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I’m not the one that saves, salvation is of the LORD. However, I'll teach the truth of His word because of love. I am not going to give Christ-rejecters false comfort that they can live in unbelief and still enter heaven. If anyone is showing hatred here, it is you. Is it loving to give Christ-rejecters false assurance of salvation with another gospel? The bible says few will find the narrow way to eternal life but you say all will find it. Is that love? You have absolutely no concern for unsaved souls that's why you preach the satanic doctrine of universalism (i.e. everyone will ultimately be saved). Repent.
I'm not saying that I'm hated by Christians. Most of them simply dont want me around. Not because I stand against the damage organized religion is doing either. They don't even know me, but they run. Mainly the hierarchy gets real nervous if I just walk in there door. They feel convicted and they get jealous. They want me outta there and I haven't even opened my mouth yet. I became aware of this as soon as I got saved. Bad breath you say. No. I gargle before I go.
When you die, what you said won't mean a thing. The wages of sin is death, and you will collect. The bible does say that FEW find life. Abraham found it, as well as a few others. But Christ said that He came to give His life for the MANY! Do you go to a doctor if you aren't sick? One who is well needs no physician.
That is quite different from saying that because you forgave someone that they will be in heaven. You have the obligation to forgive others as they trespass against you but you cannot grant Gods forgiveness against His righteousness. Sin against God can only be forgiven through the atoning blood of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
For the cause of Christ
Roger
IDK if I should say anything on this thread, oldie, much banning, but here goes anyways. It's true Christ did say that, and not that anything is wronge with Jesus The Son of God. Since we are followers of him, of a spiritual new birth, then his HOly Spirit resides with us, and how could any thing be wrong with the Holy Spirit. I don't think that Jesus was telling us that other believers would hate believers, as we are of one body, in Jesus CHrist. Through out years, I found this. There's much ills in people's minds, and they live that way, unless they get healed. The curse has not changed from the fall since Adam and Eve.
Jesus did not come for a masquerade party on earth, but he said, " I've come to set the captive free, and heal, to bind up the broken hearted. I sure didn't come from a perfecto family, and everyone's got a story. But heres the answer. Without salvation, and the HOly Spirit, we all know the vacancies and what fills up, if not Jesus. The way truth and the light.
THe adversary the hater of the soul, and called the destroyer, who comes to rob, steal and destroy men's lives. Jesus said, "I've come to give life more abundantly." I believe he's referring to those problematic people, those who have not turned their selves over and into the arms, of Jesus, who welcomes us all, and not just a one prayer, but a commitment to a life time of Repentance, in obedience to him, spiritually born of his spirit, and growing in Truth, of him. Without him, Jesus himself said, things how the heart is, and how the carnal mind, is that doesn't seek after the Lord is. So there's an extreme that I found out personally, there's no balance, it's either extreme jealousy, hatred, menacing;, and every thing that is contrary to the Word of God. Then on the other side, there is extreme obsessiveness and all the ill things that go with that.
There's no balance. I've found very few loving friends, many on here;, and some in the churches, some a handful. The nature of man, without Christ, is to see what they can get, Jesus came to give, and love, their's the big difference, of the rebirth of the Spirit. It's an extreme on both sides. Hate, Jealousy these two things opposite of Love. "The bible talks about
Jealousy is cruel as the grave. "Corinthians 13 "LOVE IS NOT JEALOUS.' noT HUMAN FOLIO LOVE, BUT Being surrounded by and in God's love, REal love, God's way;, God's agape love, is not Never jealous. John 3:16, God so loved the WORLD, people are in need of Jesus. Much is said about people's conduct concerning their attitudes and demeanor, and dispositions, about life. " It says, they hate the light, and men love the darkness more than the light, for they don't want their deeds to be known. :Much is said about it.
Jesus did not come for a masquerade party on earth, but he said, " I've come to set the captive free, and heal, to bind up the broken hearted. I sure didn't come from a perfecto family, and everyone's got a story. But heres the answer. Without salvation, and the HOly Spirit, we all know the vacancies and what fills up, if not Jesus. The way truth and the light.
THe adversary the hater of the soul, and called the destroyer, who comes to rob, steal and destroy men's lives. Jesus said, "I've come to give life more abundantly." I believe he's referring to those problematic people, those who have not turned their selves over and into the arms, of Jesus, who welcomes us all, and not just a one prayer, but a commitment to a life time of Repentance, in obedience to him, spiritually born of his spirit, and growing in Truth, of him. Without him, Jesus himself said, things how the heart is, and how the carnal mind, is that doesn't seek after the Lord is. So there's an extreme that I found out personally, there's no balance, it's either extreme jealousy, hatred, menacing;, and every thing that is contrary to the Word of God. Then on the other side, there is extreme obsessiveness and all the ill things that go with that.
There's no balance. I've found very few loving friends, many on here;, and some in the churches, some a handful. The nature of man, without Christ, is to see what they can get, Jesus came to give, and love, their's the big difference, of the rebirth of the Spirit. It's an extreme on both sides. Hate, Jealousy these two things opposite of Love. "The bible talks about
Jealousy is cruel as the grave. "Corinthians 13 "LOVE IS NOT JEALOUS.' noT HUMAN FOLIO LOVE, BUT Being surrounded by and in God's love, REal love, God's way;, God's agape love, is not Never jealous. John 3:16, God so loved the WORLD, people are in need of Jesus. Much is said about people's conduct concerning their attitudes and demeanor, and dispositions, about life. " It says, they hate the light, and men love the darkness more than the light, for they don't want their deeds to be known. :Much is said about it.
This really is a good bible topic. A lot of scriptures about this. Here's one. John 3:20 { All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed NLT.} So the Lord Jesus is not saying believers are the haters, of believers. Although we could do that and that is where repentance comes in , as we "all fall short of his glory, and all our righteousnesses is as a filthy rag." Isaiah 64:6. There is not one good," bv. So, I wouldn't worry about haters, as they are feeling the light of the LOrd within us, and those it says who contend with you, God will contend with them. Some just don't believe in God, or that he is Our Heavenly Father, being born again of his Spirit, Galations 4:6 " And because we are his children, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, prompting us to call out, "Abba, Father." I don't know about you, but God sticks up for his own children being born of his Spirit,says so right in this verse. WE cry or call Abba in Hebrew, FAther God. Psalm 91:15 Call unto me in the day of trouble, and I will deliver thee and help thee, and honor thee and satisfy you with a long life. God also says," ;you are of your father the devil. John 8:44 You belong to your father the devil.
I said In a post one time, Jesus was a thug. I meant he was very tough. He's not violent.
Haters of those who do good. without love, unforgiving Slanderous, brutal { 2 Timothy 3:3}
John 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love it's own, but because you are not of the world I chose you out of the world because of this you are hated. WE are in this world, but not of it.
One commentary says, that really is nothing. There is no unconditional love any way. Hate and coldness could come and go, like the weather in some. God's love is unconditional, you can guarantee
he is ther waiting for us, all the time, always, we just need to kneel in prayer, as the story of the prodigal son, who left, and ended up eating the pigs corn husks after spending his father's inheritance of harlots. His father welcomed him back, as he had remorse, and repented. The KJ Version has the word hate 87 times. the word hated 60.
It is not our loss. "Greater is he within us, than the spirit of lawlessness, and corruption that is in the world." John 4:4.
Just as a loving Kind Father, would be to his children, because they are born of him, from him, Fathered by him,, so it says God loves us even more than that . { Matthew 7:11} You know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more does your Heavenly Father love you.
It's a Spiritual Mystery, since we are spiritually created by a God who is called "God is a Spirit," he breathed life into the nostrils of man, and man became a living soul, Genesis.
The spirit of man, goes back to God.
It's not evolution, our family members are not in the local Zoo.
I said In a post one time, Jesus was a thug. I meant he was very tough. He's not violent.
Haters of those who do good. without love, unforgiving Slanderous, brutal { 2 Timothy 3:3}
John 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love it's own, but because you are not of the world I chose you out of the world because of this you are hated. WE are in this world, but not of it.
One commentary says, that really is nothing. There is no unconditional love any way. Hate and coldness could come and go, like the weather in some. God's love is unconditional, you can guarantee
he is ther waiting for us, all the time, always, we just need to kneel in prayer, as the story of the prodigal son, who left, and ended up eating the pigs corn husks after spending his father's inheritance of harlots. His father welcomed him back, as he had remorse, and repented. The KJ Version has the word hate 87 times. the word hated 60.
It is not our loss. "Greater is he within us, than the spirit of lawlessness, and corruption that is in the world." John 4:4.
Just as a loving Kind Father, would be to his children, because they are born of him, from him, Fathered by him,, so it says God loves us even more than that . { Matthew 7:11} You know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more does your Heavenly Father love you.
It's a Spiritual Mystery, since we are spiritually created by a God who is called "God is a Spirit," he breathed life into the nostrils of man, and man became a living soul, Genesis.
The spirit of man, goes back to God.
It's not evolution, our family members are not in the local Zoo.
Gods true Word is what the world Hates because it calls for repentance. the prophets were hated and persecuted, the Jews are and have been the most persecuted people on earth, and Christians pretty much the same as Jews through History since the church was founded. its because they all had the Word of God. the world is opposed to Gods word. Even some proffesing Christians hate Gods Word and cringe at the truth of it. and therefore reject and dislike those who carry it in them. Gods Word came into the World to save us, and we crucified it.....