George Bush - Gog and Magog - War on Terror - Iraq War

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Houly

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I ran a search, didn't see this posted here yet. This was in 2003, when George Bush was trying to gain international support for the Iraq War.




http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/books/review/500-days-by-kurt-eichenwald.html?_r=0


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After Bush told Jacques Chirac that biblical prophecies were being fulfilled and specifically that “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East,” the French president decided, in Eichenwald’s words, that “France was not going to fight a war based on an American president’s interpretation of the Bible.”


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Agog over Bush's comments on Gog and Magog | cleveland.com


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Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him: "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. . . . The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. . . . This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."


The puzzled French leader didn't comply with Bush's request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal. Romer explained that the Old Testament book of Ezekiel contains two chapters (38 and 39) in which God rages against Gog and Magog, sinister and mysterious forces menacing Israel. Jehovah vows to smite them savagely, to "turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws," and slaughter them ruthlessly. In the New Testament, the mystical book of Revelation (20:8) envisions Gog and Magog gathering nations for battle, "and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."


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There was talk that George Bush was the anti-Christ during his reign because he did so many evil acts, but then logic was applied. He couldn't be the Anti-Christ because him and his party were so blatantly evil. The Anti-Christ is supposed to be liked and fooling people.

I couldn't argue with that logic.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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this is one of those things that isn't actually on the record and depends solely on secondhand hearsay...
 
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Houly

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this is one of those things that isn't actually on the record and depends solely on secondhand hearsay...
Well there's not a video recording of George Bush saying it, but it's pretty well-sourced. It was in Kurt Eichenwald's 500 Days: Secrets and Lies in the Terror Wars, and it was confirmed by University of Lausanne theology professor Thomas R mer (the one contacted by Chirac's advisors). A book by French journalist Jean Claude Maurice includes confirmation from Chirac.
 

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the folks at the Temple Mount Faithful Movement addressed GW Bush as "Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!"

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28 Tevet, 5768 / January 6, 2008

In the Name of the Lord, Eternal God

To The Honorable Mr. George W. Bush,
President of the United States of America,

Who comes seeking the presence of the Most High God, to Jerusalem, city of God, Divinely chosen site of the Holy Temple, eternal capital of our land, "the joy of the entire earth (Psalms 48:3)," may it be rebuilt and established speedily and in our days, Amen!

Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!

Upon your arrival in Jerusalem you have the ability to make a declaration, as did Cyrus, King of Persia - whose memory is honored - who in the year 538 BCE returned the exiled nations to their lands and recognized the full right of the Jewish people to reestablish their Holy Temple, the "house of prayer for all nations" (Isaiah 56:7), and called upon them to return to their land,

And in the manner of Lord James Balfour of England, who in 1917, called upon the Jews to reestablish a national homeland in the Land of Israel.

And thus if you truly desire peace and benevolence, and you would be counted in the company of the truly righteous, we call upon you to declare to all the world:

The Land of Israel was bequeathed to the nation of Israel by the Creator of the world. Neither could I, as a son of my faith, nor the Muslims according to their faith, ever take away even the slightest grain from the Eternal's gift, which He gave to His people Israel, the eternal people. Thus I call upon all the nations to save themselves from certain doom, to return and recognize That this land is the exclusive rightful inheritance of the people of Israel, as is written in the Torah of Israel, which constitutes the very foundation of our faith, as well as that of Islam; and is the basis for the decisions of the community of nations. He who denies this truth endangers all life on earth.

I shall dedicate all my strength and resources towards settling the Jewish people throughout their entire land. I shall greatly encourage and empower the Jews all over the world to rise up to the Land of Israel and to settle it, to establish God's sanctuary in Jerusalem, to distance strangers from it and thus, I believe, I will be making a major contribution towards world peace.

I cannot simultaneously support the establishment of a foreign state for an alien nation in the Land of Israel, and I will not lend my hand to this wrong.

Or - Heaven forbid - you can choose the second option - to willfully aid in the destruction, under the guise of peace!

You certainly know what the God of Israel did to Egypt and Assyria and to all Israel's enemies from time immemorial: Do you imagine that you will be able to save yourself if you have come to implement a plan that intends to steal the land of "the people that survived the sword" (Jeremiah 31:1), and to cut off those who survived the Holocaust, to rob the land that was given to them by the Creator?

All of the peace treaties and initiatives which have been based upon the decisions of the government of Israel, indeed the entire Oslo process, and the 'Disengagement,' and the establishment of a terrorist state within the Land of Israel known as 'Palestine' - regrettably, all of these agreements are the result of a lack of sufficient faith in the Divine promises that the Lord made to the patriarchs of our nation, and all that is written in the Torah of Israel. Understand this well: the nations of the world cannot excuse their actions and their decisions on account of the weakness of Israel and her government. God ordained that the role of the nations of the world is to strengthen the nation of Israel. This will benefit all humanity and bring about world peace, as the prophets have foretold.

