Why do people believe in Science when the bible is the truth?

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The bible shows that wind actually has weight, it is a shame that people couldn’t believe the bible at first and had to rely on Science. The bible stated the wind has weight in the book of job chapter 28
“To establish a weight for the wind,
And apportion the waters by measure.”
– Job 28:25
The wind having weight in science wasn’t proven until 300 years ago or so, yet the bible proved it before. Without getting into detail and not to trust man (it is a curse to trust man Jeremiah 17:5), It is claimed that Evangelista Torricelli was the person that to discover that the air has weight. The bible was the first to say that Wind has weight, then science 300 years ago Science proved it.
 

Radius

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Three words: lack of faith.
 
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The bible shows that wind actually has weight, it is a shame that people couldn’t believe the bible at first and had to rely on Science. The bible stated the wind has weight in the book of job chapter 28
“To establish a weight for the wind,
And apportion the waters by measure.”
– Job 28:25
The wind having weight in science wasn’t proven until 300 years ago or so, yet the bible proved it before. Without getting into detail and not to trust man (it is a curse to trust man Jeremiah 17:5), It is claimed that Evangelista Torricelli was the person that to discover that the air has weight. The bible was the first to say that Wind has weight, then science 300 years ago Science proved it.
"He sitteth upon the circle of the earth." (Isaiah 40:22) The Bible said the earth was round centuries before man found out.

"He hangeth the earth on nothing." ( Job 26:7) This scientific fact is from the oldest Book in the Bible, Job.

"By Him all things consist." (Colossians 1:7) The word "consist" means 'hold together'. The mystery of the atom, that scientists do not understand is this: Why doesn't the atom fly apart? Scientific knowledge says it should, but it doesn't. Some scientists are wondering what puzzling power, completely unknown to them, is holding it together. The Bible says that Mysterious power is the Creator Himself!
 
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"He sitteth upon the circle of the earth." (Isaiah 40:22) The Bible said the earth was round centuries before man found out.

"He hangeth the earth on nothing." ( Job 26:7) This scientific fact is from the oldest Book in the Bible, Job.

"By Him all things consist." (Colossians 1:7) The word "consist" means 'hold together'. The mystery of the atom, that scientists do not understand is this: Why doesn't the atom fly apart? Scientific knowledge says it should, but it doesn't. Some scientists are wondering what puzzling power, completely unknown to them, is holding it together. The Bible says that Mysterious power is the Creator Himself!
Everyone is wise in retrospect, the fact you can skim through verses and attempt to make them fit modern scientific theories is not actually scientific or rational. Now let us take your first verse and look at it and compare it to how science deduces facts. Firstly the earth is not a circle. A circle is a 2-D object, it is not even a sphere. Those words are not interchangable either. Considering the earth is not even a sphere it is an oblate spheroid, I would say you are streching the facts so thin to try and cover the bible. Now does the bible present data and graphs and tests to support its circle claim? No it doesn't it just asserts it with no evidence, that is not science. Science makes an observation, looks for evidence to support the hypothesis, they conduct tests and then make predictions. They do not assert they are right and provide no evidence.
 

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"He sitteth upon the circle of the earth." (Isaiah 40:22) The Bible said the earth was round centuries before man found out.
During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained that the Earth was round, not flat. The myth that people thought the Earth was flat was started in the 1940s by the Members of the Historical Association.
 
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a sphere is a circle pretty much in a 3d sense. Just because satalitie imagery says the earth looks like a sphere, dosent mean it can be called a circle. We don't know where heaven is it could be so far away that it looks like a circle to god? The earth is also god's footstool
 

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Everyone is wise in retrospect, They do not assert they are right and provide no evidence.
Really? How many times has science been revised based on it's own observations?
It is strongly asserted that evolution is science when it is nothing of the sort. Science cannot prove evolution nor can it prove electricity. Theories abound but proof is strangely missing.
At one point in our history the bible was known as the queen of the sciences. A more noble time when men knew honor and integrity.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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why do you guys want to trust men anyways? Its a curse actually
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the Lord. (Jeremiah 17:5)
 
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agreed!
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.[SUP]3 [/SUP]By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. (Faith 11:1-3)
 
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Everyone is wise in retrospect, the fact you can skim through verses and attempt to make them fit modern scientific theories is not actually scientific or rational. Now let us take your first verse and look at it and compare it to how science deduces facts. Firstly the earth is not a circle. A circle is a 2-D object, it is not even a sphere. Those words are not interchangable either. Considering the earth is not even a sphere it is an oblate spheroid, I would say you are streching the facts so thin to try and cover the bible. Now does the bible present data and graphs and tests to support its circle claim? No it doesn't it just asserts it with no evidence, that is not science. Science makes an observation, looks for evidence to support the hypothesis, they conduct tests and then make predictions. They do not assert they are right and provide no evidence.
I hear you.. Gods Bible says "He sitteth upon the circle of the earth." And you,, the finite creation says,,,"Firstly the earth is not a circle..it is not even a sphere."


