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So it seems when consulting the internet that there is pretty much an authenticity problem with every version out there except the KJV. Which I really don't want to try and read I mean I like Shakespeare and all but I don't want to consult a dictionary every time I read the bible because there are some words in there that are like a foreign language.

So what is the answer? Would anyone tell me what version you read and why?
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I posted this earlier on another thread but I think it would be appropriate to post it here as well...

1 Corinthians 2
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written:
“ Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

Regardless of your bible version do we live by the flesh or the Spirit?

Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

I would say to just care about if you have the Holy Spirit guiding you or not. The Holy Spirit will not guide you into any lies, Jesus says the opposite..

John 16:3 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

So as far as bible translations/versions go.. As long as you have the Holy Spirit guiding you ..Don't worry. He will lead you into the truth.

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I have a NKJV, because I remembered my grandma always had a KJV and for some reason it seemed important. If they would have been a KJV I think I would have got that instead, and if I reference another version its usually the KJV. I've seen some disturbing things about the NIV and NLT, although their are some problems with the NKJV, it's easier to read and I think closer to the KJV than most the others. To be honest their are some translation problems with the KJV as well. Something I found odd about alot of versions is that they are translated from a different copy than the KJV.
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So it seems when consulting the internet that there is pretty much an authenticity problem with every version out there except the KJV. Which I really don't want to try and read I mean I like Shakespeare and all but I don't want to consult a dictionary every time I read the bible because there are some words in there that are like a foreign language.

So what is the answer? Would anyone tell me what version you read and why?
The KJV contains thousands of errors unless you can read the original Greek or Hebrew from the concordances and lexicons and dictionaries, there is no way of learning where the errors are, most modern versions are based on the KJV and have either inherited the same errors or worse. This is the problem with a fractured and split Church, it's very difficult to get sound doctrine and very difficult to get the right interpretation.
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The KJV contains thousands of errors unless you can read the original Greek or Hebrew from the concordances and lexicons and dictionaries, there is no way of learning where the errors are, most modern versions are based on the KJV and have either inherited the same errors or worse. This is the problem with a fractured and split Church, it's very difficult to get sound doctrine and very difficult to get the right interpretation.

sir I am not your judge, but you will stand before God, one day and be judged for what you just said about His Holy Word.
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sir I am not your judge, but you will stand before God, one day and be judged for what you just said about His Holy Word.
Your English KJV translation is in error Thaddaeus, not me, God's word is true, the KJV is not, and I will stand before the Judge and testify to that.
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The KJB is the one you need to use, it has been put through the same reading test as the Niv and came out as a lower reading grade than the Niv , all the modern day bibles are not based on the KJB as cup has said but based on mostly an entire different manuscript than the KJB, all modern day bibles are slowly being watered down for the one world religion, even the lastest Niv Preversion was translationed without any gender, and these were even turned down and sent back even by some of the most liberal book stores. The Bible says if we seek wisdom to ask God and He will give unbraided, doesn't say to turn to an easier bible, so you will not get anything from either one unless You ask God to help in your study of His Word most of the hard words in the king james define themslves within a few verses or within the topic of said word ,example I just came across one tonight stopped to look it up and then started reading agian and just a few verses it defined the word I looked up,

Le 23:27Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy CONVOCATION unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.


CONVOCATION, n. [L.]

1. The act of calling or assembling by summons.
2. An assembly.
In the first day there shall be a holy convocation. Exodus 12.
3. In England, an assembly of the clergy, by their representatives, to consult on ecclesiastical affairs. It is held during the session of parliament, and consists of an upper and lower house. In the upper house sit the archbishops and bishops; in the lower house sit the inferior clergy, represented by their proctors, consisting of all the deans and arch-deacons, of one proctor for every chapter, and two for the clergy of every diocese, in all one hundred and forty-three divines, vix. Twenty-two deans, fifty-three arch-deacons, twenty-four prebendaries, and forty-four proctors of the diocesan clergy.
4. An academical assembly, in which the business of the university is transacted.

