IT'S BECOME A BOTHER!

[Ladykool]

I'm really confused about this. In the church where I worship, women don't wear trousers. But there are women in other churches that were trousers and their lives are just what you want them to be in Christ. Yet there are women in my church who don't wear trousers but you'd be wondering if they are christians at all.n So what is this tyrousers thing about really? Is God completely against it? Does it really amtter what you wear? Please, remember Deut. 22.5 as you reply to this question.

 

[santuzza]

Is this really a serious question? I wear trousers, but their designed for women, sooooooo......

What anyone wears is largely irrelevant except for the fact that it should be modest and not provoke anyone to lust.

 

[Agricola]

The whole thing comes around from verses saying how women should not dress like men and men like women. This is taken miles out of context to mean that any garments ment for "women" should not be worn by men and so on, but that is not what those verses really mean.

The whole thing about "wearing clothes of opposite sex", is about changing the appearance of your gender to fool others, just as we see it today with transvestites and of course not fogetting the homoseuxal community where someone will dress to give apperance of oppostie sex in the relationship, a woman with short hair, wearing suit and for all purposes looks like a man.

 

[allaboutlove]

There is nothing sinful about wearing jeans.

 

[notuptome]

There is nothing sinful about wearing jeans.

Not entirely true. If it offends a weaker one in the faith. I do believe we need to be more tolerant of one another especially in matters of this nature. Let us provoke one another to good works and not to sin. Modesty in dress is far more important than comfort or fashion. Is it wrong to have respect for the house of worship? Ought we not to respect where we are, why we are there and with whom we assemble?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[yac11]

When all is said and done. Everything is about you loving God with all your might and he doesn't care what you wear. Except....that whatever you wear you are always remembering your body is a temple, thus adorn it correctly because in it, lives the King of Kings.

God Bless

 

[allaboutlove]

Not entirely true. If it offends a weaker one in the faith. I do believe we n eed to be more tolerant of one another especially in matters of this nature. Let us provoke one another to good works and not to sin. Modesty in dress is far more important than comfort or fashion. Is it wrong to have respect for the house of worship? Ought we not to respect where we are, why we are there and with whom we assemble?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

If my fiance goez somewhere where people are affended she is wearing pants its still not a sin for her to wear pants only to stay there an offend the peop,e..

 

[crossnote]

There is nothing sinful about wearing jeans.

Probably not, but I wouldn't be caught dead (or alive) walking around in a dress.
(Yes, I know, the historical-cultural can be used.)

 

[allaboutlove]

I would think u wearing a dress would be a sin... see the bible says for a women not to wear a mans cloths but they have jeans made for women therefore not wearing mens cloths an its not a sin.... im not sure if the bible tells men not to wear women cloths but if it does well dresses are made for women.

 

[notuptome]

If my fiance goez somewhere where people are affended she is wearing pants its still not a sin for her to wear pants only to stay there an offend the peop,e..

If she knows it will offend and she still goes that is her sin. Our Lord offended some by His actions such as eating with sinners but it was needful for them to be offended.
If we know that some things are going to cause offense then why do we do them? I would love to ditch the coat and tie and wear jeans but I thank God that I have them to wear and surrender my preference to serve the Lord. On a side note my preacher has often opined that he would love to wear bib overhauls in place of his coat and tie. I guess that there are some places where that would be completely appropriate attire but not where the Lord has called him to preach.
We ought to be mindful that not everybody has a closet full of clothes to wear to church. What of the unsaved? Do they feel welcome? Or do they fell less than worthy to worship with us?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[nathan3]

It is a Figure of speech :

Deuteronomy 22:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Back in that day, men wore what would amount to a kind of dress , even in some places they still do.



This is a saying that means: a man should not take the place of a women, or a women should not take the place of a man, in a sexual act.

It has nothing to do with cloths .

 

[allaboutlove]

If she knew it would offend then yes but you can only know that if you know people.... as far as your suit stament an stuff you are right therr are places where people dont have to dress up for church no one in my church wears a suit not even the pastor an all are welcome no matter how you dress with the exception of extreamly revealing clothing ofcourse i find it better that way because people feel more welcome... now im not codeming any churches where the people dress nice that is fine an great an i love alot of chuches like that but there are some who take it to far i know a girl who got banned from a church hecause she had more than one color hair dye in her hair..

