Prophets, real or false

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A prophet marches to a different drum. A true prophet is not concerned with his image, nor how well he is received. It is God who holds people accountable for receiving the messenger and the message. The prophet's single focus is on speaking and writing the message that God has given him to deliver.​

The American Heritage Dictionary defines the word "official" as; "1. Of or relating to an office or a post of authority. 2. Authorized by a proper authority; authoritative. 3. Holding office or serving in a public capacity." There is a great stir in some Christian circles regarding the supposed restoration of the "Office" of Prophet back to the church. (We use the word "office" in quotes because it is not found in the original text of the New Testament referring to ministry gifts.) This has resulted in forum after forum dedicated to the recovery of this office. There is teaching on the subject at gatherings and prophetic conferences throughout the world, which bring the would-be prophets out in droves. Many are sincere and seeking God's will in their lives, but there are many that are seeking recognition and approval by the so-called "official" or "recognized" prophets.
If you look at the prophets in the scriptures, you will realize that the ambition to be accepted or approved of by men is alien to the calling of a true prophet. Acceptance and approval by the authorities of their day abounded only for false prophets. The most vivid case is the court of Ahab and Jezebel. They had 850 false prophets and persecuted God's true prophets including Elijah.
There are many who seek their own glory in prophetic circles today, speaking words that satisfy itching ears. There seems to be a "good ol' boys' club" these prophets use to promote each other. Consider Jesus' words:
"If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. . .Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things that you may be saved." (John 5:31,34)​
"He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him." (John 7:18)​

A prophet marches to a different drum. A true prophet is not concerned with his image, nor how well he is received. It is God who holds people accountable for receiving the messenger and the message. The prophet's single focus is on speaking and writing the message that God has given him to deliver. God puts these men through whatever is necessary to harden them to the inevitable opposition that they must face. God has one desire for them, that they speak His word to those in error and in trouble without changing a word of it. They must never alter His words in order to be received and accepted by the hearer. They must never use their gift for worldly and financial gain. Remember what happened to Gehazi? Now regarding the idea of the "office" of prophet or the "official prophet." True prophets were not found lounging in king's courts. They did not hang out with the aristocracy. If they did end up before a king, they were usually either killed or imprisoned. Their ears were not scanning the crowds for cheers of approval, adjusting their delivery until they got it. No, their ears were directed toward heaven. They sought the approval of God, not man. These men were so regularly rejected that Jesus asked the Pharisees, "What one of the prophets did your forefathers not kill?" It seems that few living prophets were approved. Generally only dead prophets were acceptable and their tombs were decorated.
You cannot determine if a person is speaking the truth by whether the message is in line with the consensus of popular thought. Most often those who come speaking the truth are out of sync with what is currently held dear by the majority. This is true in the world and in many cases, it is true in today's Church. Be prepared to go cross-grain to many beliefs that are currently being taught in Christian circles if you want to be God's prophet. As Soren Kierkegaard observed in his book Purity of Heart:
For many fools do not make a wise man, and the crowd is doubtful recommendation for the cause. Yes, the larger the crowd, the more probable that that which it praises is folly, and the more improbable that it is any truth, and the most improbable of all that it is any eternal truth.​
There is a big difference between a functional prophet and an official prophet. Somewhere along the way from the early church until now we have been sold the bill of goods that only those that are approved by the ecclesiastical structures of men are "official." They are AAA approved, guaranteed to be predictable, manageable and unlikely to embarrass everyone or go against the power structures of men. How religious man hates the unpredictable and the unmanageable! Didn't Jesus say that those who move in the Spirit are like the wind? Now that is unpredictable and unmanageable by mere men.
We do believe that God is restoring the functional prophet back to His Church! On the other hand, the official pre-approved prophets who gather around the ecclesiarchs who rule over the Church are like so many soothsayers sitting in a king's court waiting to bring an affirming word to the status quo. May God restore to the earth those who, without concern for their own welfare, dare to call God's people to repentance and a right heart and speak to what is out of order in the Church today.
Yes, Father, restore this endangered species, the true prophet, back to the earth once again. Don't let the spirits of the Great False Prophet get the last word. Bring forth those who weep and mourn over the fallen state of your Church. Amen.
 
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A prophet marches to a different drum. A true prophet is not concerned with his image, nor how well he is received. It is God who holds people accountable for receiving the messenger and the message. The prophet's single focus is on speaking and writing the message that God has given him to deliver.​
Thank you Jezreel, that is something I needed to be reminded of.
 
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There real just keep your eyes open for if they speak for God or of themselves or of the devil. Take heed to what the real ones are saying. They are warning us to be ready. Just like in the old days.
 

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There real just keep your eyes open for if they speak for God or of themselves or of the devil. Take heed to what the real ones are saying. They are warning us to be ready. Just like in the old days.
Can you give me an example of a real prophet today?
 
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Aliciaforjesus

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Good post,
I agree with what you said.

