Is Hell a Physical Place?

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NiceneCreed

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Is hell a physical place, where one literally burns for all eternity, or is that just an allegory for spiritual torment? What do you think hell is?


Note: I am just curious what views people have about hell; I am not promoting any particular ideology. Discuss your views freely, but please, do not criticize others and their views (unless their views are way out there).:p



Grace and Peace!
 
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Reformedjason

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I believe that heaven is an actual place. It is spiritual , but still real. On the flip side hell is a real place as well.
 
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Do you believe this?...
Luke 16:23 and 24....And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Looks pretty real and physical to me....
 
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NiceneCreed said:
Is hell a physical place, where one literally burns for all eternity, or is that just an allegory for spiritual torment? What do you think hell is?


Note: I am just curious what views people have about hell; I am not promoting any particular ideology. Discuss your views freely, but please, do not criticize others and their views (unless their views are way out there).:p



Grace and Peace!
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Yes, the bible says Hell is below us. Ephesians 4:9 says Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth. Science proves that fire and brimstone are common there.


There is a false belief that God torments and tortures people in hell. This is false. Satan and his minions love to torment and torture. They are pure evil. In life they served satan, even if it was unwittingly so. So in death they become satan's underlings. God restrains them in that they can only torment those for their actual sins.

Luke 10:15 says Hell is below us. 1Samuel 28:13-15 and Ephesians 4:9, says Hell is below us.
 
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NiceneCreed said:
Is hell a physical place, where one literally burns for all eternity, or is that just an allegory for spiritual torment? What do you think hell is?


Note: I am just curious what views people have about hell; I am not promoting any particular ideology. Discuss your views freely, but please, do not criticize others and their views (unless their views are way out there).:p



Grace and Peace!
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A literal place but not within this material universe.
 
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Nobody really knows do they?
That's the "smoke".

But whatever it is, it's bad enough that men are willing to trade places.
Paul, parable of Lazarus, Moses.
Jesus was the only one allowed to do so, and was given an even better power than simply trading places.
His SACRIFICE of offering Himself in the place of others was ACCEPTED, and it was for the whole world.
He has the keys, He can go in and pull people out.
Salvation is His name.
 
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NiceneCreed said:
Is hell a physical place, where one literally burns for all eternity, or is that just an allegory for spiritual torment? What do you think hell is?


Note: I am just curious what views people have about hell; I am not promoting any particular ideology. Discuss your views freely, but please, do not criticize others and their views (unless their views are way out there).:p



Grace and Peace!
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Plain and simply without God the creator of all, I personally choose to be with God and God ahs chosen to be with all that will believe in Him. Anything else is Hell
 
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Both death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. If death is real then hell must be real as well. God created hell for the devil and his angels not for man. If man goes to hell it is because he would not give up his sin. It is sin that is destroyed in hell forever. God pours out His terrible wrath on sin. Just as we cannot comprehend the glories of heaven we cannot comprehend the severity of Gods wrath.
Rev 20:14 death and hell
Mat 25:14 devil and his angels

For the cause of Christ
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Shiloah

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notuptome said:
Both death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. If death is real then hell must be real as well. God created hell for the devil and his angels not for man. If man goes to hell it is because he would not give up his sin. It is sin that is destroyed in hell forever. God pours out His terrible wrath on sin. Just as we cannot comprehend the glories of heaven we cannot comprehend the severity of Gods wrath.
Rev 20:14 death and hell
Mat 25:14 devil and his angels

For the cause of Christ
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If you go with that reasoning, then hell is destroyed in the lake of fire. Which I guess is what you're saying.... lol. Or maybe you're not... can't tell for sure... :eek:
 
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NiceneCreed

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notuptome said:
Both death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. If death is real then hell must be real as well. God created hell for the devil and his angels not for man. If man goes to hell it is because he would not give up his sin. It is sin that is destroyed in hell forever. God pours out His terrible wrath on sin. Just as we cannot comprehend the glories of heaven we cannot comprehend the severity of Gods wrath.
Rev 20:14 death and hell
Mat 25:14 devil and his angels

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I never asked if hell existed. I asked if one literally burns in hell, as I find it strange that flesh can burn for all eternity. I have, for the majority of my life, viewed hell as a spiritual torment. Is it a place of agony? Yes. But I think all the descriptions of hell were allegories to explain the degree of spiritual torment one will face if they go to hell. Those are just my personal views, but I did want to hear from others to see what they think. Is hell a physical or spiritual place.
Thank you for your reply, and God Bless!

Grace and Peace!
 