Recap: God says He sits upon the circle of the earth,,, and you say Both, God & His Bible are wrong.

Got it!
 
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I hear you.. Gods Bible says "He sitteth upon the circle of the earth." And you,, the finite creation says,,,"Firstly the earth is not a circle..it is not even a sphere."


Recap: God says He sits upon the circle of the earth,,, and you say Both, God & His Bible are wrong.

Got it!
what you are doing is trusting man. Like I said above it is a curse to trust in man(Jeremiah 17:5)
what matters is trusting the bible.
 
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Science is trying to explain the physical without any knowledge of the spiritual part of the physical. The bible often uses how the physical works to illustrate the spiritual from God’s perspective with His complete knowledge of how the physical works. Sometimes we misunderstand what God is saying and science explaining the physical better makes it clearer.

In ancient times, people didn’t read the scriptures Danny gave about the earth being a circle, they read in Isaiah about the four corners, so they said the earth was square.

Isa 11:12 He will raise a signal for the nations, and will assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

When it was discovered that It was round this scripture was made clearer.

The field of mental health also makes God’s instructions much clearer. They explain what dwelling on negative thoughts, or living with hate does to us in physical terms. They go on and on about how the meditation the psalms speak of does wonders for mental health.

It seems to me that if we say science knows best it leads us to being quite dumb about the world, but we can use the things that science finds to teach us to understand God’s word better.
 
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Tefillin (also called phylacteries) are two small leather boxes that contain verses from the Torah. They are worn on the head and on one arm and are held in place by leather straps. Observant men and boys who have had their Bar Mitzvah usually wear tefillin during the morning prayer services. Women do not usually wear tefillin, though this practice is changing.
What Are Tefillin - Tefillin in Judaism - Phylacteries in Jewish Prayer

[h=1][/h]Deuteronomy 6
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 5 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.
 

allaboutlove

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Science is an important part of life an theres no reason to distinguse between God an science like you can only have one an not the other.
 

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They have no faith in the first place, giving themselves all credit of wisdom and knowledge never having sought these from outside, thinking themselves all capable of resolving all issues of the universe with science. What is the difference between an idol made by a man, and an idea conjured or thought by `man if both be revered as truth? The following is from Isaiah describing idols, things made by men.



Isa 44:9
They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

Isa 44:10
Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?

Isa 44:11
Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together.

Isa 44:12
The smith with the tongs both worketh in the coals, and fashioneth it with hammers, and worketh it with the strength of his arms: yea, he is hungry, and his strength faileth: he drinketh no water, and is faint.

Isa 44:13
The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.

Isa 44:14
He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.

Isa 44:15
Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.

Isa 44:16
He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire:

Isa 44:17
And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.

Isa 44:18
They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

Isa 44:19
And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?

To me there is no difference between making an idol and worshiping it or a man forming an idea and honoring it instead of our Father.
 

Bookends

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Science properly interpreted, along with God's Word, should always lead us the same conclusions.

19 The heavens declare the glory of God;
And the firmament shows His handiwork.
[SUP]2[/SUP]Day unto day utters speech,
And night unto night reveals knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]There is no speech nor language
Where their voice is not heard.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Their line[SUP][/SUP] has gone out through all the earth,
And their words to the end of the world.


In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Its rising is from one end of heaven,
And its circuit to the other end;
And there is nothing hidden from its heat.


[SUP]7 [/SUP]The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Moreover by them Your servant is warned,
And in keeping them there is great reward.


[SUP]12 [/SUP]Who can understand his errors?
Cleanse me from secret faults.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins;
Let them not have dominion over me.
Then I shall be blameless,
And I shall be innocent of great transgression.


[SUP]14 [/SUP]Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
Be acceptable in Your sight,
O Lord, my strength and my Redeemer.




Romans 1:20
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

God has giving special revelation (His Word) and general revelation (the book of nature), and it's for kings to search out a matter (Proverbs 25:2, It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter). How many times did Job answer his critics and accusers by saying generally, "look to nature/creation" for your answer?
 
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DannyC

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Really? How many times has science been revised based on it's own observations?
It is strongly asserted that evolution is science when it is nothing of the sort. Science cannot prove evolution nor can it prove electricity. Theories abound but proof is strangely missing.
At one point in our history the bible was known as the queen of the sciences. A more noble time when men knew honor and integrity.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Science revises its findings because it is not dogmatic nor is it ignorant or dishones if contradictory evidence presents itself. Evolution is part of Biology, of course it is science, entire courses are dedicated to the theory. Evolutionary biology itself is an entire course and profession, to claim it is 'not science' is just absurd, you mean to say it contradicts biblical narrative therefore you dismiss it as wrong. Science proves evolution through predictions experiments and observations.
 
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God has given some the ability to go into depth. Some dig toward Him and some digs around Him, but everything leads us to God.


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