It's not about people pleasing, it's all about God and those who love are of God.

A prophet is madly in love with God and God is madly in love with them.
A prophet doesn't usually have to say they are a prophet,
nor do they really want to be known as a prophet.

Elijah did not tell the widow woman that he was a prophet, she pick up on in it by what he said and did.

A prophet doesn't advertise being a prophet unless of course, it's about making a name or money!



 
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Can you give me an example of a real prophet today?

Ac 2:17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
 
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All Christians are prophets because their identity is the prophet Christ.
 
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Jezreel

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Now listen little miss Flying Nun,that is not true!
 
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If you are any sort of prophet, you're a false one.
Sort of like how you're a non-Jewish person who slaps a star of david on their avatar and calls himself a "true Jew" ? ;)
 
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Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John."

According to what Jesus had to say, there are no more prophets. This is because what a prophet did in the OT was do the work of God as directed, or tell of future events that God relayed on to them.

What we have going on today is people following what has already been established. There is no new establishment of anything that is going to happen. Therefore, what Jesus said stands, there are no more prophets.

Considering what Thaddaeus said, it is a repeat of what Joel said. Prophecy now is not Prophecy of then. We only repeat what we have been taught and that is about it. We share out prophecy knowledge with others. Peter and the others were sharing their knowledge.

Though there is prophecy, but there are no more prophets. Big difference. Prophecy is the ability to make something happen. All the prophecies of God are done and already set in place. That is why there are no more prophets, even though some television personalities claim they are "modern day prophets," which they are not. Blind is as blind does.
 
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Jezreel

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I have never ever claimed myself to be a prophet. SATAN IS THE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERAN. What you are doing right now is operating in the spirit of Jezebel. Jezebel is a bully and intimidates. You need to have a holy spanking on your rear ends from God!
 
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Now listen little miss Flying Nun,that is not true!
Explain? The Spirit of Christ is the spirit of prophecy. When God pours out His Spirit his sons and daughers prophesy. Christians are not only sons of God through Jesus Christ but also prophets, as they bear the testimony of the prophet Jesus Christ.
 
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Christians known as 'prophets' today are not prophets in the old testament sense, they are nothing more than Christians who happen to utilise the gift of prophecy and used by God in that area.
 
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Jezreel

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I would never want the responsibility of being a prophet You need to attack the word of God because you are a bunch of "SILLY WOMEN". I cannot hardly believe that you are so silly and into most probably fornication that has affected your minds. If your mind was pure, you would not attack the work of God.
You can have the gift of prophesy but that DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE A PROPHET. Can any of you silly women read?
 
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Jezreel,
in the old testament, prophets had the Spirit of God. All Christians have the Spirit of God, and therefore all Christians may be prophets. In fact, Jesus said in Matt 11:11 that the least in the kingdom of heaven (aka Christians) are greater than any prophet. This isn't rocket science. You need to get out of the old testament wineskins and into the new!
 
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The fact that you can not name one true prophet today and the ones who are known as prophets build their ministries giving mostly false testimonies and ear tickling words, is testimony to the fact that old testament prophets were replaced by Christians who prophesy in the gift of the Spirit.
 
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A prophet marches to a different drum. A true prophet is not concerned with his image, nor how well he is received. It is God who holds people accountable for receiving the messenger and the message. The prophet's single focus is on speaking and writing the message that God has given him to deliver
Far from this putting prophets on a pedestal description you give, as if prophets are some sort of super human.. prophets are ordinary people like you and me who happen to function in the gift of prophesy. Look at the prophet Jonah, he was concerned with his image, and how well he was received, but he still did it eventually. So your statement that a true prophet is not concerned with image or somehow perfect or a certain type of personality or zeal, is not true.
 
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Far from this putting prophets on a pedestal description you give, as if prophets are some sort of super human.. prophets are ordinary people like you and me who happen to function in the gift of prophesy. Look at the prophet Jonah, he was concerned with his image, and how well he was received, but he still did it eventually. So your statement that a true prophet is not concerned with image or somehow perfect or a certain type of personality or zeal, is not true.
Well if we are to speak the truth of God's word we have to lay down our pride, and stop caring what others speak about us, whether we are prophet, evangelist or any other believer in Christ
 
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Well if we are to speak the truth of God's word we have to lay down our pride, and stop caring what others speak about us, whether we are prophet, evangelist or any other believer in Christ
that is true but I was addressing the implicitation that to be used by God and be a "true prophet" you have to be perfect. You've gotta go through trials, you've gotta be humble, you've gotta be sincere, you've gotta be this and be that and do this and do that if you want to be a TRUE prophet.... well no,..I disagree completely.... the vessel isn't that important, God can use a donkey.
It is as if prophets are put on a pedestal by the five-fold pentecostal movements as being some kind of super-Christian and takes a long time to become one of these special kind of people, which goes against the gospel about a sinner saved by and always in need of God's grace.

God can even use non-Christians to prophesy!
 
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