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I think you will enjoy this deeper study into some scriptures about it. It will help you learn about the Term sons of God better.
THE RAIN / "THE SONS OF GOD" IN GENESIS 6:2,4.
This page, below, helps with scripture about their offsping a bit.
THE RAIN / THE NEPHILIM, OR "GIANTS" OF GENESIS 6, ETC.
THE RAIN / "THE SONS OF GOD" IN GENESIS 6:2,4.
This page, below, helps with scripture about their offsping a bit.
THE RAIN / THE NEPHILIM, OR "GIANTS" OF GENESIS 6, ETC.
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I don't think there is such a thing as a female angel. I believe they are all males based on the bible, the book of enoch....the book of giants......They are always referred to as being male when gender is a topic. This doesn't mean there aren't any, I just don't see a reason to believe that there are
Jesus said that in the resurrection, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like the angels of God in heaven.
That doesn't disprove the fallen angel theory about the Nephelim, but at least in heaven the angels don't marry. Assuming that interpretation is correct-- and it seems to fit considering the flow of argument in Jude and II Peter 2--I don't know that angels could do these things because they are so similar to us. What if they were able to change their form?
That doesn't disprove the fallen angel theory about the Nephelim, but at least in heaven the angels don't marry. Assuming that interpretation is correct-- and it seems to fit considering the flow of argument in Jude and II Peter 2--I don't know that angels could do these things because they are so similar to us. What if they were able to change their form?
Zechariah 5
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Here is a lead disc lifted up, and this is a woman sitting inside the basket”; [SUP]8 [/SUP]then he said, “This is Wickedness!” And he thrust her down into the basket, and threw the lead cover over its mouth. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Then I raised my eyes and looked, and there were two women, coming with the wind in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven.
(NKJV)
It doesn't call them 'angels' and they appeared in a vision, but here are some winged females in scripture.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Here is a lead disc lifted up, and this is a woman sitting inside the basket”; [SUP]8 [/SUP]then he said, “This is Wickedness!” And he thrust her down into the basket, and threw the lead cover over its mouth. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Then I raised my eyes and looked, and there were two women, coming with the wind in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven.
(NKJV)
It doesn't call them 'angels' and they appeared in a vision, but here are some winged females in scripture.
I mentioned the angels with stork wings. Whether such creatures exist or whether they are just a part of a vision is another issue to be discussed. There is no mention of creatures called 'angels' having wings. (Cherubim and Seraphim are a different matter.) We might speculate that for man, God made a woman, a female, but for the angel 'species'-- if that is an appropriate term-- there may not be a female. It could be that angels have no species, if they do not reproduce after their kind like earth creatures do. It is conceivable that reproduction was first created on the earth and that each angel is a separate original creation.
I realize there is a lot of speculation here. We just don't know.
I realize there is a lot of speculation here. We just don't know.
There is no scripture saying that angels are like us, they are separate. They live in a different dimension than we do, and we almost never see into that dimension. God uses them in several different ways, usually as messengers. Except for the fallen angels, they operate completely within God's world as opposed to humans who choose whether they want to live that way or not.
Perhaps humans who are able to make contact with them, as is reported several times in the bible, have seen them with wings or as men, but in reality their being is in a completely different form.
I have made contact with them twice in my life, and both times they did not like my being able to comprehend they were there. One time was during a birth and another was during a death, and their work had to do with the spirit of these people both times but I could not understand what they were doing because I am human. At death, they seemed to be helping the spirit make the transition to the new life. At the birth they made the decision that the baby should not live based on the life it was going to and the condition of the body the spirit was to live in. When I asked for special permission for the baby's life I was told it wasn't their decision to make for if they followed natural law the baby was not to live but they would ask permission to let the baby live. That permission was granted, the baby lived but died when she was 21.
I have checked over scripture having to do with angels. Scripture does not say this is how they are and work, but nothing that happened disagrees with what we are told.
Perhaps humans who are able to make contact with them, as is reported several times in the bible, have seen them with wings or as men, but in reality their being is in a completely different form.
