jewish people from the time they are born. They shoot rockets from populated areas and then cry FOUL when the Israelis return fire and kill civilians. Then these same palestinians hold up their dead as if they are being massacered without cause.

The palestinians could care less about knowing Jesus. There desire is that ALL Jews are put on crosses.

 

[Angela53510]

I think God's will is that everyone would be saved.

"The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

Two reasons why people are not saved that are OUR problem:
1. They have not heard the gospel preached.
2. They have seen "Christians" who do not follow God and it tarnishes the gospel.

One reason that is THEIR problem they are not saved:
1.They reject Christ when they have heard and know he is God!

Of course, you might be able to add other reasons. Personally, I would rather focus on HOW people get saved, rather than how they do NOT!

 

[zone]

Perhaps, but there is no excuse before God.

how about unbelieving jews - Israelis?
do they have an excuse before God?

some unfulfilled promise?
some non-existent Covenant?
special wombs?

purleeze.

 

[zone]

Having lived in Israel for a short time, I can tell you no way that the Israeli people would allow Palestinians to enter into and blow themselves up like they have in the past.

The palestians have no intention of making peace with Israel. They have no right to Jerusalem. That land was given to Israel by God.

Those who are not Israeli citizens have no right to claim who is entitled to enter into Israel, a Soverign Nation.

Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems that the desire of this thread is to garner support for Palestinians and to overthrow the soverign right of a foriegn Country,,Israel.

We can recieve Jesus in a dungeon. To claim people are denied the ability to know Jesus because they are building "settlements" is as weak as blaming a grocery store for sombody being obese.

I look at the Palestians as Philistines. They raise there children to hate the Jewish people from the time they are born.

They shoot rockets from populated areas and then cry FOUL when the Israelis return fire and kill civilians. Then these same palestinians hold up their dead as if they are being massacered without cause.

The palestinians could care less about knowing Jesus. There desire is that ALL Jews are put on crosses.

They have no right to Jerusalem. That land was given to Israel by God.

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

 

[Michael50]

They have no right to Jerusalem. That land was given to Israel by God.

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

If that is your best reply,, it should tell you that your position is weak,, and wrong.

 

[zone]

If that is your best reply,, it should tell you that your position is weak,, and wrong.

you said trash like:

Originally Posted by Michael50
Having lived in Israel for a short time, I can tell you no way that the Israeli people would allow Palestinians to enter into and blow themselves up like they have in the past.

The palestians have no intention of making peace with Israel. They have no right to Jerusalem. That land was given to Israel by God.

Those who are not Israeli citizens have no right to claim who is entitled to enter into Israel, a Soverign Nation.

Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems that the desire of this thread is to garner support for Palestinians and to overthrow the soverign right of a foriegn Country,,Israel.

We can recieve Jesus in a dungeon. To claim people are denied the ability to know Jesus because they are building "settlements" is as weak as blaming a grocery store for sombody being obese.

I look at the Palestians as Philistines. They raise there children to hate the Jewish people from the time they are born.

They shoot rockets from populated areas and then cry FOUL when the Israelis return fire and kill civilians. Then these same palestinians hold up their dead as if they are being massacered without cause.

The palestinians could care less about knowing Jesus. There desire is that ALL Jews are put on crosses.

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that just shows you're either an Hasbara paid agent, or totally ignorant. (brainwashed is actually accurate).
can't be bothered with it at this time.

there's plenty of factual information about that Dual Covenant Heresy to investigate your unbiblical ideas.

but you'd have to want to know.
ta

 

[1still_waters]

how about unbelieving jews - Israelis?
do they have an excuse before God?

some unfulfilled promise?
some non-existent Covenant?
special wombs?

purleeze.

Maybe he thinks Jews can't believe cuz they'd burst open like wine skins? Someone actually taught that on these forums.

 

[zone]

Maybe he thinks Jews can't believe cuz they'd burst open like wine skins? Someone actually taught that on these forums.

OH YA...cough cough..

more precisely, the jews would have exploded if Jesus had given them the New Covenant Gospel...so He kindly preserved them in blindness to Him and the New Covenant, and they are saved in blindness; rejection of Him; rebellion...in their good Old Testament Wine Skins.

as a Witness to something.

dunno what.

 

[Graybeard]

how about unbelieving jews - Israelis?
do they have an excuse before God?

some unfulfilled promise?
some non-existent Covenant?
special wombs?

purleeze.

huh??.......NO ONE = NONE = ZILCH = NADA are without excuse....there are NO exclusions.

 

[1still_waters]

Actually Palestinians who believe in Jesus will get access to that land in eternity, while Jews who reject Jesus won't have any access to the land. Palestinian believers are the seed of Abraham. Jewish rejectors of Jesus are not the seed of Abraham.