forgiving

[letti]

I have to stop and wonder is forgiving e requirement of Christ?I thought it was when a person truly forgives you dont they let go of what you did to offend them.In the case that they become sarcastic about things you may have said that made them mad then they must have not truly honestly forgiven you at all.So in the case where this is another Christian what or how does one handle this?Do you avoid this person or what approach would be a GODLY one.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

Forgive them again and ask them to forgive you again.

 

[NiceneCreed]

I have to stop and wonder is forgiving e requirement of Christ?I thought it was when a person truly forgives you dont they let go of what you did to offend them.In the case that they become sarcastic about things you may have said that made them mad then they must have not truly honestly forgiven you at all.So in the case where this is another Christian what or how does one handle this?Do you avoid this person or what approach would be a GODLY one.

The 'Sermon on the Mount' and 'The Golden Rule' come to mind when pondering your post.

 

[NiceneCreed]

Forgive them again and ask them to forgive you again.

Great post!

 

[jonathanbchristian]

The 'Sermon on the Mount' and 'The Golden Rule' come to mind when pondering your post.

Yours too.

 

[nathan3]

I know its written we should forgive if we expect to be forgiven ; we should have that view of it.

And, I want bring attention to the fact that, we ask God , in Christ name for forgiveness because we wronged someone. We don't ask the person we wronged to forgive us ( because, they may Not ); It really dose not matter if they do or not. Who is able to erase the sin, is God.

( Although its good to make amends ) But after we tired, we are not obligated after that.


Say, some one wronged you, we should be apt to forgive that person, ( but its God they have to seek forgiveness from; Not us. ) weather they ask us or not. If they ask, then we should forgive them.

If they are not the kind of person you can get along with, its better to keep a healthy distance. I know people that treat me bad, but I don't hold a grudge, because thats not healthy. I forgive and move on.

That way, that shows something to God, about my character . And it allows you to have some peace, Knowing God is the one that forgives in Christ name.. There are so much scripture about forgiveness, its what Christianity is all about.

 

[Ariel82]

you forgive them and pray for them. because their unforgiveness will hurt them more than you.

I would avoid them if possible so as not to anger and offend them again. that way they won't be tempted to sin by becoming angry at you for no reason.

I would pray because they are trapped by their anger and until they learn what it really means to forgive someone, they will remain enslaved to that sin.

 

[secularhermit]

Wow! I wish I could post my chat with someone, last night...

This could be UNITERAL or both could talk on the issue that needs or demands forgiving. Last night I heard I was forgiven, without my asking and knowledge. With that, I heard what was the problem who affected her (and me).
Forgiving is HEALING. It´s deepeer than I thought it could be.

 

[RedTent]

If we take it on ourselves to not forgive, we are taking on God's work. God is our judge, we are not to judge each other.

Heb_10:30 For we know the One who has said, Vengeance belongs to Me, I will repay, and again, The Lord will judge His people.

In Matthew it tells us what to do when someone treats you mean. After you do everything you can to handle it, it is best to just ignore them.
Mat 18:15 "If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he won't listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
Mat 18:17 f he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn't pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.

 

[letti]

I try to keep in mind grudges which start from any persons unwillingness to forgive another person are very damaging.They leave that person in mental bondage,or at least that is how I see it.Resentment is no good.I try to remember I am guilty of this also ,its what we have to do to love is to forgive,if we profess Christ and do not forgive we arent living our life for Christ the way we are supposed to.

 

[letti]

Sometimes its just hard to know what to do when somebody holds so much resentment towards you.If all else fails I guess prayer would be my next step.

 

[crossnote]

We forgive because we have already been forgiven...and truly believe it.
It is hard yea, not our responsibility, to regulate how another's 'forgiveness' to us falls short of God's forgiveness for us.

 

[12tribes1King]

So in the case where this is another Christian what or how does one handle this?Do you avoid this person or what approach would be a GODLY one.

Matthew 18:
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

 

[crossnote]

Luke 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

One could also say ' he who sees himself not yet forgiven, will forgive little.

 

[homwardbound]

I have to stop and wonder is forgiving e requirement of Christ?I thought it was when a person truly forgives you dont they let go of what you did to offend them.In the case that they become sarcastic about things you may have said that made them mad then they must have not truly honestly forgiven you at all.So in the case where this is another Christian what or how does one handle this?Do you avoid this person or what approach would be a GODLY one.