I have made contact with them twice in my life, and both times they did not like my being able to comprehend they were there. One time was during a birth and another was during a death, and their work had to do with the spirit of these people both times but I could not understand what they were doing because I am human. At death, they seemed to be helping the spirit make the transition to the new life. At the birth they made the decision that the baby should not live based on the life it was going to and the condition of the body the spirit was to live in. When I asked for special permission for the baby's life I was told it wasn't their decision to make for if they followed natural law the baby was not to live but they would ask permission to let the baby live. That permission was granted, the baby lived but died when she was 21.
I have checked over scripture having to do with angels. Scripture does not say this is how they are and work, but nothing that happened disagrees with what we are told.
You mean me? God or people who live within God's ways NEVER kill. If those angel would have taken the spirit of this baby back, instead of having it live in this body, it would not have been even remotely related to killing. God saves and gives life. I said that much of what I saw and heard was not listed in scripture. I said that I didn't find anything in scripture that said what I perceived was not so. I didn't even say my perception was absolutely correct. I just reported what I saw and understood. So you report you don't believe in dimensions. I do. It seems clear to me there is a spiritual dimension and I don't understand a lot of that. Scientist say there are other dimensions they can prove that our senses aren't aware of.
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I disagree with that....remember when the profit was surrounded by the army and his servant said something along the lines of "What are we going to do?" and the prophet said "There are more with us than they have brought with them" then he said "I pray Lord that his eyes be opened"....and all of a sudden the servant see's the company of angels and fiery chariots around them.
They were there before he seen them, therefore their place must have been in a realm we aren't able to perceive under normal circumstances. That meets the definition of different dimension.
They were there before he seen them, therefore their place must have been in a realm we aren't able to perceive under normal circumstances. That meets the definition of different dimension.
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Well. There is no scripture to support that. Remember Christ said "there is no giving and taking in marriage " Every time a angel appeared they were young men. I don't know the order of things in heaven. But, there is a mass there to the angle,s because they were about to impregnate women in Genesis 6: .
But there is not enough evidence for women being there. Women, have a womb, that allow men, and women, to be born . There is no one being born into heaven. Otherwise scriptures would have said so at some point. There is just no evidence for the female body in heaven .
But lets not get into hypothetical thoughts. Lets stick to what is written.
Check out those links I gave you. They have scripture that will be good to talk about .
But there is not enough evidence for women being there. Women, have a womb, that allow men, and women, to be born . There is no one being born into heaven. Otherwise scriptures would have said so at some point. There is just no evidence for the female body in heaven .
But lets not get into hypothetical thoughts. Lets stick to what is written.
Check out those links I gave you. They have scripture that will be good to talk about .
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There is very little scripture that has been presented to support the majority comments made. I think people tend to forget that the main purpose for us having genitals is for the purpose of reproduction. God told MAN to multiply. Not angels. The bible does not once indicate angels have a specific gender. They are spiritual beings.
Anything that people may have experienced with "angels" to where the bible doesn't mention it needs to be considered a personal experience and not one that everyone should believe and live by. Can Satan not appear as an angel of light? Many who feel they have seen angels may not be seeing something Heavenly at all.
Anything that people may have experienced with "angels" to where the bible doesn't mention it needs to be considered a personal experience and not one that everyone should believe and live by. Can Satan not appear as an angel of light? Many who feel they have seen angels may not be seeing something Heavenly at all.
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Daniel 9:21
"Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. "
Gabriel is one of the few angels we actually know the name of. El at the end of any name also seems to suggest masculinity. We also know Michael, who is an Archangel, is male.......
Daniel 10:13
"But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia."
All the suggestions I've ever seen (I also look at the book of Enoch as a secondary source)......indicate always gender specific male.....except for the verse presidente posted above, I have never seen anything that suggests female or gender neutrality.
"Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. "
Gabriel is one of the few angels we actually know the name of. El at the end of any name also seems to suggest masculinity. We also know Michael, who is an Archangel, is male.......
Daniel 10:13
"But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia."
All the suggestions I've ever seen (I also look at the book of Enoch as a secondary source)......indicate always gender specific male.....except for the verse presidente posted above, I have never seen anything that suggests female or gender neutrality.