Le 23:36Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy CONVOCATION unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn ASSEMBLY; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
Convocation is an assembly

the main problem I have with the newer versions is that for almost 400 years now the KJb has been accepted as the authorized English translation of the Bible and in order to get Christians to lay down the true authorized version then they have to claim that there is something wrong with The authorized version, and in doing so, in order to get people to use the newer versions, they have to attack/blaspheme the Word of God. for example back in the 1600's 1700's 1800's many people were not educated as we are now,many dropped out of school and took care of farms and family my Mother-in-law has a third grade education and knows more about bible than most scholars do now and with all the talk about how much smarter are kids are than we were , they do trig in school now, but yet the word of God which was easily understood 1oo, 2oo, 3oo, 4oo, years ago is too hard for our kids today. this is not truth , it is A lie from the dark side to get us to stray from the true word of God. You would find it unbelievable that in this Christian Forum, how many don't believe that the Bible is inspired By God. the devil started out and decieved man kind by twisting the word of God He tried it again when He tempted Jesus and is trying it today through the modern day preversions of the Word of God, yep the good Ole KING JAMES BIBLE is the one for me.

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So it seems when consulting the internet that there is pretty much an authenticity problem with every version out there except the KJV. Which I really don't want to try and read I mean I like Shakespeare and all but I don't want to consult a dictionary every time I read the bible because there are some words in there that are like a foreign language.

So what is the answer? Would anyone tell me what version you read and why?
I personally use a bible translated from the eastern ancient text. called the p e s h i t t a. I also have NIV, KJV, and a few others. I like the version i use because it is written in a way that the reader can understand what is being said. here is an online resource i also use when i want to find certain passages or keywords when studying the word. www.blueletterbible.org You can look up several different bible versions on this site as well.


The point i would like to share with you is that you are not committed to using just one version use as many as you like and whichever one works for you then go with that one. It is great that you are seeking out the word and just keep in mind that studying the word of god will lead to many truths and will bring you even closer to god. Studying different versions is better than not studying at all.
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I have a number of translations, but I REALLY REALLY like the NLT.

NLT -New Living Translation. It's easy to read, and very accurate. The translators of this text have really been brave up to stand up and give real definitions and use words we understand.

An example of this is all the quibble people have over saying that 'homosexuality' isn't in the bible. The KJV uses the word 'effiminate' - which when actually translated doesn't even mean the same thing that the word 'homesexual' means. The NLT flat out use the word 'Homosexual'.. so it doesn't leave any room for grey areas.

It's extremly clear to understand. I love it. It is by far the best translation I have come across. Everything is so 'literal' (for want of a better word).
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Whenever im in doubt i always op for the bible with HUGE LETTERS .
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WELL I LIKE THE OLD BIBLES 15 20 YR OLDS BECAUSE OF THE STRONG LANGUAGE USED
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The modern Bible versions corrupt the SIMPLICITY that is in Christ. In fact, the NIV has some deadly errors(which the Catholic church takes advantage of). See this thread:

Danger in Modern Versions- The danger in modern versions of the Bible

The NKJV is also a deadly translation, see thread:

New King James Version Comparison Alert
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Thanks for all the feedback, I appreciate it!
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I actually just took my ESV bible to Swaziland and had King Mswati III sign it with his blood.

Because of this, the ESV is now the AUTHORISED VERSION.
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I actually just took my ESV bible to Swaziland and had King Mswati III sign it with his blood.

Because of this, the ESV is now the AUTHORISED VERSION.
LOL. Luke I think that is the funniest thing you have ever posted!!

Actually Luke and I are members of the 'Peoplewholoveaudiobibles' coalition of Australia.

True story!
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Yes Hethr, I would definitely recommend getting the bible on CD, I can't speak highly enough of it!
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KJV or MKJV is the best. You'll find that out the deeper you go in your walk with God.
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