Ezekiel's Temple

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Is Ezekiel's Temple an actual temple that will be built with his measurements?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • No

    Votes: 7 43.8%

  • Total voters
    16
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JesusIsAll

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Found this diagram somebody did of Ezekiel's temple. For you Adventists, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that there is a cereal offering, the bad news there are meat offerings, also. (Sorry, Ellen, another thousand years of doctrinal advice shot.) Other than this, perhaps a warning is in order, those of you who learn all your exegesis at the feet of Google, copy and paste whatever interpretations top the hit list: there's no Biblical evidence of a MacDonald's, Taco Bell or KFC in Ezekiel. (Jews, you're neither free to believe there will be a falafel stand.)

Without further adieu, another cool diagram to ponder,


Ezekiel's Food Court.png
 

JimmieD

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When the earth quakes and the Mount of Olives splits

The Lord is going to rearrange the topography big time .... for His millennial temple

It is in the Book
(1) Zechariah 14 seems to think the temple was already built by the time the Mount of Olives splits. And I thought dispy's generally believed the temple is built before Yahweh's feet stand on the Mount of Olives?

(2) The Mount of Olives is not the temple mount. In any case, a literal earthquake that splits the mount of olives from north to south would undoubtedly destroy the temple mount. I don't think it would create a favorable topography to build a temple 500 square reeds in size.

(3) In Zech 14, the armies against Jerusalem carry gold and silver and bring donkeys, horses, mules and camels to the battle. What army these days uses this as their means of transportation and logistics? What nation today has physical gold and silver as their currency that is carried around by their armies?
 
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No, Zechariah does not assume a temple on the mount before the splitting ... because there will not be a tribulation temple of the Lord's on the mount

and the Lord will do the splitting

And in the process He will rearrange the topography to incorporate His millennial temple

You explain to me how you came up with your rendition of the prophet's record
 
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#64
Zechariah
14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
 
J

JesusIsAll

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#65
Ezekiel 44:1-3 Then he brought me back to the outer gate of the sanctuary, which faces east; and it was shut. And he said to me, "This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut. Only the prince may sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by way of the vestibule of the gate, and shall go out by the same way."

You want to know weird from weird, the eastern gate of the Old City of Jerusalem is walled-up, many of you probably know?

"The gate was walled up by the Arabs in the 11th Century after the Crusades, or perhaps by Suleiman the Magnificent in AD 1539-1542 - to prevent the Jewish Messiah from entering. The much older gate beneath the present Golden Gate, or else another, as yet undiscovered, gate in the Eastern wall could have been the one used by Jesus when He rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday riding on the foal of a donkey."

The Golden Gate is an Old City wall, not even a temple wall. And what sort of tools are Muslims, who believe in their faith, I take it, but they're afraid of the Christian faith, and that they need to do something about the Messiah? Afraid Mohammed bailed on them, Allah will be tied up with doing a virgin inventory? And when Christ returns, the Creator, it's as if some bricks would stop Him? Those guys that walled-up the Golden Gate weren't the brightest bulbs in the pack, and those walls are going, "Timber!", when the Mount of Olives cleaves, anyway.
 
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#66
In 40-48 chapters of the book of the prophet Ezekiel, almost everything is a literal description. In the book of the Revelation of John, almost the whole book shows the spiritual world, there is no material world. Nevertheless, both these books are written about the same thing. There is a word about Ezekiel's Temple in the Revelation of John:

And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple... (Rev. 11:19)

This word means that the Third Temple itself will be the ark of the covenant. The ark of the covenant does not appear inside the Temple, the old ark of the covenant will never be found. The Temple itself is the ark that affirms the covenant of Israel with God.

In the prophecy of Ezekiel there is no contradiction with Revelation 21:22.

I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. (Rev. 21:22)

In the 40th chapter of Ezekiel's book there is a description of the same City, without the Temple. And the City, and the Temple, and the historical part of Jerusalem, will be located within the holy allotment, but in different places.



The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell... (Rev. 16:19)

In the future Israel, according to the prophecy of Ezekiel, there is a place for earth (carnal) believers, and in him there is a place for the heavenly (spiritual) believers.

with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth In Him (Eph. 1:10)

Therefore, the lion of Judaism will eat the straw of religion in the Temple, and the child will be safe next to the snake - for the spiritual people the city of Jahveh-Shamm will be built. Money will not be used in this city.

 

Adstar

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Is Ezekiel's Temple an actual temple that will be built with his measurements?

Ezekiel 40:5 - Ezekiel 42:20
I believe this temple will exist during the 1000 year Kingdom that will be established on earth at the return of the LORD Jesus Christ..
 

valiant

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The millennial temple.
Ezekiel's temple was visionary It was meant to be SEEN by Ezekiel, not built. Only an altar was to be built. It was an assurance to the people to whom Ezekiel wrote that God was still with them but that the temple mount was no longer His dwelling place,
 
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It was meant to be SEEN by Ezekiel, not built...
Then why all the detail?

You spiritualize everything. I do not. I have a high view of scripture.

"I prefer clarity to agreement." ~ Dennis Prager
 

Ahwatukee

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Then why all the detail?

You spiritualize everything. I do not. I have a high view of scripture.