Depends on what side of the cross one is on.
Before the cross it is required to forgive in order to be forgiven by God
After the cross where we are all forgiven by God before we can even forgive anyone, we forgive because we are forgiven.

It matters not if the other person forgives or not. If you are the person that seeks forgiveness from another person you have harmed, and they do not forgive you. Who's head is this on? You truthfully, sincerely desire to be forgiven by the other, so you asked, whether you are forgiven by them or not is not up to you, Yet you thus are now free.

Do you see the before the cross and after.
Forgive to be forgiven is before
Forgive because you are forgiven in response to God

 

[homwardbound]

I know its written we should forgive if we expect to be forgiven ; we should have that view of it.

And, I want bring attention to the fact that, we ask God , in Christ name for forgiveness because we wronged someone. We don't ask the person we wronged to forgive us ( because, they may Not ); It really dose not matter if they do or not. Who is able to erase the sin, is God.

( Although its good to make amends ) But after we tired, we are not obligated after that.


Say, some one wronged you, we should be apt to forgive that person, ( but its God they have to seek forgiveness from; Not us. ) weather they ask us or not. If they ask, then we should forgive them.

If they are not the kind of person you can get along with, its better to keep a healthy distance. I know people that treat me bad, but I don't hold a grudge, because thats not healthy. I forgive and move on.

That way, that shows something to God, about my character . And it allows you to have some peace, Knowing God is the one that forgives in Christ name.. There are so much scripture about forgiveness, its what Christianity is all about.

Plain and simply why not forgive because you are forgiven? Did God through Christ; before we here were ever born here on earth die for the sins of the whole world, John 1:29 nailed them all to the cross, in order to give us new life in seeing things from God's perspective.

So does it not make sense after the cross, that since we are forgiven by God while we all were yet sinners to forgive in response in thanking God

 

[homwardbound]

Wow! I wish I could post my chat with someone, last night...

This could be UNITERAL or both could talk on the issue that needs or demands forgiving. Last night I heard I was forgiven, without my asking and knowledge. With that, I heard what was the problem who affected her (and me).
Forgiving is HEALING. It´s deepeer than I thought it could be.

All here today on this earth are forgiven by God through Christ. This is a done issue completed at the cross, proven in the resurrection, and life after death comes to us in the renewing of our minds to thanking God for this, undeserving grace through Son

 

[homwardbound]

If we take it on ourselves to not forgive, we are taking on God's work. God is our judge, we are not to judge each other.

Heb_10:30 For we know the One who has said, Vengeance belongs to Me, I will repay, and again, The Lord will judge His people.

In Matthew it tells us what to do when someone treats you mean. After you do everything you can to handle it, it is best to just ignore them.
Mat 18:15 "If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he won't listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
Mat 18:17 f he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn't pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.

Just take a look at what Christ suffered without any railing accusations, and went to the cross, for us all. How can I not forgive, how can I not love back, with what Christ did? If a Brother is offended or I have offended, it is only right to try to restore it, but if it can't be restored, I see to just let it go.

I remember when my Brother had been offended by me, and he did not even know this that it was me.
God poured on me to go to him and tell him that it was me. I did with no expectation of being forgiven, and after confessing, he looked at me and said to me that he forgave me, and then said as he saw, even if I did not forgive you, I (brother) see you are set free form this guilt.
And I am not sure if anyone really has a clue, but YES set free WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amazing when one is sincere
No skeletons in one's closet is the greatest. But people have them and are not free, until they face the truth and are ready for whatever punishment is to be placed on them, in acceptance to it, no squirming out of it.

 

[homwardbound]

I try to keep in mind grudges which start from any persons unwillingness to forgive another person are very damaging.They leave that person in mental bondage,or at least that is how I see it.Resentment is no good.I try to remember I am guilty of this also ,its what we have to do to love is to forgive,if we profess Christ and do not forgive we arent living our life for Christ the way we are supposed to.

You know there is a difference in suppose to, and responding to.
1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
So are we going to respond to God for this or create our own self-righteousness in suppose to do this or that?
What is better to do? Forgive because you are forgiven? Or forgive to get forgiven?

 

[homwardbound]

Sometimes its just hard to know what to do when somebody holds so much resentment towards you.If all else fails I guess prayer would be my next step.

If you have asked for forgiveness from another and they do not forgive you is this on you or them?