Do you imagine you can escape from the struggles in Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon, by offering up sacrifices of the Jews who are slaughtered daily by their enemies who speak of peace but live by the sword?

Upon your arrival in our land we would anticipate that you bring Jonathan Pollard home with you. Bring him home to Israel. He is an emissary of the State of Israel, and he acted on behalf of our people. Authorize his immediate release while you are yet in Jerusalem, before you return to the United States. This will be a positive step that will build confidence.

Remember our forefather Abraham, who pursued the world's four greatest kings in order to redeem his nephew from captivity. We cannot forget the deeds of our patriarchs, whose example guides us through every generation.

We are the loyal representatives of the Jewish people, the New Jewish Congress, and its court of law, the Sanhedrin, as well as the Temple and Temple Mount movements, but we merely reiterate herein what is public knowledge.

No government in Israel and no representative of the Jewish people has the power or right to alter, by even the slightest degree, our covenant with God and the words of our holy Torah, which are everlasting, as expressed by the prophets of Israel and even by the wicked prophet Balaam: "Then he looked on Amalek, and uttered his oracle, saying: 'First among the nations was Amalek, but its end is to perish for ever' (Numbers 24:20). Thus any desire, plan or agreement that challenges the eternal sovereignty and active possession of the nation of Israel over her entire land is utterly worthless, and has no basis in reality.

Therefore it behooves you to declare: "I, George Bush, Commander in Chief of the armies of the United States of America, will instruct all of my troops to protect the Divine rights of the nation of Israel, and remove from her any threat."

Before you is a choice: You can merit to eternal life, or be inscribed for eternal disgrace. Your fate and that of all those with you hangs in the balance of the destiny of our land.

"and you shall choose life!" (Deut. 30:19).

In Sincere Supplication - In the name of the Jewish people

Rabbi A Even Yisrael Steinzaltz
The Sanhedrin

Dr. Gadi Eshel
The New Jewish Congress

Rabbi Chaim Richman
The Holy Temple and Temple Mount Movements


The Temple Institute: Megillat Bush > click


so ya.
do with it what you will.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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the folks at the Temple Mount Faithful Movement addressed GW Bush as "Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!"
this is just an example of the rabbinic tendency to misidentify ancient biblical nations...
 

zone

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this is just an example of the rabbinic tendency to misidentify ancient biblical nations...
maybe.
they sure do like the drama.
and politicizing everything they can.
who makes a big production like that - threats and all:confused:

once again - chalk it up to the Fall i guess.

lol @ GW....he's prolly like....'uh...okay'?

mind you, Poppy liked the name Magog in his homosexual Yalies club.
*shrug*
 
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Reformedjason

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George w was a great president. He made mistakes , but he was human.
 
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Houly

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George w was a great president. He made mistakes , but he was human.
It's not a judgment of Bush's presidency. It's a discussion between two very powerful leaders that teaches us a little more about the motives for the wars we're in: "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. . . . The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. . . . This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."

When our president is making major decisions (sending us to war) influenced by what he sees as biblical prophecy currently being fulfilled, we should take notice.
 

zone

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George w was a great president. He made mistakes , but he was human.
GW (contrary to David Icke's theory:rolleyes:) is human.
he made mistakes.
he is also a war criminal and a traitor (to all of the common people)
 

zone

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off everybody goes into the nebulous War on Terror...(whatever THAT means).

how do you fight a war against a noun which means: : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion?
are you fighting the systemic use of terror?
how? by means of coercion?

LOL.

yet the Bushies are best buds and Bizniss partners with the Saudis - the UberRadicalIslam meanies.

how does that math work?

 
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eternally-gratefull

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George w was a great president. He made mistakes , but he was human.

Bet alot wish he was still in. We are headed towards bancrupsy. And things are not looking good at all..
 

zone

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LOL....one bird two wings.
a 2 party system is a one party system.

a puppet show.
the american course was set when america lost its sovereignty with The Federal Reserve Act of 1913
 

zone

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Dollar idolatry.

You might "enjoy" (agree with) this:
ya, except one part - which i won't go into here.

[video=youtube;3sCpsq55uic]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCpsq55uic[/video]

Professor Antony Sutton: Wall Street & the rise of Hitler 1

cont....
 

zone

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[video=youtube;PaFklTLNy8c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c[/video]

Wall Street Funded the Bolshevik Revolution - Professor Antony Sutton

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like....really.
all the world's a stage.
when you're the richest families on earth - ya fund both sides.
the reg'lar people don't know it.

one bird, two wings.
nuthin' new.

Re: George Bush - Gog and Magog - War on Terror - Iraq War

that's just the WW3 thing.

they need that before the world agrees to Global Governance..... and they still fund both sides - the good moral ppl of the west, and the terrorists.

the Clash of Civilizations.

and out of that choas?

welp....:rolleyes: