ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED,

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Hi all be blessed and stay blessed.

After hearing this discussion quite a few times in public chat. i feel the need to post this i feel that this discusion is a personal thing and something i should always seek guiadance on and something that i think fits accordingly with

mathew 24 [SUP]45 [/SUP]“Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? [SUP]46 [/SUP]It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. [SUP]47 [/SUP]Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. [SUP]48 [/SUP]But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ [SUP]49 [/SUP]and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. [SUP]50 [/SUP]The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. [SUP]51 [/SUP]He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

from verse 51 does this look saved to you, (yes or no)

this scripture i feel is not not just about a master and his slave, i feel this is also about a christian and god.
some people may not recieve a message late in life for me there is always time to make the change.
i think it is a christians duty to help people who are stuck on this question not argue about it or turn it into a personal attack, which has happened in here.

the scriture tells us above that the good christian will allways do good because he knows the lord is always watching.
the people who forget this will not seek guidance first on decisions or behavior. (which leads i feel to verse 51 the person in that state who does not make the change will continue to be drunk or poor of spirit.
for me i feel spirutaly a person can grow and grow to the point where nothing unclean can touch them.

i felt convicted one night for saying a weding was not valid in a mormon church, i said it without thinking i realised afterwards that people who wed no matter what church also make a vow i feel the holy spirit gives its blessing.

i felt afterwards that i had spoke bad about the holy spirit and i felt convicted all night i was worried that my farther may leave me. i was like this for 3 to 4hours in a silent state and i felt the spirit still, i no longer feal this way.
because from that day on i truly believe that the lord will provide. always.

the point is this is something that can happen to not just me but others to, owing up to your own conviction is the same as asking for forgivness. and truly wanting god to see that change and to keeep that change is what makes the diffrence.
 
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jkalyna

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People made up this statement. "once saved always saved" it's something that only the LOrd could judge. What I think about this is that the many scriptures in the bible that say, "be either hot or cold , not lukewarm like in the world and a little bit of Jesus on a sunday. It says the Lord will spew them out. Like the 10 virgins, 5 wise 5 foolish, that neither gave regards to respecting the coming of the LOrd, in watch, and wasted their oil. While the other's were awaiting the return of the master. Just an example of "you can not serve two masters" it's either the LOrd, or the Devil. Many are the scriptures, that are loud as a mountain echo that are throughout the word of God. Jesus himself , said Love not the world neither the things in the world, for the love of the world is enmity with God. I'm not going to Judge another, by the statement "once saved always saved" the fruits prove it, if they are fruits of righoutousness, or the fruits of unrightousness, so it says, "you shall know them by their fruits." There was an article, on mailuk and pictures of the worst gang leaders of salvador, some of them had a picture of jesus on the back, does that give permission to be forgiven if they kill, and do not repent, no it does not, therefore they are seperated from the Lord. They are not at the point of if death came to them, they would go to be with the Lord, for it says, "no murderer shall enter the kingdom of heaven. The picture is a thing of the flesh, but if repentance takes place it is in the spirit, being born again. No I don't believe that if someone says the sinners prayer once, and lives for the devil that they are saved. People have a free will either to leave salvation where they recieved it, or continue to grow in the word, and in the light of his Love. Words, pictures mean nothing, Jesus himself said, "many honor him with just their lips, but their heart is far away. Total surrender to the Lord, and being in obdience as his children is being his, he called some, you are of your father the devil, he was a murderer and liar from the beginning. How could the violent gang member with a picture of Jesus even think they are saved. The violent, the anger, the hatred of another that killed someone, is not the fruits of the HOly Spirit, it is not hard to figure out, " you shall know them by their fruits, talk is cheap. Honor to the Lord in obedience to his word is Priceless we are bought with a great price, the death and ressurection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus the anointed one.
 

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