 

[MrMalby]

I'm really confused about this. In the church where I worship, women don't wear trousers. But there are women in other churches that were trousers and their lives are just what you want them to be in Christ. Yet there are women in my church who don't wear trousers but you'd be wondering if they are christians at all.n So what is this tyrousers thing about really? Is God completely against it? Does it really amtter what you wear? Please, remember Deut. 22.5 as you reply to this question.

No bother, of course women can wear pants ! (see post #3)

 

[enoch1nine]

I'm really confused about this. In the church where I worship, women don't wear trousers. But there are women in other churches that were trousers and their lives are just what you want them to be in Christ. Yet there are women in my church who don't wear trousers but you'd be wondering if they are christians at all.n So what is this tyrousers thing about really? Is God completely against it? Does it really amtter what you wear? Please, remember Deut. 22.5 as you reply to this question.

The only thing that matters about focusing on the physical trousers or lack thereof, is that they are worrying about material things either way. Lust of the flesh, a totally unrelated, but present, transgression.
Deut 22:5 means men aren't supposed to act effeminate and women aren't supposed to act butch. And that's pertaining to deep within. Don't suppress human gender nature. A man wearing a kilt is a comfort issue. A woman wearing pants is sometimes likewise a comfort issue. If a man wears a party gown and makeup to shock people, or if a Mennonite girl wears pants just to spite her elders, there's something else at the source besides simply Deut 22:5.

If you think of the phrase we throw around that says "You know who wears the pants in that family."
I think it's more attuned to the meaning of Deut 22:5

All these laws are still in effect, but they are in the heart now. Even the really weird sounding ones have a meaning in the heart.

And of course as post #11 states, this changing of gender roles spills over into sex acts, even with married Christian couples.

 

[notuptome]

If she knew it would offend then yes but you can only know that if you know people.... as far as your suit stament an stuff you are right therr are places where people dont have to dress up for church no one in my church wears a suit not even the pastor an all are welcome no matter how you dress with the exception of extreamly revealing clothing ofcourse i find it better that way because people feel more welcome... now im not codeming any churches where the people dress nice that is fine an great an i love alot of chuches like that but there are some who take it to far i know a girl who got banned from a church hecause she had more than one color hair dye in her hair..

I question the wisdom of being overly casual towards the assembly of believers on the Lords day. We ought to be reverent when gathering together as believers.
I have experienced first hand the pretentious nature of some who claim to know Christ. I was offended as a young child and never darkened the church door for many years.
I do not see anything wrong with expecting and teaching that believers when they come together to worship ought to be respectful of the Lords house and clearly look different from how the world looks when they assemble. But I do not think it is respectful to have a rock band driving the service either...just saying.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[MrMalby]

If my fiance goez somewhere where people are affended she is wearing pants its still not a sin for her to wear pants only to stay there an offend the peop,e..

I agree not all 'taking offence' is reasonable, care should be taken not to make others stumble but the imagined (or real) offence has to be reasonable.

What we would each consider reasonable in this case is different though, Paul talked about 'disputable matters' meaning that some matters had caused serious discussion (like eating meat for instance, or Holy days) but some matters would be so petty as to make it downright silly to take offence, it would be in fact a form of control over others.

MrM

 

[nathan3]

I found this place that does appear to actually be speaking of clothing :


1 Timothy 2:

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.


So here it makes no mention of what the other verse in Duet talks about... But Paul I think is talking, says to dress modestly.

Opposite if modest; I think would be a women that advertises her wares.

 

[crossnote]

It is a Figure of speech :

Deuteronomy 22:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Back in that day, men wore what would amount to a kind of dress , even in some places they still do.



This is a saying that means: a man should not take the place of a women, or a women should not take the place of a man, in a sexual act.

It has nothing to do with cloths .

I agree,a distinction...not a confusion of roles ...is best.

 

[Agricola]

Maybe the nudists have it right all along, I dont see them arguing about whos wearing Trousers or not.

 

[allaboutlove]

Maybe the nudists have it right all along, I dont see them arguing about w hos wearing Trousers or not.

Hahah well that was the original plan