Are Aliens Real? My True Story Part 2

[MaggieMye]

Tell me, did Daniel fight the battle or was it the angel? Daniel was probably unawares of this battle ever taking place. Daniel 9, 10 and 11
hehe yes Maggie thanks for that, portals are in scripture. But are they the same meaning as they are used today? Well of course! Why wouldn't they? God changes not! I mean I've heard things about spiritual portals or something turning clockwise or anti clockwise and depending upon which way they turn, determines whether they are from God or from satan. I haven't heard about this. But here's the deal. GOD is the creater of all. It is satan that steals and imitates the kingdom of Heaven, not the other way around. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. The use of portals in scripture, is simply a door or opening to heaven. The way the new agers use spiritual portals, seems different, and eastern religions too. This is true. But their doors do not open into heaven. I don't think I'd want to go through their doors….especially not knowing where it leads to!
Some elements of Christianity have borrowed these concepts from the new agers, and believe them to be fact , where the bible speaks nothing about it. THIS IS WRONG!! It is the new agers that have stolen from Christianity and the Bible!! Satan imitates!
This knowledge comes from satan in the first place Maggie, not from God No, it comes from the Tree of knowledge rather than the tree of Life. I am no expert but I believe God wants us to listen to the Spirit and use discernment of spirits how can you DISCERN an evil spirit if you can not recognize it by how it acts?? You can't! and the Word of God. But if there is scripture where any of the apostles or christians consulted Simon the sorcerer or anyone else, to learn of their ways and the nature of the spiritual realm and how it "works", please quote the verses. I know of only Acts 19:18 "18Many also of those who had believed kept coming, confessing and disclosing their practices. Here is evidence of those formerly in the occult TELLING WHAT THEY DID OR HAD DONE. Scripture tells us to confess our sins one to another. This is a commandment from God. Who are any of us to say that the info that comes forth cannot be used AGAINST our adversary? If God uses the confessions of those formerly in sin to alert us to the devils wiles and devices, it IS HIM allowing it. If we were not to know any of the workings…the wiles of the devil, we would not have access to it at all. It would be written that learning of these things is evil and sin, but that is not the case. Scripture does tells us that our knowledge of HIIM should be MORE than that of the devil.
Personally, I never read anything on deliverance or demons unless I've first read several chapters in the Word of God.
Maggie

 

[MahogonySnail]

THIS IS WRONG!! It is the new agers that have stolen from Christianity and the Bible!! Satan imitates!

Why is it when I type in "watcher spirit" in google, it does not bring me to a Christian website or the bible, but to shamanism, psychic channelling, astral projection, spirit realms etc?

This knowledge comes from satan in the first place Maggie, not from God No, it comes from the Tree of knowledge rather than the tree of Life.

Exactly my point, the tree of knowledge of evil, acquired whilst they were living for satan.

I am no expert but I believe God wants us to listen to the Spirit and use discernment of spirits how can you DISCERN an evil spirit if you can not recognize it by how it acts?? You can't!

In prayer deliverance ministry the Holy Spirit can reveal the type and nature of the spirit if there is one in the first place.

and the Word of God. But if there is scripture where any of the apostles or christians consulted Simon the sorcerer or anyone else, to learn of their ways and the nature of the spiritual realm and how it "works", please quote the verses. I know of only Acts 19:18 "18Many also of those who had believed kept coming, confessing and disclosing their practices.

Thats true they confessed their evil deeds and disclosed what they were. But does that mean the apostles, took note of these things, and wrote a book calling it Deliverance Ministry Manual 101 by the apostle Paul? No.

Here is evidence of those formerly in the occult TELLING WHAT THEY DID OR HAD DONE. Scripture tells us to confess our sins one to another. This is a commandment from God. Who are any of us to say that the info that comes forth cannot be used AGAINST our adversary?

If God uses the confessions of those formerly in sin to alert us to the devils wiles and devices, it IS HIM allowing it.

Who are any of us to say that the info that comes forth cannot be used AGAINST our adversary?

Well, as I think I said before, you don't know if it is reliable or accurate, and it comes from people's knowledge that they were taught by satan, not by God. You stated that watcher spirits live in owls or something like that. How do you know? It could be wrong. They may not even exist. It could merely be superstition. The occult is 95% lies and 5% spiritual reality. I don't think there's a demon behind every corner, and if there is, it's probably not our business to know. Let the demons live in the birds if they want to. I don't recall Jesus casting out any demons from any animals in the bible, but rather, permitting them to live in animals (eg pigs) rather than humans. Jesus cast out the devils in the people they were afflicting, not went off fighting the demons in the trees, if there were any.

If we were not to know any of the workings…the wiles of the devil, we would not have access to it at all. It would be written that learning of these things is evil and sin, but that is not the case. Scripture does tells us that our knowledge of HIIM should be MORE than that of the devil.

I personally dont' think we need to know about the dark side to this detail, I mean, there is no need to have a 100 page deliverance manual on every kind of satanic evil spirit.

 

[worldlover]

Whether aliens are real or not, I wouldn't be surprised if one day we found out they really exist and where they live. I'd been thinking of it since i was 10 about the use of the planets around us and the alien's existence why not if that's the purpose of the other planets that we haven't discovered yet. One day God will erase our doubts about this matter and what's most important is that we're always prepared in anything that will happen.

 

[worldlover]

man is that really true?i gotta tell you it's really terrifying but i know they won't harm us if ever they're true as long as we're with GOD!^_^

 

[MaggieMye]

Why is it when I type in "watcher spirit" in google, it does not bring me to a Christian website or the bible, but to shamanism, psychic channelling, astral projection, spirit realms etc? Well, because they are demonic! What did you expect?
Exactly my point, the tree of knowledge of evil, acquired whilst they were living for satan. Let's not forget that the tree of knowledge is that of BOTH GOOD and evil: Genesis 2:17v "but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die." It is from this tree that we get GOOD knowledge too! Knowledge, in and of itself, is neither good nor bad. It is JUST information. As God's word says, we are to desire more knowledge "of good" than "of bad", because if we focus on the knowledge of the bad…to much knowledge of demons and what they are doing (unless it is affecting us personally) usually has a person in relationship with them as opposed to overcoming them-- because they are such liars and so sneaky.
In prayer deliverance ministry the Holy Spirit can reveal the type and nature of the spirit if there is one in the first place. This is true. But God does not want us to be ignorant either. At least 5 times in scripture, He tells us that His people suffer for LACK of knowledge…and He does not specify good or bad. I'm thinking it's both.
Maggie
Why is it when I type in "watcher spirit" in google, it does not bring me to a Christian website or the bible, but to shamanism, psychic channelling, astral projection, spirit realms etc? Well, because they are demonic! What did you expect?
Exactly my point, the tree of knowledge of evil, acquired whilst they were living for satan. Let's not forget that the tree of knowledge is that of BOTH GOOD and evil: Genesis 2:17v "but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die." It is from this tree that we get GOOD knowledge too! Knowledge, in and of itself, is neither good nor bad. It is JUST information. As God's word says, we are to desire more knowledge "of good" than "of bad", because if we focus on the knowledge of the bad…to much knowledge of demons and what they are doing (unless it is affecting us personally) usually has a person in relationship with them as opposed to overcoming them-- because they are such liars and so sneaky.
In prayer deliverance ministry the Holy Spirit can reveal the type and nature of the spirit if there is one in the first place. This is true. But God does not want us to be ignorant either. At least 5 times in scripture, He tells us that His people suffer for LACK of knowledge…and He does not specify good or bad. I'm thinking it's both.
Maggie

 

[MahogonySnail]

Why is it when I type in "watcher spirit" in google, it does not bring me to a Christian website or the bible, but to shamanism, psychic channelling, astral projection, spirit realms etc? Well, because they are demonic! What did you expect?

hehe, and therefore... these things are not learnt from the bible or God, but from satan are they not?

Exactly my point, the tree of knowledge of evil, acquired whilst they were living for satan. Let's not forget that the tree of knowledge is that of BOTH GOOD and evil: Genesis 2:17v "but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die." It is from this tree that we get GOOD knowledge too! Knowledge, in and of itself, is neither good nor bad. It is JUST information. As God's word says, we are to desire more knowledge "of good" than "of bad", because if we focus on the knowledge of the bad…to much knowledge of demons and what they are doing (unless it is affecting us personally) usually has a person in relationship with them as opposed to overcoming them-- because they are such liars and so sneaky.

But the part "for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die". ? The acquisition or "eating" of such knowledge, whether good or evil, is not just information, but is death. "thou shalt not eat of it".

In prayer deliverance ministry the Holy Spirit can reveal the type and nature of the spirit if there is one in the first place. This is true. But God does not want us to be ignorant either. At least 5 times in scripture, He tells us that His people suffer for LACK of knowledge…and He does not specify good or bad. I'm thinking it's both.

Well actually it does specify in the context of the verses.

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

It means they have lack of knowledge of God, His law, His providence, his holy nature, hatred of sin and power to punish it. (Wesley's notes on the bible). They didn't lack because of lack of knowledge of satan, they had lack of knowledge of God.

 

[MaggieMye]

Pam
But the part "for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die". ? The acquisition or "eating" of such knowledge, whether good or evil, is not just information, but is death. "thou shalt not eat of it". It is the eating of the FRUIT of the knowledge, not the knowledge itself. Look closely: but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die. Knowledge produces fruit that can be partaken of…that being the participating in what the knowledge is about…witchcraft, divination, etc. Simply knowing about it is not sin, but the participating in the activity is. The INVOLVEMENT in what the knowledge is about is the FRUIT.

 

[MahogonySnail]

'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'

You shall not eat, nor even touch it.

Simply knowing about it is not sin, but the participating in the activity is.

Sure, I don't see a problem simply knowing about it, but I do think it is wrong to accept and use this knowledge of the spiritual realm borrowed from satan, as if it is established fact.

 

[doubleedge]

Take heart brethren! The book of Ezekiel chapter 1 speaks of "living" beings from the sky. They most certainly are real. These beings were plastered all over the walls in Egypt. Why do U think Mosses was ordered to lead the blind sheep of Israel/ Ysrael. Here's the kicker - most of them are what we call fallen angels today... A.K.A. anunaki, nephilim, reptilian shapeshifters (2 Corinthians 11:14)... etc. These are the luciferian aliens responsible for sowing the tares amongst the wheat, who are, in turn, responsible for the NWO one world government. These "tares" are evil and will stop at NOTHING for global domination. They have engineered & influenced every major conflict this world has ever known since the time of Nebuchadnezzar & babylon. My heart tells me that they are not all malevolent, but what do I know???

 

[doubleedge]

*****Moses

 

[doubleedge]

That passage from Hosea 4:6 was right on the money... or right on the... dare I say... ceasar!!!

 

[doubleedge]

Hebrews 9:27 says death has been appointed to EVERYONE! Only when free of all influence can anything last forever.

 

[doubleedge]

just stop me if U think I'm wrong bros! I've not come to deceive, or mislead or anything like that. I'm here to keep the vigil (1 Thessalonians 5)

 

[MahogonySnail]

Take heart brethren! The book of Ezekiel chapter 1 speaks of "living" beings from the sky. They most certainly are real. These beings were plastered all over the walls in Egypt. Why do U think Mosses was ordered to lead the blind sheep of Israel/ Ysrael. Here's the kicker - most of them are what we call fallen angels today... A.K.A. anunaki, nephilim, reptilian shapeshifters (2 Corinthians 11:14)... etc. These are the luciferian aliens responsible for sowing the tares amongst the wheat, who are, in turn, responsible for the NWO one world government. These "tares" are evil and will stop at NOTHING for global domination. They have engineered & influenced every major conflict this world has ever known since the time of Nebuchadnezzar & babylon. My heart tells me that they are not all malevolent, but what do I know???