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notuptome said:
Both death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. If death is real then hell must be real as well. God created hell for the devil and his angels not for man. If man goes to hell it is because he would not give up his sin. It is sin that is destroyed in hell forever. God pours out His terrible wrath on sin. Just as we cannot comprehend the glories of heaven we cannot comprehend the severity of Gods wrath.
Rev 20:14 death and hell
Mat 25:14 devil and his angels

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I'd have to wonder why the word hell is attached to fire if hell is not hell fire.
 
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amdg said:
A literal place but not within this material universe.
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Aren't we confusing Tartarus, where the angels that sinned are imprisoned, with the hellfire that destroys the earth after the judgment?
 
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NiceneCreed said:
I never asked if hell existed. I asked if one literally burns in hell, as I find it strange that flesh can burn for all eternity. I have, for the majority of my life, viewed hell as a spiritual torment. Is it a place of agony? Yes. But I think all the descriptions of hell were allegories to explain the degree of spiritual torment one will face if they go to hell. Those are just my personal views, but I did want to hear from others to see what they think. Is hell a physical or spiritual place.
Thank you for your reply, and God Bless!

Grace and Peace!
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In my opinion, the whole doctrine of eternal torment is a total misunderstanding of scriptures. I had these same questions and reviewed all the different views until I found one that actually makes sense and I believe fits scriptures in its entirety. I believe there will be a judgement, and after that judgement, all those not written in the lambs book of life together with the devil and his angels will go into the all-consuming fire that will cleanse the whole earth. And they'll burn up. They will be ashes beneath our feet, just like scripture says.
 
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NiceneCreed

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Shiloah said:
Aren't we confusing Tartarus, where the angels that sinned are imprisoned, with the hellfire that destroys the earth after the judgment?
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Physical materials cannot burn forever. This is why I think of hell as a place of eternal spiritual torment. I think when hell was referenced as a place of fire throughout the Bible, fire was simply used as an allegory to explain the extent of spiritual torment. Can you think of a better way to explain what one might suffer in hell spiritually, other than using fire as an example? Anyway, these are my personal opinions, and I know I may be wrong about hell, but I am certain I will never find out one way or another; by the grace of Christ! Thank you, and God Bless!
 
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In my opinion, the whole doctrine of eternal torment is a total misunderstanding of scriptures. I had these same questions and reviewed all the different views until I found one that actually makes sense and I believe fits scriptures in its entirety. I believe there will be a judgement, and after that judgement, all those not written in the lambs book of life together with the devil and his angels will go into the all-consuming fire that will cleanse the whole earth. And they'll burn up. They will be ashes beneath our feet, just like scripture says.
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I am happy to hear you finally found a view that suits your liking. Yet I am not so certain if the Bible teaches annihilationism, which it sounds like you are suggesting. To the contrary, many believe complete destruction of an individual would go against God's very nature.
 
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Cobus said:
Do you believe this?...
Luke 16:23 and 24....And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Looks pretty real and physical to me....
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correct translation of Hell in this passage is hades...There is a difference. Hades is a term for where the dead go, a state, not a place. Hell (geenna) is a term for a place of everlasting torment and punishment for those that reject God.
 
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Bookends said:
correct translation of Hell in this passage is hades...There is a difference. Hades is a term for where the dead go, a state, not a place. Hell (geenna) is a term for a place of everlasting torment and punishment for those that reject God.
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Gehenna was a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. The bodies of criminals, dead animals, and garbage were thrown in there. Fires continually burned there because there was always things there to burn. The worm was said by Jesus to never die, because there were always worms there eating on the dead bodies and garbage. Those worms were not immortal. When Jesus referred to Gehenna, He was using it as an example of what happens to sinners. They just go into the fire and are burned. The result is everlasting. The fire burns that carcass until it's burned up.
 
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NiceneCreed said:
I am happy to hear you finally found a view that suits your liking. Yet I am not so certain if the Bible teaches annihilationism, which it sounds like you are suggesting. To the contrary, many believe complete destruction of an individual would go against God's very nature.
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I like it better because it's not a false teaching. It's the truth. I myself am not worried about going to hell. I'm saved by grace. And yeah, eternal torture would go against God's nature because He just, compassionate, and true. No fault can be found in Him.
 
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I think that hell and heaven have both an intermediate state (now), not a place where you experience physical whereness but a state of awareness (see Luke 16:19-31). After the second coming Jesus specifically stays that ALL will arise from the grave, some to eternal condemnation and some to everlasting life. After the resurrection our bodies will be restore along with the heavens and earth, so I think both places will also have a physical reality.

John 5:28-29

[SUP]28 [/SUP]Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice [SUP]29 [/SUP]and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
 
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