Is there such a person as a Prophet in modern times?

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danschance

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I believe there is such a thing as the gift of prophecy but does that make them a modern day prophet?
 
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Graybeard

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umm, I think it just means they have the gift of Prophecy.
 
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richie_2uk

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I believe God give us the gift of prophesy even in modern times. As God is same today, yesterday and forever. He gave the gift of prophesy yesterday ( the past ), today ( present ) and will continue for ever ( future ). So technically yes the person who God gives the gift of prophesy is a modern one.
 
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danschance

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Yes, we have the gift of prophecy today, but does that mean the person who has the gift of prophecy a prophet? I see several persons on facebook claim to be prophets. Is that title given by God or did they assume it?
 

jb

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A bit of a study on the ministry of a prophet can be found Here

Yahweh Shalom...
 
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NiceneCreed

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I believe there is such a thing as the gift of prophecy but does that make them a modern day prophet?

I don't think there are any more prophets, as God's complete revelation is found in the Holy Bible. This does not mean I do not believe people still have the gift of prophecy, but even the people who prophecy repeat what has already been said throughout Scripture. There is an often times unclear distinction between a prophet and those who have the gift of prophecy, at least in terms of the fulfillment of God's Word (The Holy Bible).


Grace and Peace!
 

Blain

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I have seen prophesies come true form prophets, of course one of my favorite is harvest army. harvest army predicted about a month or so before facebook crashed that it would crash worldwide and it did. They predicted certain earthquakes in certian areas to happen and it came to pass. Not everyone who makes a prophesy or says they are a prophet are really telling the truth. So the people on facebook claiming to be prophets are probably not prophets. I don't know if it is right for a so called prophet to go and exclaim they are prophets, did any of the prophets in the bible go and say am a prophet of God? I am not sure if they did or not because I have not read the entire bible. But if someone claims to be a prophet I have to do research and examine the person and their motives and such before I even begin to believe they are really prophets
 

starfield

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The bible is God's complete, all-sufficient revelation for today thus we don't need prophets to relay new revelation. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1). With that being said, I think there are way too many so-called prophets nowadays.
 

jb

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umm, I think it just means they have the gift of Prophecy.
The simply gift of prophecy (1Cor 12v7-11) is quite different from the ministry of a prophet (1Cor 12v28-30, Eph 4v11-16)...

All believers can prophesy (1Cor 14v1,31), but not every believer has the ministry of a prophet (1Cor 12v29)...

Yahweh Shalom...
 
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danschance

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Anyone who claims to be a prophet is automatically suspect in my mind. I know God can reveal whatever He wishes to anyone. I just don't see people using the title of Prophet or Prophetess to be valid after Pentecost.
 

Blain

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Prophets are not people who get awesome revelations and foretell the future, they are nothing more than messangers. True prophets only repeat what God says. And yes Prophets are needed in this generation because people do not listen to God and his warnings anymore, so he uses people to speak through. However even then people do not listen, People are blind and refuse to see. God will not reveal things to just anyone, he only reveals things to people who are willing to listen. Nowadays people are so convinced they are right they refuse to back down and humble themselves. Only with a humble and teachable heart will anyone ever learn the secrets of his heart. You must be willing to throw down everything you think you know and seek God's heart as if you just began as a christian. I have said this many times to people, I told them what is on God's heart. Am I prophet? I do not see myself as one no, but I am a seeker of his heart and in doing so he revealed what is on his heart and what he is trying to tell us. But just as in the days Of jesus the main responce to this type of thing is attacking.
 
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danschance

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Well, there is a problem when you call yourself a prophet. Ive seen it a few times on FB. They think they have to post awesome stuff now that they put "prophet" on their shingle. The temptation to fabricate a new even a daily prophecy goes up. If you know what I mean.
 
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BibleEd

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In Matthew 24:11 " and false prophets will arise and mislead many" and Mathew 7:15
“Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves." So how do we know if there are modern day prophets or not? 1 corinthians 13:8 "
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But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with"
So it shows that it was done away with hope this helped!
 

jb

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But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with"
So it shows that it was done away with hope this helped!
When was the gift of prophecy 'done away with', for you are quite wrong in saying that the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1Cor 12v7-11), including prophecy, have been removed, for 1Cor 13v8 teaches that the gifts of the Holy Spirit will be done away with when 'that which is perfect is come' (1Cor 13v10), which is referring to the second coming of Christ, when the Millennium kingdom is set up and we enter into the fullness of the 'powers of the age to come' (i.e. the full ministrations of God, the Holy Spirit)? Heb 6v5.

'That which is perfect has come' 1Cor 13v10 certainly does NOT refer to the Scripture canon!