That is called conspiracy theory. Most of it is unproven allegations or mythical fantasy stories in my opinion, although it is entertaining to read. I take it with a grain of salt.

 

[doubleedge]

my response was to the christiancanadian fellow. Reality is what U believe it is. By little faith, say the size of a mustard seed, one can move mountains. How easy is it then to know the truth. The word of God is of no private interpretation. Yah defines for us what life is in its many forms... while the (d)evil tries to destroy it. If people would only remember that The Word of God is older than they are, than the wisdom of God would not be foolishness to man, for the wisdom of man is foolishness to God (1 Corinthians 1:19 - 31)

 

[doubleedge]

P.S. - do Ur own research!!!

 

[MaggieMye]

Sure, I don't see a problem simply knowing about it, but I do think it is wrong to accept and use this knowledge of the spiritual realm borrowed from satan, as if it is established fact. Right, because that would be EATING of it's FRUIT.

Take heart brethren! The book of Ezekiel chapter 1 speaks of "living" beings from the sky. They most certainly are real. These beings were plastered all over the walls in Egypt. Why do U think Mosses was ordered to lead the blind sheep of Israel/ Ysrael. Here's the kicker - most of them are what we call fallen angels today... A.K.A. anunaki, nephilim, reptilian shapeshifters (2 Corinthians 11:14)... etc. These are the luciferian aliens responsible for sowing the tares amongst the wheat, who are, in turn, responsible for the NWO one world government. These "tares" are evil and will stop at NOTHING for global domination. They have engineered & influenced every major conflict this world has ever known since the time of Nebuchadnezzar & babylon. My heart tells me that they are not all malevolent, but what do I know??? You know? There are so many new thread possibilities in this post that I can't address them here. But I will say this:
The living beings in Ezek 1, if you read to the end of the chapte,r are " This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake. It was hardly anything evil!
Maggie

 

[doubleedge]

If U believe The word of God, than it may interst U to check out some vids on a site called remnantofgod.org! It's a site that tracks Bible prophecies. I found it intersting.

 

[doubleedge]

Hebrews 9:27 - The fruit was eaten in the beginning. That is why The Messiah came for us. None can escape the first death, & none can escape the judgement! WE who are saved will be judged by our works and not our sins.

 

[worldlover]

Sure, I don't see a problem simply knowing about it, but I do think it is wrong to accept and use this knowledge of the spiritual realm borrowed from satan, as if it is established fact. Right, because that would be EATING of it's FRUIT.

Take heart brethren! The book of Ezekiel chapter 1 speaks of "living" beings from the sky. They most certainly are real. These beings were plastered all over the walls in Egypt. Why do U think Mosses was ordered to lead the blind sheep of Israel/ Ysrael. Here's the kicker - most of them are what we call fallen angels today... A.K.A. anunaki, nephilim, reptilian shapeshifters (2 Corinthians 11:14)... etc. These are the luciferian aliens responsible for sowing the tares amongst the wheat, who are, in turn, responsible for the NWO one world government. These "tares" are evil and will stop at NOTHING for global domination. They have engineered & influenced every major conflict this world has ever known since the time of Nebuchadnezzar & babylon. My heart tells me that they are not all malevolent, but what do I know??? You know? There are so many new thread possibilities in this post that I can't address them here. But I will say this:
The living beings in Ezek 1, if you read to the end of the chapte,r are " This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake. It was hardly anything evil!
Maggie

If i'm not mistaken, anunakis were the ones who prophesized that the earth will end in 2012 and they're cults right?