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Luke 5:21...who can forgive sins but God alone. Somebody has made an incorrect interpretation of John 20:23. Jesus did not give the authority to forgive sins to man even Peter. God gave the keys to man. The keys are the word of God and the Holy Spirit. Those who receive will be saved those who reject will be lost. There is no return to innocence as has been suggested there is however a point at which God will trouble a soul no longer about hell.
The Mormons practice baptism for the dead which includes prayers. We should consider that God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. God however will not force a man to be saved. John 3:19 tells us that they prefer sin and turn from the light. It should also be noted that the catholics do not know with certainty that even their popes are going to heaven. Purgatory yes but not heaven. Luke 16 should tell them that there is no escape from their purgatory.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The Mormons practice baptism for the dead which includes prayers. We should consider that God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. God however will not force a man to be saved. John 3:19 tells us that they prefer sin and turn from the light. It should also be noted that the catholics do not know with certainty that even their popes are going to heaven. Purgatory yes but not heaven. Luke 16 should tell them that there is no escape from their purgatory.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
No flak from me,
I believe you, and God has got a purpose in all that God does and this was more for you than your Dad, your Dad was already forgiven by God back at the cross, and see you see this too and therefore you forgave, which released you here and now.
Unfogiveness of others, whether right or wrong, does not matter, because unforgiveness is a crippler, it holds one in bondage every time they remember the bad that someone else did and if you do not believe God took it all away at the cross then one is crippled all the more trying to stop their sin and can't by their own flesh efforts, ever.
Now before the cross we had to forgive to get forgiven and love to get loved
After the cross the resurrection, where are made back to life in the Spirit of God we forgive because we are forgiven and we love becasue we are loved
A big difference before and after the cross, I call it the dividing line in human history
Before the cross, flesh working hard to get others and God to be pleased by what we do
After the cross born in the Spirit of God we are pleased by what God did and respond accordingly
Hope this helps in your walk
I believe you, and God has got a purpose in all that God does and this was more for you than your Dad, your Dad was already forgiven by God back at the cross, and see you see this too and therefore you forgave, which released you here and now.
Unfogiveness of others, whether right or wrong, does not matter, because unforgiveness is a crippler, it holds one in bondage every time they remember the bad that someone else did and if you do not believe God took it all away at the cross then one is crippled all the more trying to stop their sin and can't by their own flesh efforts, ever.
Now before the cross we had to forgive to get forgiven and love to get loved
After the cross the resurrection, where are made back to life in the Spirit of God we forgive because we are forgiven and we love becasue we are loved
A big difference before and after the cross, I call it the dividing line in human history
Before the cross, flesh working hard to get others and God to be pleased by what we do
After the cross born in the Spirit of God we are pleased by what God did and respond accordingly
Hope this helps in your walk
It says if I do retain anyone elses sin against them or anyone else then I haven't recieved the forgivenss that God already did for me.
Since God has past tense already forgiven me through the cross, who am I to hold anyone's sin(s) against them
And letus read it in context
John 20:21-23
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
Do you think these disciples held anything against anyone after the reception of the Holy Ghost. Notice Jesus breathed on them, could that possibly be the breath of life that god back in the garden brethed on Adam and man became a living Soul? We are restored by God through the cross and in reception of life, our souls restored.
We are not to be focused on whether we sin or not, because as a man sows
Galatians 6:8
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Since God has past tense already forgiven me through the cross, who am I to hold anyone's sin(s) against them
And letus read it in context
John 20:21-23
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
Do you think these disciples held anything against anyone after the reception of the Holy Ghost. Notice Jesus breathed on them, could that possibly be the breath of life that god back in the garden brethed on Adam and man became a living Soul? We are restored by God through the cross and in reception of life, our souls restored.
We are not to be focused on whether we sin or not, because as a man sows
Galatians 6:8
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
No !!! There's no someone who can save another someone. Each must have her/his own choice. Salvation is promised to anyone who will confess with his or her mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in their heart that God raised Jesus from the dead.
Each one of us must confess to get saved
"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" Romans 10:10
Each one of us must confess to get saved
"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" Romans 10:10
D
It's not about holding a grudge. Retaining one's sins is about judgement because it is deserved. Peter brought godly judgement to Ananias and Sapphira. Even though they claimed to be Christians, their sins caught up with them. No one would say a judge in a courtroom convicts others out of unforgiveness or a grudge.
I guess we all happy when we hear of forgiveness but as soon as the bible mentions retaining sins, we twist that around to mean something other than the black and white of scripture. Jesus actually says if they retain someone's sin it is retained, yet you are trying to say that can not be. Am I correct in saying this or not?
I guess we all happy when we hear of forgiveness but as soon as the bible mentions retaining sins, we twist that around to mean something other than the black and white of scripture. Jesus actually says if they retain someone's sin it is retained, yet you are trying to say that can not be. Am I correct in saying this or not?