"I prefer clarity to agreement." ~ Dennis Prager
Greetings serpentdove,

I'm with you on this. God devoted 8 chapters regarding the temple in Ezekiel. That would be a lot of chapters and a lot of detail for an imaginary temple. Not only that, but it is written as something that will take place. Even the precise land allotments for the twelve tribes of Israel are given, including the location of the temple within those allotments.

Preterists, such as Valiant, must allegorize everything in order to support their position, even if it appears to be ridiculous, as is his claim of the temple only meant to be seen by Ezekiel and not a literal temple to be built.
 
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...Preterists, such as Valiant, must allegorize everything in order to support their position, even if it appears to be ridiculous, as is his claim of the temple only meant to be seen by Ezekiel and not a literal temple to be built.
Our hermeneutics determine how we become convinced of these things.


 

Ahwatukee

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In the prophecy of Ezekiel there is no contradiction with Revelation 21:22.

I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. (Rev. 21:22)

In the 40th chapter of Ezekiel's book there is a description of the same City, without the Temple. And the City, and the Temple, and the historical part of Jerusalem, will be located within the holy allotment, but in different places.
Hello aryeh,

The above is incorrect, as the there is most definitely a temple in Ezekiel's temple, which will exist during the millennial period. There is a big contradiction in regards to Ezekiel's temple and the New Jerusalem. The measurements of Ezekiel's temple are much bigger than Solomon's temple at any point in time. And the measurement for the new Jerusalem is approx. 1,500 miles wide, deep and high, with walls that are 200 ft. thick.

What's more is that, the new Jerusalem will never touch down on this current heaven and earth, for it is revealed during the time of the new heaven and new earth. Rev.21-22 is in reference to the eternal state, which takes place after the great white throne judgement.
 

valiant

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Originally Posted by valiant
It was meant to be SEEN by Ezekiel, not built...
Then why all the detail?
It was so that Ezekiel could describe it in detail to his contemporaries to prove that it existed

You spiritualize everything. I do not. I have a high view of scripture.
Nowhere is there any suggestion that the Temple be built. Ezekiel SAW it. God had sent it down for him to see and to give assurance to His people.

so you don't believe that Elisha and his servant saw the armies of God? Is that spiritualising too? My view of Scripture is as high as yours. But I compare Scripture with Scripture and realise what God was doing.
 
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Hello aryeh,

The above is incorrect, as the there is most definitely a temple in Ezekiel's temple, which will exist during the millennial period. There is a big contradiction in regards to Ezekiel's temple and the New Jerusalem. The measurements of Ezekiel's temple are much bigger than Solomon's temple at any point in time. And the measurement for the new Jerusalem is approx. 1,500 miles wide, deep and high, with walls that are 200 ft. thick.

What's more is that, the new Jerusalem will never touch down on this current heaven and earth, for it is revealed during the time of the new heaven and new earth. Rev.21-22 is in reference to the eternal state, which takes place after the great white throne judgement.
Do you think maybe they bring back animal sacrifices as a memorial? OR because Christ is there and faith is no longer required since you can literally SEE His kingdom?

I think its just because what is written must be fulfilled, its said that Israel will keep Moses' laws one day etc? Abraham never got his land either (in his earthly life)
 
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#76
Our hermeneutics determine how we become convinced of these things.


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#77
I voted on the poll and noticed MAJORITY voted "NO"?
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON!!? The temple is clearly described in the bible isnt it? hmm.

 

valiant

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Greetings serpentdove,

I'm with you on this. God devoted 8 chapters regarding the temple in Ezekiel. That would be a lot of chapters and a lot of detail for an imaginary temple.


It was not an imaginary temple. It was built in Heaven and came down to earth so that Ezekiel could see it and explore it and describe it in detail. Like the armies of God and Elisha it was only visible to those whom God trusted. There was never any suggestion that it be built.

Not only that, but it is written as something that will take place. Even the precise land allotments for the twelve tribes of Israel are given, including the location of the temple within those allotments.
LOL well they'll have to build it before the Jews build one on the Temple Mount.

Preterists, such as Valiant,
That is a LIE. I have regularly denied being a preterist. You should be ashamed of yourself, or haven't you any shame?

 

Ahwatukee

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#79
Do you think maybe they bring back animal sacrifices as a memorial? OR because Christ is there and faith is no longer required since you can literally SEE His kingdom?

I think its just because what is written must be fulfilled, its said that Israel will keep Moses' laws one day etc? Abraham never got his land either (in his earthly life)
Truthfully, I don't know why there will be sacrifices during the millennial period, since Christ was the ultimate sacrifice. All I know is that there is a temple mentioned in Ezekiel in great detail, that neither fits the measurements of any of the past temple's nor of the measurements of the new Jerusalem. And since the temple during the tribulation period will be located on the temple mount and the new Jerusalem will come down out of heaven from God after the millennial period, in the eternal state, then the only time frame that Ezekiel's temple could exist would be during the millennial period.
 
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Truthfully, I don't know why there will be sacrifices during the millennial period, since Christ was the ultimate sacrifice...
It's the millennium; but, it's not heaven.


"The offerings (45:18–25; 46:9–15, 19–24): On the first day of each new year, in the early spring, they are to sacrifice a bull to purify the Temple."[1]

[HR][/HR][1] Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Eze 45:18–25). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.