Acts 2v16-21, 38,38, clearly teaches that the baptism in the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy Spirit and ministries are available to EVERY believer throughout the WHOLE of the age of Grace right up until the sceond coming of Christ and neither is there ANY Scripture that limits or contradicts Acts 2v16-21,38,39! Dan 11v32, 1Cor 12 v7-11,28, Eph 4v7-16, Rev 11v3-6.

Yahweh Shalom
 

notuptome

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When was the gift of prophecy 'done away with', for you are quite wrong in saying that the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1Cor 12v7-11), including prophecy, have been removed, for 1Cor 13v8 teaches that the gifts of the Holy Spirit will be done away with when 'that which is perfect is come' (1Cor 13v10), which is referring to the second coming of Christ, when the Millennium kingdom is set up and we enter into the fullness of the 'powers of the age to come' (i.e. the full ministrations of God, the Holy Spirit)? Heb 6v5.

'That which is perfect has come' 1Cor 13v10 certainly does NOT refer to the Scripture canon!

Acts 2v16-21, 38,38, clearly teaches that the baptism in the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy Spirit and ministries are available to EVERY believer throughout the WHOLE of the age of Grace right up until the sceond coming of Christ and neither is there ANY Scripture that limits or contradicts Acts 2v16-21,38,39! Dan 11v32, 1Cor 12 v7-11,28, Eph 4v7-16, Rev 11v3-6.

Yahweh Shalom
You are quite incorrect. Scripture does not say when the perfect comes a second time. The perfect is not Christ's return. The only thing that was not complete at the time of this writing was the cannon of scripture. The saint of God needs nothing additional to minister to lost souls than the word of God.
Those who call themselves prophets or even better apostles are deceivers. First deceiving themselves then deceiving those who follow them.
The prophecy in 1 Cor is not future telling but forth telling better understood as preaching. Joel 2:28 clearly tells all who will read it that the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh but the sons and daughters of Israel will prophecy and dream dreams and see visions. Modern Pentacostals and Charasmatics would do well to take heed.

For the cause of Christ
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Graybeard

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In Matthew 24:11 " and false prophets will arise and mislead many" and Mathew 7:15
“Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves." So how do we know if there are modern day prophets or not? 1 corinthians 13:8 "
Love never fails.
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But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with"
So it shows that it was done away with hope this helped!
so then that means that knowledge has been done away as well??...
 

notuptome

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so then that means that knowledge has been done away as well??...
Knowledge that fishermen would receive to understand the scriptures expertly enough to reason with the best scholars of the day. Knowledge received today comes from prayerful study of God's word with the Holy Spirit's leading into the truth contained therein. The apostles and early disciples did not have the completed NT. They also did not have opportunity to go to bible college.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

jb

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You are quite incorrect. Scripture does not say when the perfect comes a second time. The perfect is not Christ's return. The only thing that was not complete at the time of this writing was the cannon of scripture. The saint of God needs nothing additional to minister to lost souls than the word of God.
Those who call themselves prophets or even better apostles are deceivers. First deceiving themselves then deceiving those who follow them.
The prophecy in 1 Cor is not future telling but forth telling better understood as preaching. Joel 2:28 clearly tells all who will read it that the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh but the sons and daughters of Israel will prophecy and dream dreams and see visions. Modern Pentacostals and Charasmatics would do well to take heed.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
You act just like the Scribes and Pharisees in the day when the Lord Jesus walked the earth, like them, you venerate the prophets (and apostles) of old (Peter, James, John, Paul, they venerated Moses, Samuel and the other OT prophets), but when a true prophet appears in present times (with a miraculous ministry), you, like them, criticise, judge and condem them! Matt 23v28-31, John 12v37-41

Waken up and stop cherry picking Scriptures in an attempt to cover up you own unbelief (especially with the approach of great evil times in the not to distant future), instead be a Berean. Acts 17v10-12.
 

notuptome

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You act just like the Scribes and Pharisees in the day when the Lord Jesus walked the earth, like them, you venerate the prophets (and apostles) of old (Peter, James, John, Paul, they venerated Moses, Samuel and the other OT prophets), but when a true prophet appears in present times (with a miraculous ministry), you, like them, criticise, judge and condem them! Matt 23v28-31, John 12v37-41

Waken up and stop cherry picking Scriptures in an attempt to cover up you own unbelief (especially with the approach of great evil times in the not to distant future), instead be a Berean. Acts 17v10-12.
1 Cor 14:32 the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. Show me where your prophets are subject to Joel 2:28.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Who knows? I guess God sends His spirit the way He pleases, but using the title, as Prophet, seems boastful. Joel prophecies tells many will speak from God...