W
Catholic doctrine believes this, deeds and prayers here on earth can change the fate of people who have passed away. We would not need a saviour like Jesus then if it was left up to us to pray someone into heaven, would we? We also would never have to have a conciouns or try to be more like our saviour, if we could rely on our relatives to pray us in. In the Islamic faith they believe that a women can only enter into heaven if her husband fetches her. He literally comes back and fetches her from the grave. So when she is a wife to a muslim man and herself being a muslim women she makes sure she does everything the way he likes, and how he likes and when he likes, to make sure he comes to fetch her. This too is the reason so many muslim girls get married so young, because should they pass away before they are married they can never enter heaven because there is no husband to fetch them. So sad hey?
Thank you Lord Jesus that you offer us a free gift, that you love us totally unconditionally.
Thank you Lord Jesus that you offer us a free gift, that you love us totally unconditionally.
Confess our sins to one another and be healed
About Ananias and Sapphira. You know they could have just told the truth that they sold the land for this much and said we are holding back part of it. It was theirs to sell and give or not give.
Now they were surprised as how did Peter know? Shocked and IMO they each had heart attacks and died.
This lying cheating, stealing, is going on this very day all over, people masquerading as believer's and are not.
This is why Christ will say go away to those that work iniquity, act as if they are for others when in truth only out for themselves. And is why it is a personal free choice for each individual to want to know God for one purpose
"Comfort God by letting God know that you would see God just to dwell in God's Presence. Not for teaching, not for material gain, not even for a message, but for God. The longing of the human heart to be loved for itself is something caught from the Great Divine Heart."
Motive is what all will be judged on, purpose and God knows, if purpose not right, God does not reveal truth to the ones that have malice, and continues to be kind, to lead one to change ones mind from unbelief to belief
Romans 2:4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?
Unbelief in God through Christ is the only issue that God never died for. The reason, God will not take away free choice. So it is only each person that can actually make the choice whether to either believe or not, personally
About Ananias and Sapphira. You know they could have just told the truth that they sold the land for this much and said we are holding back part of it. It was theirs to sell and give or not give.
Now they were surprised as how did Peter know? Shocked and IMO they each had heart attacks and died.
This lying cheating, stealing, is going on this very day all over, people masquerading as believer's and are not.
This is why Christ will say go away to those that work iniquity, act as if they are for others when in truth only out for themselves. And is why it is a personal free choice for each individual to want to know God for one purpose
"Comfort God by letting God know that you would see God just to dwell in God's Presence. Not for teaching, not for material gain, not even for a message, but for God. The longing of the human heart to be loved for itself is something caught from the Great Divine Heart."
Motive is what all will be judged on, purpose and God knows, if purpose not right, God does not reveal truth to the ones that have malice, and continues to be kind, to lead one to change ones mind from unbelief to belief
Romans 2:4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?
Unbelief in God through Christ is the only issue that God never died for. The reason, God will not take away free choice. So it is only each person that can actually make the choice whether to either believe or not, personally
I do not think this, I think it good to pray for others, just understand it is not us that cause the other to believe or not. We pray we pray for protection as Christ said to the Disciples pray in this manner, Hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come and you know as I do the rest of the Lord's prayer.
Question for today is that prayer fulfilled via the cross of Christ. I say this because in this prayer is forgive us as we forgive our debtors, and this prayer was asked by Jesus for his disciples to pray.
So since Christ made it to the cross and rose after death in the Spirit, as was prophesied, the next Question is how many sins did he die for?
And if he did die for all the sins of the world as John the Baptist said he was going to (John 1:29).
Would that make it after the cross we are 100% forgiven, by the death at the cross.
So if this is true, and we are 100%forgiven before any of us here now were ever born, what do we do with this?
Do we continue to forgive to get forgiven and ask God to forgive us over and over again?
Or do we forgive period, because we are forgiven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
And so how do we love then after the cross?
A little off topic, but felt needed this to be said, please no offense meant, just love as God loves me, and forgive as God has forgiven me.
1 John 4:19 We love because he first loved us.
How can any of us refuse such a miraculous, merciful God to believe in?
Question for today is that prayer fulfilled via the cross of Christ. I say this because in this prayer is forgive us as we forgive our debtors, and this prayer was asked by Jesus for his disciples to pray.
So since Christ made it to the cross and rose after death in the Spirit, as was prophesied, the next Question is how many sins did he die for?
And if he did die for all the sins of the world as John the Baptist said he was going to (John 1:29).
Would that make it after the cross we are 100% forgiven, by the death at the cross.
So if this is true, and we are 100%forgiven before any of us here now were ever born, what do we do with this?
Do we continue to forgive to get forgiven and ask God to forgive us over and over again?
Or do we forgive period, because we are forgiven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
And so how do we love then after the cross?
A little off topic, but felt needed this to be said, please no offense meant, just love as God loves me, and forgive as God has forgiven me.
1 John 4:19 We love because he first loved us.
How can any of us refuse such a miraculous, merciful God to believe in?
And by this you are helping in stopping the demonic forces, trying to keep them from belief in Christ
2 Corinthians 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
Romans 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;
Romans 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;
Philippians 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
2 Corinthians 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
Romans 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;
Romans 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;
Philippians 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,